Originally posted by: munky
Why can't you nerds see the forest from the trees? I glanced over the documents you linked, and see nothing but assumptions and guesses, with a bunch of technical-looking drawings and numbers thrown around based on those assumptions. How that would "prove" anything to anyone with a grain of intelligence is beyond me.
Well what happened obviously agrees with the laws of physics, but the official explanation doesn't. Even if the top section of the structure could exert the force to crush the bottom, that crushing bottom would reflect the tilt of the top, rather than being parallel to the ground.Originally posted by: LunarRay
I've watched it a bunch more times but I can't tell if it continues to fall off to the side or just bent over there and falling at that angle downward but I guess it doesn't move back to the right or do so too much. It don't look like it is crushing or being crushed so guess it is in free fall at that point. I'll stand corrected, It don't defy physics.
I did confuse you an ElFenix, as you both make much the same absurd arguments to ignore the facts I presented in my OP. Also, I don't ignore any of the posts here, I read them, I just don't bother to respond to the most nonsensical ones.Originally posted by: Cogman
HA HA HA. That was never my advice, and you've completely ignored my earlier post.
Claiming otherwise is ridiculous, particularly in the case of WTC7, as I explained in the OP.Originally posted by: Vic
OTOH, claiming those forces could had not brought down those buildings, and that additional forces MUST have been required, is simply ridiculous.
What has you speculating against my intellect but respecting Steven Jones and miniMUNCH? Regardless, here is Steven Jones addressing the facts I presented in the OP, I hope you will listen to what he is saying and then reconsider my OP after doing so.Originally posted by: Venix
You and the OP may be complete fucking morons, but I will freely admit that there are intelligent people who disagree with the official version of September 11 events; Steven Jones certainly isn't stupid, and even just in this thread, miniMUNCH seems like a bright guy.
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: munky
Why can't you nerds see the forest from the trees? I glanced over the documents you linked, and see nothing but assumptions and guesses, with a bunch of technical-looking drawings and numbers thrown around based on those assumptions. How that would "prove" anything to anyone with a grain of intelligence is beyond me.
You're so smart you can disprove a world renowned scientist's papers with only a quick glance.
Wow , typical twuther.
You sir are an imbecile like the rest of the twuther movement.
Originally posted by: Venix
Originally posted by: munky
Why can't you nerds see the forest from the trees? I glanced over the documents you linked, and see nothing but assumptions and guesses, with a bunch of technical-looking drawings and numbers thrown around based on those assumptions. How that would "prove" anything to anyone with a grain of intelligence is beyond me.
Still not an answer. I want to know, specifically, which portions of Ba?ant's research are incorrect.
I really just don't understand why you feel compelled to defame one of the world's most respected engineering researchers--and without even bothering to read his papers, at that. You and the OP may be complete fucking morons, but I will freely admit that there are intelligent people who disagree with the official version of September 11 events; Steven Jones certainly isn't stupid, and even just in this thread, miniMUNCH seems like a bright guy. Why can't you extend the same courtesy to the 99%+ of engineers and scientists who support the official explanation?
Originally posted by: munky
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: munky
Why can't you nerds see the forest from the trees? I glanced over the documents you linked, and see nothing but assumptions and guesses, with a bunch of technical-looking drawings and numbers thrown around based on those assumptions. How that would "prove" anything to anyone with a grain of intelligence is beyond me.
You're so smart you can disprove a world renowned scientist's papers with only a quick glance.
Wow , typical twuther.
You sir are an imbecile like the rest of the twuther movement.
No, you're the imbecile for thinking a scientist with some math is gonna solve this when he wasn't even involved in the incident at all, instead of analyzing what Bush and his gang of criminals said, when and how they said it, and what they did as a result.
Originally posted by: Number1
Seriously, there are NO mainstream media who are even willing to entertain the concepts those twuthers like to propagate.
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: munky
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: munky
Why can't you nerds see the forest from the trees? I glanced over the documents you linked, and see nothing but assumptions and guesses, with a bunch of technical-looking drawings and numbers thrown around based on those assumptions. How that would "prove" anything to anyone with a grain of intelligence is beyond me.
You're so smart you can disprove a world renowned scientist's papers with only a quick glance.
Wow , typical twuther.
You sir are an imbecile like the rest of the twuther movement.
No, you're the imbecile for thinking a scientist with some math is gonna solve this when he wasn't even involved in the incident at all, instead of analyzing what Bush and his gang of criminals said, when and how they said it, and what they did as a result.
Typical paranoid view of the world and now obviously Obama is in on the plot and is covering up for Bush and Cheney. You demented one you.
LOL
Originally posted by: munky
Originally posted by: Venix
Originally posted by: munky
Why can't you nerds see the forest from the trees? I glanced over the documents you linked, and see nothing but assumptions and guesses, with a bunch of technical-looking drawings and numbers thrown around based on those assumptions. How that would "prove" anything to anyone with a grain of intelligence is beyond me.
Still not an answer. I want to know, specifically, which portions of Ba?ant's research are incorrect.
I really just don't understand why you feel compelled to defame one of the world's most respected engineering researchers--and without even bothering to read his papers, at that. You and the OP may be complete fucking morons, but I will freely admit that there are intelligent people who disagree with the official version of September 11 events; Steven Jones certainly isn't stupid, and even just in this thread, miniMUNCH seems like a bright guy. Why can't you extend the same courtesy to the 99%+ of engineers and scientists who support the official explanation?
One sec... my crystal ball tells me in about 30 years you and you fellow gullible retards will see a bunch of declassified documents which will answer all your questions of how the buildings fell. In the mean time, don't waste my time diverting the issue into an engineering problem.
And don't forget the BBC!Originally posted by: munky
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: munky
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: munky
Why can't you nerds see the forest from the trees? I glanced over the documents you linked, and see nothing but assumptions and guesses, with a bunch of technical-looking drawings and numbers thrown around based on those assumptions. How that would "prove" anything to anyone with a grain of intelligence is beyond me.
You're so smart you can disprove a world renowned scientist's papers with only a quick glance.
Wow , typical twuther.
You sir are an imbecile like the rest of the twuther movement.
No, you're the imbecile for thinking a scientist with some math is gonna solve this when he wasn't even involved in the incident at all, instead of analyzing what Bush and his gang of criminals said, when and how they said it, and what they did as a result.
Typical paranoid view of the world and now obviously Obama is in on the plot and is covering up for Bush and Cheney. You demented one you.
LOL
Maybe you should read all the times in history the govt lied before, and take your head out of the sand. If they lied before, they can do it again.
Originally posted by: munky
Originally posted by: Number1
Seriously, there are NO mainstream media who are even willing to entertain the concepts those twuthers like to propagate.
Funny you should say that, because that's EXACTLY what the criminals behind this incident want. Unfortunately, you fail to realize that the mainstream media is just a group or puppets who tell you what they're paid to say.
Of course they won't they are too busy hiding the facts to entertain falsers like you. For example sake, Steven Jones discussing the media blackout on footage of WTC7. Of course they couldn't show that and expect anyone with a reasonable grasp of physics and a clear head to continue considering the official story credible, as I explained in my OP.Originally posted by: Number1
Seriously, there are NO mainstream media who are even willing to entertain the concepts those twuthers like to propagate.
Just curious - outside of twoothers, who *ISN'T* involved in the conspiracy? Here's my list of who *IS* in the conspiracy:Originally posted by: kylebisme
Of course they won't they are too busy hiding the facts to entertain falsers like you. For example sake, Steven Jones discussing the media blackout on footage of WTC7. Of course they couldn't show that and expect anyone with a reasonable grasp of physics and a clear head to continue considering the official story credible, as I explained in my OP.Originally posted by: Number1
Seriously, there are NO mainstream media who are even willing to entertain the concepts those twuthers like to propagate.
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: munky
Originally posted by: Venix
Originally posted by: munky
Why can't you nerds see the forest from the trees? I glanced over the documents you linked, and see nothing but assumptions and guesses, with a bunch of technical-looking drawings and numbers thrown around based on those assumptions. How that would "prove" anything to anyone with a grain of intelligence is beyond me.
Still not an answer. I want to know, specifically, which portions of Ba?ant's research are incorrect.
I really just don't understand why you feel compelled to defame one of the world's most respected engineering researchers--and without even bothering to read his papers, at that. You and the OP may be complete fucking morons, but I will freely admit that there are intelligent people who disagree with the official version of September 11 events; Steven Jones certainly isn't stupid, and even just in this thread, miniMUNCH seems like a bright guy. Why can't you extend the same courtesy to the 99%+ of engineers and scientists who support the official explanation?
One sec... my crystal ball tells me in about 30 years you and you fellow gullible retards will see a bunch of declassified documents which will answer all your questions of how the buildings fell. In the mean time, don't waste my time diverting the issue into an engineering problem.
Details don't mater now. Just believe in the conspiracy and be happy you say. F you buddy, there are no conspiracies, just a bunch of retards who like to distort the truth for their own purpose.
Originally posted by: kylebisme
Of course they won't they are too busy hiding the facts to entertain falsers like you. For example sake, Steven Jones discussing the media blackout on footage of WTC7. Of course they couldn't show that and expect anyone with a reasonable grasp of physics and a clear head to continue considering the official story credible, as I explained in my OP.Originally posted by: Number1
Seriously, there are NO mainstream media who are even willing to entertain the concepts those twuthers like to propagate.
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: LunarRay
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: LunarRay
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
So has there been 1 person thats been swayed by this thread?
Well... If I can go out on a limb and not fall up, I'd say I'm more informed than before the thread. I'm swayed away from thinking that bad guys maybe started fires on WTC 7 11-13 to destroy evidence if that counts.
In my case, when there are two sides and one side brings up an issue that makes sense I keep falling back to the planes the terrorists flew and the people on board and the how do you get the 'cutting' product to the right sites with out being detected... I estimate some 500 or so separate beam locations per building... not easy to do.
Don`t be a retard LunarRay!!
In fact don`t be an out and out liar!!
Before this threead was started you were already on Kylebisme`s side!!
This thread didn`t sway your opinion one bit!!
In fact this thread has not swayed anybodys opinion!!
All this thread has done is give quite a few people a lot of laughts and the OP!!
IF you say so it must be so! I do want to thank you for the chuckle you brought to me... Being so sure of a BELIEF entitles you to be enshrined with the pope when you finally find peace.
EDIT: Upon reflection I don't know how what you stated relates to what I wrote. Seems inconsistent to me. So, I unfortunately will renege on supporting your enshrinement.
I know, btw, that when I finally find peace and have earned my being enshrined I expect all the popes to jump up and sing praises...
So I was right.....of course I already knew I was right!
The question that Fear No Evil asked....
So has there been 1 person thats been swayed by this thread?
Does not pertain at all to you...because you were already sleeping in bed with Kylebisme!!
Muahaha.......there goes yopur credibility..oopps..you never had any!!
What a titanically presumptuous imbecile you are. And what a low class individual. What happened to you, did LR out think you in some thread and bruise you sad little ego? Did it appear that he made you look like the stupid fool that can hardly conceal whenever you post.
I happen to know that your words above are total complete and utter horse shit, you filthy little scum bag. I have talked extensively on every manner of subject for a good 5 years with LR on pretty much a daily basis and not ever, since before this thread began did we ever speak of the towers or a conspiracy to my memory or for that matter kyle. I hadn't till this thread even taken note that he existed. Shove your fucking conspiracy theories about LunarRay up your ass, you miserable little piece of shit. I fucking know he changed his mind because we have also talked during this thread. You back stabbing little fuck, you are the one with no credibility. You talk filth because you are.
Originally posted by: alchemize
Just curious - outside of twoothers, who *ISN'T* involved in the conspiracy? Here's my list of who *IS* in the conspiracy:Originally posted by: kylebisme
Of course they won't they are too busy hiding the facts to entertain falsers like you. For example sake, Steven Jones discussing the media blackout on footage of WTC7. Of course they couldn't show that and expect anyone with a reasonable grasp of physics and a clear head to continue considering the official story credible, as I explained in my OP.Originally posted by: Number1
Seriously, there are NO mainstream media who are even willing to entertain the concepts those twuthers like to propagate.
- Mainstream media (including international media such as BBC)
- Israel and all jews
- All demolition contractors
- 99.9% of engineers
- Insurance companies
- The airline industry, including all pilots, flight attendants, baggage handlers, etc.
- Airport security
- Chemical companies (Thermite/demolition charge supply companies)
- All the "victims" that were spirited to the island on "Lost"
- All the victims families (except for a few nutbars)
- Every function of the US government, including and state and local, spanning multiple administrations (including the current one)
- The entire US military, and many foreign militaries
- Every other government in the world that has a decent intelligence function
Who'd I miss?
I see no reason to suspect the vast majority of your falsers have any actual involvement in the scheme, and consider it far more likely that most are just duped into defending it. For instance, I'd bet Tucker Carlson would have happily accepted Steven Jones's request to show WTC7 if it were up to him, as even if he was in on the scheme I highly doubt he has the grasp of physics to understand the fact that the official story of WTC7's collapse contradicts physical reality.Originally posted by: alchemize
Just curious - outside of twoothers, who *ISN'T* involved in the conspiracy?Originally posted by: kylebisme
Of course they won't they are too busy hiding the facts to entertain falsers like you. For example sake, Steven Jones discussing the media blackout on footage of WTC7. Of course they couldn't show that and expect anyone with a reasonable grasp of physics and a clear head to continue considering the official story credible, as I explained in my OP.
Your list is so full of logical fallacies that it isn't even worth quoting, let alone responding to.Originally posted by: alchemize
Here's my list of who *IS* in the conspiracy:
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There you go, indicting the entire government as usual. A faction, a small faction.Originally posted by: munky
Your first mistake is assuming that the govt..
Originally posted by: kylebisme
There you go, indicting the entire government as usual. A faction, a small faction.Originally posted by: munky
Your first mistake is assuming that the govt..
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Love makes the world go around!! We love you Moonie!!!
As you are apparently incapable of responding to me without strawmanning, I ask that you please just not respond at all.Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: kylebisme
There you go, indicting the entire government as usual. A faction, a small faction.Originally posted by: munky
Your first mistake is assuming that the govt..
Oh yah more conspirators to add to the list:
John Shiban, Frank Spotnitz, Vince Gilligan and Chris Carter
Broadcast on? FOX, a subsidiary of Newsgroup! Muwahahahaha, Rupert Murdock was in it too!