What GPU hsf to get?

W00TSAUCE

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My rig is a 6800 ultra, winchester 3200 at 2.4 ghz and 1 gig corsair value ram all in a CM stacker case. I want to cool this thing down so im thinking of getting the nv silencer 5, but a couple questions:

1. Is the nv 5 the best gpu hsf for my 6800?

2. Also, do i need any special tools to install it and how hard is it to install?

3. Is it really a big difference from the stock hsf? it is quite noisy...

Thanks, any help is appreciated. If you need any more info just ask.
 

cronic

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it will be quiter than the stock unit. not very hard to install. i will note that my temps increased with the nv silencer by several degrees. so i don't really recomened it for overclocking. thanks
 

JBDan

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I oc my 6800 gt from stock 350/1000 to 432/1170 with the rev 1 NV5. While the Zalman VF700 cooled my 6800gt 1-2C better than the NV5 and was a little quieter at idle, IMO the NV5 wins hands down for cooler "overall" system temps which translates to cooler cpu/mobo/NB/case temps. If you go NV5 be sure to get the rev 2. Its a little quieter than the rev 1 and has a better backside brace for better contact with the gpu and ram chips. Use AS5 if you can.
 

cronic

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the ultra runs quite a bit hotter than the gt. if you want the best cooling stick with the stock cooler. i ran 2 asus 6800 ultras in sli and trust me the stock cooler was much better than the nv silencer rev. 2 that i tried. stick with the stock cooler on the ultra or go with water cooling
 

W00TSAUCE

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How much AS5 should i get? I have a 3 1/2 gram tube and i dont think thats enough. Another tube of the same size?
 

JBDan

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Originally posted by: W00TSAUCE
How much AS5 should i get? I have a 3 1/2 gram tube and i dont think thats enough. Another tube of the same size?

Thats plenty.
 

cronic

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i would sugest tring some as5 on the stock cooler and see what yuou get. that gave me the lowest temps
 

JBDan

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Originally posted by: cronic
the ultra runs quite a bit hotter than the gt. if you want the best cooling stick with the stock cooler. i ran 2 asus 6800 ultras in sli and trust me the stock cooler was much better than the nv silencer rev. 2 that i tried. stick with the stock cooler on the ultra or go with water cooling

Yea I thought the same at first. The NV5's copper base and installation is tricky to get proper contact on the gpu and ram. After realizing this and reading about many other people complaining about this same issue I reseated it, making sure the proper contact was made. Many reviews out there and all state that the NV5 cools quite a bit better than the stock HSF. Plus its much quieter under load. Plus it exhausts the warm air out of the case instead of recirculating it inside. This is my experience using all 3 coolers (stock, VF700, NV5) and testing them at idle and load conditions.
 

cronic

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trust me it was seated properly. i remounted it about 4 times, sent it back for replacement, and mounted the new one 3 times. all with the same results. it was HOTTER than the stock cooler on my asus ultras . the nv idled at approx. 50-51. the stock cooler idled at 48
 

JBDan

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Originally posted by: cronic
trust me it was seated properly. i remounted it about 4 times, sent it back for replacement, and mounted the new one 3 times. all with the same results. it was HOTTER than the stock cooler on my asus ultras . the nv idled at approx. 50-51. the stock cooler idled at 48

Nothing said about "seated properly" and I do trust you did this correctly. It can be seated correctly and still not make good contact. This is my point. Its whether or not its making PROPER contact with the chips. Anyways you made your point and I am glad you are happy with your setup. OP, if you make proper contact with the NV5, it cools a little better/ much quieter/and more efficiently (reducing case temps) than the stock HSF. G-Luck
http://www.insanetek.com/index.php?page=vgasilencer
 

cronic

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When I said seated correctly i was referring to proper contact. Meaning that the copper base was making complete, flush contact with the gpu and memory.Also known as seating the heatink correctly on the gpu and memory. It was very clear that "proper contact" was being made because upon removal of the heatsink, many times, complete coverage of all surfaces (memory and gpu) with the correct amount of theramal compound. I should also add that the first unit actually broke. One of the mounting lugs snaped in two due to tighting, and losening, the heatsink so many times.As I said it was replaced by the great guys at crazy pc, and I had the same issues and results with the replacement unit as well. That was not confusing to me and I am sorry that it confused JBDAN or anyone else. I do not feel that the nv silencer is worth your time or money if using it on an ultra.I think I have made completly clear.
I guess we agree to disagree at this point. thanks for your input on this topic. Since you put up a link to this site here are the results on the 6800 ultra from that review:
6800 Ultra

I chose the 6800 Ultra first because this card may be the most power hungry, heat producing video card on the market. As you can see, the stock heatsink for the 6800 Ultra is exceptional already. The heatsink itself is comprised of a large aluminum heatsink, while the ram is heatpipe cooled with aluminum rods and another large aluminum heatsink. The fan is a LOUD delta blower that pushes a lot of air. Overall, the stock heatsink is very impressive. One flaw I need to point out, already discussed previously, is that the new Silencer will not work on a double bracket video card, such as this 6800 Ultra. The exhaust would be blocked for the duct if you were to use the existing double PCI bracket on the video card. My solution was just to exchange the bracket on the GT for the Ultra and then dremel the VGA connector to accommodate the DVI connector. Here are the results
Idle stock 50 silencer 49
load stock 72 silencer 69
Notice how the Silencer doesn't do much in lowering temps. The reason could be Nvidia's need to integrate an already sufficient cooling system for their power hungry 6800 Ultra. The Silencer did manage to reduce overall ambient temps, but not by much. One thing to note is the decrease in overall sound from the VGA fan with the Silencer. The 6800 Ultra comes equipped with a thick Delta blower that can be hard on the ears once the thermal fan control function starts kicking in. The Silencer was noticeably much quieter. The max overclock for both coolers were the same, possibly indicating I have reached the limit with air cooling since this card was flashed to a 6800 extreme edition.


 

JBDan

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Originally posted by: cronic
When I said seated correctly i was referring to proper contact. Meaning that the copper base was making complete, flush contact with the gpu and memory.Also known as seating the heatink correctly on the gpu and memory. It was very clear that "proper contact" was being made because upon removal of the heatsink, many times, complete coverage of all surfaces (memory and gpu) with the correct amount of theramal compound. I should also add that the first unit actually broke. One of the mounting lugs snaped in two due to tighting, and losening, the heatsink so many times.As I said it was replaced by the great guys at crazy pc, and I had the same issues and results with the replacement unit as well. That was not confusing to me and I am sorry that it confused JBDAN or anyone else. I do not feel that the nv silencer is worth your time or money if using it on an ultra.I think I have made completly clear.
I guess we agree to disagree at this point. thanks for your input on this topic. Since you put up a link to this site here are the results on the 6800 ultra from that review:
6800 Ultra

I chose the 6800 Ultra first because this card may be the most power hungry, heat producing video card on the market. As you can see, the stock heatsink for the 6800 Ultra is exceptional already. The heatsink itself is comprised of a large aluminum heatsink, while the ram is heatpipe cooled with aluminum rods and another large aluminum heatsink. The fan is a LOUD delta blower that pushes a lot of air. Overall, the stock heatsink is very impressive. One flaw I need to point out, already discussed previously, is that the new Silencer will not work on a double bracket video card, such as this 6800 Ultra. The exhaust would be blocked for the duct if you were to use the existing double PCI bracket on the video card. My solution was just to exchange the bracket on the GT for the Ultra and then dremel the VGA connector to accommodate the DVI connector. Here are the results
Idle stock 50 silencer 49
load stock 72 silencer 69
Notice how the Silencer doesn't do much in lowering temps. The reason could be Nvidia's need to integrate an already sufficient cooling system for their power hungry 6800 Ultra. The Silencer did manage to reduce overall ambient temps, but not by much. One thing to note is the decrease in overall sound from the VGA fan with the Silencer. The 6800 Ultra comes equipped with a thick Delta blower that can be hard on the ears once the thermal fan control function starts kicking in. The Silencer was noticeably much quieter. The max overclock for both coolers were the same, possibly indicating I have reached the limit with air cooling since this card was flashed to a 6800 extreme edition.

I'm not confused, just suprised the NV5 didn't work for you. Every system is different. The silencer has just made a much cooler system in my case (p180 & my components). My ambient temps were greatly affected when I switched from stock, to VF700, to NV5. NV 5 allowed me to turn all my fans down also allowing for a quieter system which is what I am all about. After all, this discusion is what most OP's want: differing opinions. Differnet strokes for different folks.
 
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