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TravisT

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Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: TravisT
Many methodist churches have been said to be quite accepting to homosexuality. Thank goodness I am not associated with a denomination like that..

Indeed; it's hard to imagine how one could be saved if they stopped hating.

*yawn*, i never said I hated anyone. You might assume that, but the bible explicitly says that homosexuality is wrong. I don't believe you can follow christianity and support that way of living. It is like the Church making murders and theives their pastors... it wouldn't be right, never will be right.
 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: TravisT
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: TravisT
Many methodist churches have been said to be quite accepting to homosexuality. Thank goodness I am not associated with a denomination like that..

Indeed; it's hard to imagine how one could be saved if they stopped hating.

*yawn*, i never said I hated anyone. You might assume that, but the bible explicitly says that homosexuality is wrong. I don't believe you can follow christianity and support that way of living. It is like the Church making murders and theives their pastors... it wouldn't be right, never will be right.

Yup, interestingly it uses the same word to mean 'sodomite' in reference to men and 'prostitute' in reference to women. Methinks then that either male prostitutes or lesbians must be off the hook entirely.

I'll leave that one up to you.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: TravisT
Many methodist churches have been said to be quite accepting to homosexuality. Thank goodness I am not associated with a denomination like that..
Hey Trav! Nice you see you came out from under your rock to spread the good word like you always do.

 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: TravisT
Many methodist churches have been said to be quite accepting to homosexuality. Thank goodness I am not associated with a denomination like that..
Hey Trav! Nice you see you came out from under your rock to spread the good word like you always do.

Yeah, I missed him. He really makes all the other religious nuts look much smarter.
 

preslove

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Originally posted by: TravisT
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: TravisT
Many methodist churches have been said to be quite accepting to homosexuality. Thank goodness I am not associated with a denomination like that..

Indeed; it's hard to imagine how one could be saved if they stopped hating.

*yawn*, i never said I hated anyone. You might assume that, but the bible explicitly says that homosexuality is wrong. I don't believe you can follow christianity and support that way of living. It is like the Church making murders and theives their pastors... it wouldn't be right, never will be right.

Actually, mr. hypocritical bigot, the bible says nothing about lesbians, just men. My Aunt served in the army, had a long term relationship with a very nice woman (post-service), adopted three nice young kids, and was a very active member in an open and loving methodist church.

Asshole.
 

whattaguy

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Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: TravisT
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: TravisT
Many methodist churches have been said to be quite accepting to homosexuality. Thank goodness I am not associated with a denomination like that..

Indeed; it's hard to imagine how one could be saved if they stopped hating.

*yawn*, i never said I hated anyone. You might assume that, but the bible explicitly says that homosexuality is wrong. I don't believe you can follow christianity and support that way of living. It is like the Church making murders and theives their pastors... it wouldn't be right, never will be right.

Actually, mr. hypocritical bigot, the bible says nothing about lesbians, just men. My Aunt served in the army, had a long term relationship with a very nice woman (post-service), adopted three nice young kids, and was a very active member in an open and loving methodist church.

Asshole.

"Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion." --Romans 1:26-27

There is a mention of "unnatural" relations with women. Paul, in the use of "men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another" can be logically connected with the women.
I believe that homosexuality is wrong according to the Scriptures, but it is wrong as any other sin. But anyone with a deep sincere heart of repentance and the acknowlegdment of their sins leading into a change of heart and actions, is forgiven. I would have no problem with a person like that serving in a church, just like most churches. But if the person knows of their sinful state, and refuses to take actions for their sins...any sin and not just homosexuality...through repentance, I would still embrace them, but also know that serving and taking a leadership role would not be the best place for them.
 

DougK62

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WTF - how did this nice and simple question turn into this crap?

The anti-queer religious folk are the biggest hypocrites in the world. If I started a religion that barred colored people from joining I'd be a huge racist bigot, yet it's somehow perfectly fine to do the EXACT same thing to another group of people. So amusing.

 

MillionaireNextDoor

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Originally posted by: FIFO
Also, it might be a good time to point out that a proper protestant church body should never hate homosexual people but only hate homosexuality. I realize how difficult it is to separate the person from the act but it is necessary.

I second that.

They (homosexuals) can yet be saved.

But having them be pastors would make them hypocrites, especially when they talk about abstaining from having homesexual relations.
 

DeMeo

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Originally posted by: amdforever2
What churches are completely accepting of homosexuals in their membership and clergy?

To name a few:

The church of latter day homos

Saint Cornholio's

Our lady of dude looks lie a lady

 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: DeMeo
Originally posted by: amdforever2
What churches are completely accepting of homosexuals in their membership and clergy?

To name a few:

The church of latter day homos

Saint Cornholio's

Our lady of dude looks lie a lady
I'll just quote this for the mods.

 

preslove

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I would have no problem with a person like that serving in a church, just like most churches. But if the person knows of their sinful state, and refuses to take actions for their sins...any sin and not just homosexuality...through repentance, I would still embrace them, but also know that serving and taking a leadership role would not be the best place for them.


So raising three orphan boys in a loving *christian* home is akin to murder or any other sin? :roll:
 

whattaguy

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Originally posted by: preslove
I would have no problem with a person like that serving in a church, just like most churches. But if the person knows of their sinful state, and refuses to take actions for their sins...any sin and not just homosexuality...through repentance, I would still embrace them, but also know that serving and taking a leadership role would not be the best place for them.


So raising three orphan boys in a loving *christian* home is akin to murder or any other sin? :roll:

I'm sorry....but I don't understand what you're getting at.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: whattaguy
Originally posted by: preslove
I would have no problem with a person like that serving in a church, just like most churches. But if the person knows of their sinful state, and refuses to take actions for their sins...any sin and not just homosexuality...through repentance, I would still embrace them, but also know that serving and taking a leadership role would not be the best place for them.


So raising three orphan boys in a loving *christian* home is akin to murder or any other sin? :roll:

I'm sorry....but I don't understand what you're getting at.
It's not that complicated, Corky.

 

MillionaireNextDoor

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Sin is Sin, and leads to sin. If you understand the Bible, you'll know there's no varying degrees of Sin; they're all detestable to God.

Which is why salvation is applicable (able to be applied but not automatically applied) to everyone, including professing Christians and homosexuals alike.

Love the person (people can change), but hate the sin.
 

TravisT

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Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: TravisT
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: TravisT
Many methodist churches have been said to be quite accepting to homosexuality. Thank goodness I am not associated with a denomination like that..

Indeed; it's hard to imagine how one could be saved if they stopped hating.

*yawn*, i never said I hated anyone. You might assume that, but the bible explicitly says that homosexuality is wrong. I don't believe you can follow christianity and support that way of living. It is like the Church making murders and theives their pastors... it wouldn't be right, never will be right.

Actually, mr. hypocritical bigot, the bible says nothing about lesbians, just men. My Aunt served in the army, had a long term relationship with a very nice woman (post-service), adopted three nice young kids, and was a very active member in an open and loving methodist church.

Asshole.

I see she decided to avoid half of the bible.... I never said that homosexuals can't be good citizens and can't be loving people, but that doesn't get you into heaven.

Face it, you can not be a devout Christian and say there is nothing wrong with homosexuality. You may disagree with me, but people who say such things are the only ones who give Christians a bad name.
 

preslove

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Originally posted by: whattaguy
Originally posted by: preslove
I would have no problem with a person like that serving in a church, just like most churches. But if the person knows of their sinful state, and refuses to take actions for their sins...any sin and not just homosexuality...through repentance, I would still embrace them, but also know that serving and taking a leadership role would not be the best place for them.


So raising three orphan boys in a loving *christian* home is akin to murder or any other sin? :roll:

I'm sorry....but I don't understand what you're getting at.

Cliff notes:

My Aunt before succumbing to ovarian cancer = A credit to her country, family, and faith.

You and other "christians" like you = ignorant boobs, spreading intolerance in the name of god's love.
 

halik

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Originally posted by: DougK62
WTF - how did this nice and simple question turn into this crap?

The anti-queer religious folk are the biggest hypocrites in the world. If I started a religion that barred colored people from joining I'd be a huge racist bigot, yet it's somehow perfectly fine to do the EXACT same thing to another group of people. So amusing.

think about it. He's asking about what church will accept homosexuals. Taken in account the fact that bible references such acts as sins (sodoma/gomorrah etc.) and that vast majority of people against that kind of lifestyle base their opinions off the very same religion hes looking to practice, how could that not create problems.

to throw in analogous example from the opposite end of the spectrum just to relate it better - do you remeber the judge from down south that refused to follow an order from the federal court to take down 10 commendments and yet after he got dimissed he was trying hard to get his job back? It's basically the same situation. You've got a person action on their own behalf yet completly against the constructs of the particular institution he's trying to be a part of.


I'm trying to stay off the topic of morality and/or right and wrong in terms of homosexuality or religious intolerance. However i can see from logic point of view how the o/p can be seen as a hypocrite
 
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Originally posted by: TravisT
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: TravisT
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: TravisT
Many methodist churches have been said to be quite accepting to homosexuality. Thank goodness I am not associated with a denomination like that..

Indeed; it's hard to imagine how one could be saved if they stopped hating.

*yawn*, i never said I hated anyone. You might assume that, but the bible explicitly says that homosexuality is wrong. I don't believe you can follow christianity and support that way of living. It is like the Church making murders and theives their pastors... it wouldn't be right, never will be right.

Actually, mr. hypocritical bigot, the bible says nothing about lesbians, just men. My Aunt served in the army, had a long term relationship with a very nice woman (post-service), adopted three nice young kids, and was a very active member in an open and loving methodist church.

Asshole.

I see she decided to avoid half of the bible.... I never said that homosexuals can't be good citizens and can't be loving people, but that doesn't get you into heaven.

I just got off the horn with the big guy. He says he wants to speak to you this Saturday upcoming about golf, and if you're not up there by then he's dropping a piano on you. You dig?

- M4H
 

preslove

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Originally posted by: TravisT
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: TravisT
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: TravisT
Many methodist churches have been said to be quite accepting to homosexuality. Thank goodness I am not associated with a denomination like that..

Indeed; it's hard to imagine how one could be saved if they stopped hating.

*yawn*, i never said I hated anyone. You might assume that, but the bible explicitly says that homosexuality is wrong. I don't believe you can follow christianity and support that way of living. It is like the Church making murders and theives their pastors... it wouldn't be right, never will be right.

Actually, mr. hypocritical bigot, the bible says nothing about lesbians, just men. My Aunt served in the army, had a long term relationship with a very nice woman (post-service), adopted three nice young kids, and was a very active member in an open and loving methodist church.

Asshole.

I see she decided to avoid half of the bible.... I never said that homosexuals can't be good citizens and can't be loving people, but that doesn't get you into heaven.

Face it, you can not be a devout Christian and say there is nothing wrong with homosexuality. You may disagree with me, but people who say such things are the only ones who give Christians a bad name.

Actually, bucko, people like you are the ones who give chrisitians a bad name.
 

TravisT

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Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: TravisT
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: TravisT
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: TravisT
Many methodist churches have been said to be quite accepting to homosexuality. Thank goodness I am not associated with a denomination like that..

Indeed; it's hard to imagine how one could be saved if they stopped hating.

*yawn*, i never said I hated anyone. You might assume that, but the bible explicitly says that homosexuality is wrong. I don't believe you can follow christianity and support that way of living. It is like the Church making murders and theives their pastors... it wouldn't be right, never will be right.

Actually, mr. hypocritical bigot, the bible says nothing about lesbians, just men. My Aunt served in the army, had a long term relationship with a very nice woman (post-service), adopted three nice young kids, and was a very active member in an open and loving methodist church.

Asshole.

I see she decided to avoid half of the bible.... I never said that homosexuals can't be good citizens and can't be loving people, but that doesn't get you into heaven.

Face it, you can not be a devout Christian and say there is nothing wrong with homosexuality. You may disagree with me, but people who say such things are the only ones who give Christians a bad name.

Actually, bucko, people like you are the ones who give chrisitians a bad name.

Why? Because I actually tell you what the bible says instead of just taking out small parts that I want to live by? Please understand that I am not saying I am perfect, we all fall and come short of the glory of God. The difference is, is that I'm willing to admit it when I'm sinning and ask for repentance. Homosexuality is wrong based on what the bible says, it has no place in the kingdom of God, sorry if that offends you.

 
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Originally posted by: TravisT
Why? Because I actually tell you what the bible says instead of just taking out small parts that I want to live by? Please understand that I am not saying I am perfect, we all fall and come short of the glory of God. The difference is, is that I'm willing to admit it when I'm sinning and ask for repentance. Homosexuality is wrong based on what the bible says, it has no place in the kingdom of God, sorry if that offends you.

If I slap you on the ass, will you turn the other cheek?

- M4H
 
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