What would you guys do?

[SlitheryDee]

$200 is too much to spend on a bird. I vote let it die.

Then again the reason I don't have any pets is because I don't give a shit about animals.

 

[rh71]

typical life expectancy?

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: fleabag
people who don't fix up animals are the same fucking idiots who refuse to spend $500 to fix up their once working car and instead will fork out $30K+ because that way they'll "save money" :rollseyes; It's a lot of work to train, take care of and "love" a new animal, it's far easier to just spend the money and get it fixed up if you can, now if it requires like $10K+ in experimental surgery, then I'd give up..

Unless his girlfriend is a magician on the side, I highly doubt this is some sort of "trained" bird. You just don't train birds. You stick 'em in a cage and replace the lining and add food/water as necessary. About the only pet that requires less personal interaction is a fish.

That said, I would have probably paid for the X-ray and made a decision from there, but I have a decent amount of disposable income and it wouldn't kill me to spend $200.

Of course, there's also the (very likely) chance that it's guaranteed not to just be the X-ray. The vet probably said something like needing to have the X-ray just to know what was wrong and that it would likely cost a lot more once they knew what was wrong with it. I hope that Sea Moose has another $300-$500 to spend if it turns out that something much more expensive is needed.

As far as fleabag's inept comparison to a car goes: These birds cost between $50 and $100. A comparable situation with a $30,000 car would be someone choosing not to spend $60,000 on repairs and instead just buy another $30,000 car. Obviously pet are not cars and many people (myself included) are not willing to be so coldly calculating as to simply compare replacement cost with the cost of medical care but if you're going to create an analogy you should at least make an attempt at parity.

ZV

 

[ViviTheMage]

It better be a cool bird!

 

[Blieb]

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage
It better be a cool bird!

As someone who's paid over 10k in vet bills on dogs ...

Yeah, get the friggin' XRay ... just simple diagnostic work. here I think an XRay is $60 though, not sure why it's so much?

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: roguerower
I'd say the maximum cost is based on the inherrent value of the animal. A rare boa constrictor like a moonglow or a boelyns python warrants the spending of large amounts of money because they are extremly rare and the possible profit from breeding is sure to return your investment. But for a $10 tree frog, anole, goldfish, parakeet, $200 is a bit much imo.

So everyone buys a pet for monetary profit? GTFOOH.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Pics of GF?

 

[Chryso]

Originally posted by: Sea Moose
cockatiel. He hates everyone but my gf.

There's your answer right there. Why would her mother want to pay money on an animal that hates her?

 

[Possessed Freak]

Originally posted by: Blieb
As someone who's paid over 10k in vet bills on dogs ...

As a committed mental patient who paid over 10k in vet bills on dogs...


Let nature take its course, a pet is NOT a person. Get another one, hope it is healthier and more friendly to the family (that to me is the real kicker, why in the world would you ever keep a pet that the whole family does not get along with is beyond me).

 

[BeauJangles]

To answer your question OP, if the bird meant that much to my girlfriend and I had the money then I'd certainly pay to find out what's wrong with it. It doesn't really matter that it's "just a bird." People get attached to things and, while the bird might not be worth the cost of the X-Ray, doing the right thing for your girlfriend is definitely worth the money.

 

[Crono]

When you were young and your heart was an open book,
You used to say live and let live.
(You know you did, you know you did, you know you did.)
But if this ever changing world in which we live in
makes you give it a cry, say Live and Let Die!

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: BeauJangles
To answer your question OP, if the bird meant that much to my girlfriend and I had the money then I'd certainly pay to find out what's wrong with it. It doesn't really matter that it's "just a bird." People get attached to things and, while the bird might not be worth the cost of the X-Ray, doing the right thing for your girlfriend is definitely worth the money.

:thumbsup:

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: fleabag
people who don't fix up animals are the same fucking idiots who refuse to spend $500 to fix up their once working car and instead will fork out $30K+ because that way they'll "save money" :rollseyes; It's a lot of work to train, take care of and "love" a new animal, it's far easier to just spend the money and get it fixed up if you can, now if it requires like $10K+ in experimental surgery, then I'd give up..

Unless his girlfriend is a magician on the side, I highly doubt this is some sort of "trained" bird. You just don't train birds. You stick 'em in a cage and replace the lining and add food/water as necessary. About the only pet that requires less personal interaction is a fish.

That said, I would have probably paid for the X-ray and made a decision from there, but I have a decent amount of disposable income and it wouldn't kill me to spend $200.

Of course, there's also the (very likely) chance that it's guaranteed not to just be the X-ray. The vet probably said something like needing to have the X-ray just to know what was wrong and that it would likely cost a lot more once they knew what was wrong with it. I hope that Sea Moose has another $300-$500 to spend if it turns out that something much more expensive is needed.

As far as fleabag's inept comparison to a car goes: These birds cost between $50 and $100. A comparable situation with a $30,000 car would be someone choosing not to spend $60,000 on repairs and instead just buy another $30,000 car. Obviously pet are not cars and many people (myself included) are not willing to be so coldly calculating as to simply compare replacement cost with the cost of medical care but if you're going to create an analogy you should at least make an attempt at parity.

ZV

Birds sure can be trained, including a cockatiel.

 

[edro]

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: Sea Moose
This where i say, there are plenty of humans and if you were in the same room i would surely make sure that there were 2 less..

wow... comparing a human being to a stupid bird.
only in austrailia i guess..
but then again, my ancestors weren't criminals... so i can understand why you dont value human life.

L
O
L
!

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: Wheezer
How serious are you guys?

How old is your GF?

Pics?

You have not given us much to go on...for example what is their financial situation?

Perhaps that is money that would be needed for something more important....like rent or an electric bill.

Perhaps her mother is more of a practical person than you or your GF are and does not let something like the emotional attachment to an animal get in her way.

The bottom line here is this...if you feel that strongly about it, forget the mothers viewpoint....move on and lend her or give (depending on your situation) the money...it will make you feel better it will make her feel better and you'll be her hero.

Did I already ask for pics?

this.

i have a cockatiel, if he ended up sick id try to make him better but spending tons of cash on it probably wont happen. i would have also looked around at other vets to see if that was the only price available. my cat from a long time ago got chewed up pretty good by a dog, then ran up a 3 story tree to get away from the dog... fell 2 stories out of the tree onto concrete. after taking him to the vet, he gave us the option of this surgery he "needed" to survive or cleaning the wounds and letting him take his chances. 63 bucks for the clean and pills or 650 for the "needed" surgery. 63 bucks and he lived for 10 more years. i didnt have any guilt for not giving him the surgery, had no qualms about making the "natural selection" choice, despite the looks it got me from the vet and his assistants.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: fleabag
people who don't fix up animals are the same fucking idiots who refuse to spend $500 to fix up their once working car and instead will fork out $30K+ because that way they'll "save money" :rollseyes; It's a lot of work to train, take care of and "love" a new animal, it's far easier to just spend the money and get it fixed up if you can, now if it requires like $10K+ in experimental surgery, then I'd give up..

Unless his girlfriend is a magician on the side, I highly doubt this is some sort of "trained" bird. You just don't train birds. You stick 'em in a cage and replace the lining and add food/water as necessary. About the only pet that requires less personal interaction is a fish.

youve obviously never had a bird other than parakeets... there are lots of birds that need social interaction as much as dogs or cats. hell, i have a blue rat, bigass iguana, cockatiel, fish and a dog. all of them need face time (except the fishies), and they let you know when they arent getting enough, just like a dog or a cat will. some birds are just cage animals that you dont take out, others need to be out once in a while.

 

[JJ650]

Originally posted by: Sea Moose

Originally posted by: OogyWaWa

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Would you have the bird put down

Put the bird down..

its just a bird.

and yes i've had a number of birds as pets.

its just a bird.

this. especially if it is only a fucking cockatiel. maybe if it was a parrot or something i would do something about it...

Hmm this is interesting seem as its a lovely little bird that is only 2 years old.


See, this is why i wanted to set up a poll. This where i say, there are plenty of humans and if you were in the same room i would surely make sure that there were 2 less.


Your only a fucking human after all.

So, you make a thread asking what to do. Let it live or let it die. Then when people say to let it die, you retort by saying they should be eliminated???????

whatever.


BUT, if it were me, get the little thing x-rayed and go from there. If it requires a ton of cash to make him better, then I say put him down. It's a cockatiel. If it were a cockatoo or Macaw...then I would put a little more effort in.

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
About the only pet that requires less personal interaction is a fish.

ZV

Sorry, it seems you know very little about birds.

 

[KeithTalent]

Oh man, no question I would be taking it to the vet. This is a living thing you (using the general "you" here OP) signed on to care for and you should do what you can to help it live. If you don't want to pay to keep your pet healthy, you shouldn't have a pet. I don't even understand how this is a question.

KT

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: fleabag
people who don't fix up animals are the same fucking idiots who refuse to spend $500 to fix up their once working car and instead will fork out $30K+ because that way they'll "save money" :rollseyes; It's a lot of work to train, take care of and "love" a new animal, it's far easier to just spend the money and get it fixed up if you can, now if it requires like $10K+ in experimental surgery, then I'd give up..

Unless his girlfriend is a magician on the side, I highly doubt this is some sort of "trained" bird. You just don't train birds. You stick 'em in a cage and replace the lining and add food/water as necessary. About the only pet that requires less personal interaction is a fish.

That said, I would have probably paid for the X-ray and made a decision from there, but I have a decent amount of disposable income and it wouldn't kill me to spend $200.

Of course, there's also the (very likely) chance that it's guaranteed not to just be the X-ray. The vet probably said something like needing to have the X-ray just to know what was wrong and that it would likely cost a lot more once they knew what was wrong with it. I hope that Sea Moose has another $300-$500 to spend if it turns out that something much more expensive is needed.

As far as fleabag's inept comparison to a car goes: These birds cost between $50 and $100. A comparable situation with a $30,000 car would be someone choosing not to spend $60,000 on repairs and instead just buy another $30,000 car. Obviously pet are not cars and many people (myself included) are not willing to be so coldly calculating as to simply compare replacement cost with the cost of medical care but if you're going to create an analogy you should at least make an attempt at parity.

ZV

Regardless of cost, a car is nothing more than a complex piece of machinery. The bird is alive, bleeds, feels pain, has a level of intelligence and if the girl spends time with it interacts with her and obviously she has an emotional attachment to it. Animals are not just disposable objects like a broken microwave or car.

 

[Schfifty Five]

Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Ok Atot, here is the situation.

I was driving to a job today, when my gf rang me in tears. And the kind of tears that makes your heart break.

Her pet bird is sick. She loves this bird and it needs an xray. Her mother is pure evil and would not give my gf the $200AUD to get the XRAY. Her mother said, just put the bird down. The bird is only 2 years old.

I have told my gf to take the bird back to the vet for the xray and to tell them to charge it to my credit card.

We are awaiting the results of the tests.



I was gobsmacked that her mother is such an evil bitch to just condemn the little bird to die.



What would you guys have done? Would you have the bird put down or would you pay for the basic diagnostic tests?

I wish i could have set this up as a poll, but i don't know how to set up polls.

How fucking stupid do you have to be to not know how to set up a poll? There's a FUCKING BUTTON that says ADD POLL when you made the thread!!!

Damn dude, hit edit on this post and add the fucking poll, noobcake.

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: Schfifty Five

Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Ok Atot, here is the situation.

I was driving to a job today, when my gf rang me in tears. And the kind of tears that makes your heart break.

Her pet bird is sick. She loves this bird and it needs an xray. Her mother is pure evil and would not give my gf the $200AUD to get the XRAY. Her mother said, just put the bird down. The bird is only 2 years old.

I have told my gf to take the bird back to the vet for the xray and to tell them to charge it to my credit card.

We are awaiting the results of the tests.



I was gobsmacked that her mother is such an evil bitch to just condemn the little bird to die.



What would you guys have done? Would you have the bird put down or would you pay for the basic diagnostic tests?

I wish i could have set this up as a poll, but i don't know how to set up polls.

How fucking stupid do you have to be to not know how to set up a poll? There's a FUCKING BUTTON that says ADD POLL when you made the thread!!!

Damn dude, hit edit on this post and add the fucking poll, noobcake.

No need to be a dickscarf about it.

 

[MattCo]

Here is my question, why doesn't your GF just get her own damn money? Expecting the mom to shell out for the GFs pet is crap. Sounds a little silver spoonish to expect the $200 to be handed to her just because she "loves" this bird. At least you are hopefully getting something for the $200 loan.

 

[Gothgar]

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: guyver01
but then again, my ancestors weren't criminals... so i can understand why you dont value human life.

:laugh: jesus fucking christ...lol

Anyhow, $200 is way more than it costs to buy a new one, right? Let it go and just buy a new one.

wow, lol

 

[AstroManLuca]

1. Birds are a lot like dogs. I have had two cockatiels. They are very sociable critters and get attached to people.
2. They aren't super cheap. Not that expensive, but a hand-tamed one (that won't bite absolutely everyone it encounters) cost me like $100 over 10 years ago. Could be higher now, I don't know. Maybe they're cheaper in Australia since cockatiels are native there, but it requires just as much work to breed and raise them.
3. Everyone has to set their own limit for how much they're willing to spend on pet health. $200 seems pretty low to me. I think my limit's around $400 or $500. Of course it depends on the vet's prognosis and the pet's age. I'd put down an old pet that may get a slightly longer life with a $400 surgery, but if it's a young one that can be fully healed for the same $400, I'd do it.

If you personally attack others here for disagreeing with you on how much is worth it, you're an asshole. Everyone has their own limit. Also, if you think birds aren't sociable or are just cheap decorations, you're stupid. Lot of stupid, ignorant people in this thread.