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angminas

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We don't know her mom. We don't know how much money she makes, or if your gf is in the habit of mooching, or anything. We have no basis for judging her decision. Just because somebody else has a problem doesn't mean you always necessarily ought to shell out. Sometimes it's good to, and sometimes it's not...you need to know the situation. Not enough info.

And seriously, threatening to kill people who would choose not to fix the bird? After you ASKED? And comparing human life to a pet bird? Settle down, Beavis.
 

geno

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Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
Also, if you think birds aren't sociable

I don't think anyone made that argument

Edit : I changed my mind too. $200 isn't much to keep the bird alive, esp if your GF is that attached to it.
 

Kntx

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Maybe if it was $200 to fix the bird I'd pay to not deal with crying woman. $200 to find out what is wrong then $X to fix the bird is too risky.

So the bird is sick. I imagine birds get sick. Maybe it will get better on its own.
 

skace

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I like how your options are "let it live or let it die". Shouldn't they be "Keep it alive or let it die" ? Point being is you can't exactly let it live if it needs 3rd party intervention unless you mean actively kill it vs watch it die slowly.
 

alkemyst

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in all fairness your g/f shouldn't have taken on a pet if she couldn't at least cover basic medical procedures for it.

 

lxskllr

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Originally posted by: Linflas


Regardless of cost, a car is nothing more than a complex piece of machinery. The bird is alive, bleeds, feels pain, has a level of intelligence and if the girl spends time with it interacts with her and obviously she has an emotional attachment to it. Animals are not just disposable objects like a broken microwave or car.

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Oh man, no question I would be taking it to the vet. This is a living thing you (using the general "you" here OP) signed on to care for and you should do what you can to help it live. If you don't want to pay to keep your pet healthy, you shouldn't have a pet. I don't even understand how this is a question.

KT

These are the 2 most applicable quotes in the thread.
 

LOUISSSSS

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let it die, its just a bird.

how much would you pay to x-ray your stupid goldfish? hamster? $50? LOL

you're a moron for calling her mother a bitch, its HER money to spend on w/e she wants. what if that $200 was saved for your stupid gf's medical bill? hmm gf or bird? lol
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: guyver01
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
This where i say, there are plenty of humans and if you were in the same room i would surely make sure that there were 2 less..

wow... comparing a human being to a stupid bird.

only in austrailia i guess..

but then again, my ancestors weren't criminals... so i can understand why you dont value human life.

says a guy that has a nearly decade old memorium in his sig. Aren't you over that yet?

I don't know why you type of people insist that someone that wants to take care of an animal thinks somehow it's more important than a human.

 

bobsmith1492

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Budgies cost ten bucks at the store; hardly worth $200 for an xray just to find out it's going to die anyway.

Cockatiels... dunno how expensive they are but they are not long-lived (10-15 years max) so it's probably not worth it.
 

buck

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Originally posted by: guyver01
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
This where i say, there are plenty of humans and if you were in the same room i would surely make sure that there were 2 less..

wow... comparing a human being to a stupid bird.

only in austrailia i guess..

but then again, my ancestors weren't criminals... so i can understand why you dont value human life.

Best post in a VERY long time.

10/10:thumbsup::laugh:
 

lxskllr

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Originally posted by: bobsmith1492
Budgies cost ten bucks at the store; hardly worth $200 for an xray just to find out it's going to die anyway.

Cockatiels... dunno how expensive they are but they are not long-lived (10-15 years max) so it's probably not worth it.

Ok, lets take a purely economic stand on this. We'll say $200 for the Xray, and $500 to treat the condition. The bird's 2 years old, and based on a life expectancy of 13 years, that leaves 11 years left. $700/11=$64 per year for an animal that his GF loves. How much do you pay per month for the cable you use to shit on others peoples lives?
 

thegimp03

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If $200 is more than it costs to get a bird, then I vote let it die and buy her a new one. $200 for an Xray, then you find out what's wrong with it, then you might be out another several hundred bucks to get the bird fixed. It's not worth it.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: thegimp03
If $200 is more than it costs to get a bird, then I vote let it die and buy her a new one. $200 for an Xray, then you find out what's wrong with it, then you might be out another several hundred bucks to get the bird fixed. It's not worth it.

The cost of a pet <> value of one.

By your logic parent's would be better off just letting a kid die off when they got sick.

 

Zenmervolt

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Oct 22, 2000
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Originally posted by: Linflas
Regardless of cost, a car is nothing more than a complex piece of machinery. The bird is alive, bleeds, feels pain, has a level of intelligence and if the girl spends time with it interacts with her and obviously she has an emotional attachment to it. Animals are not just disposable objects like a broken microwave or car.

Quite so, but that aspect of the car comparison's absurdity seemed rather obvious.

ZV
 

roguerower

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: roguerower
I'd say the maximum cost is based on the inherrent value of the animal. A rare boa constrictor like a moonglow or a boelyns python warrants the spending of large amounts of money because they are extremly rare and the possible profit from breeding is sure to return your investment. But for a $10 tree frog, anole, goldfish, parakeet, $200 is a bit much imo.

So everyone buys a pet for monetary profit? GTFOOH.

Alright, looking back on my post and how it seems very cruel, it seems like what I was trying to say and what I actually said are two different things.

What I also meant to include was depending on the owner's attachment to the creature that might warrant the spending of large amounts of money. But spending $200 on a cockatiel for an x-ray (simply diagnostic, doesn't fix anything) is a bit much imho. For a dog that i've lived with for 10 years and has been with me through extremely rough times (just an example) that would be the tip of the iceberg.

I doubt I clarified my viewpoint but my beliefs on the subject are difficult to explain.
 

KK

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Rip its head off, then duct tape it back on and sell it to the blind kid.
 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: Sea Moose
cockatiel. He hates everyone but my gf. You can tell her is really happy when he is hanging out with her.
Edit: sings real nice too

Cockatiels are ok birds...but here they sell for anywhere from $39 to about $89. I don't think I'd invest $200 in the x-ray for one.
 

fleabag

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Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: fleabag
now if it requires like $10K+ in experimental surgery, then I'd give up..

So you admit there's a breaking point. Some peoples' threshold is lower than others'.

There is a breaking point, same with people.. Would you spend $100K on a liver transplant for an alcoholic homeless person?
 

fleabag

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt


As far as fleabag's inept comparison to a car goes: These birds cost between $50 and $100. A comparable situation with a $30,000 car would be someone choosing not to spend $60,000 on repairs and instead just buy another $30,000 car. Obviously pet are not cars and many people (myself included) are not willing to be so coldly calculating as to simply compare replacement cost with the cost of medical care but if you're going to create an analogy you should at least make an attempt at parity.

ZV
Show me an estimate where it says it'd cost $60,000 to repair a $30K EQUIVALENT car (this isn't factoring in depreciation). An engine rebuild, tranny rebuild, etc. should NEVER cost more than buying a new car, NEVER, well unless you think going from one used car to another is a "new car". I'm not talking about a car that was turned into a horrific mess like you see in those pictures online, I'm talking about a car you know its history where a major thing like the engine goes and they choose to buy a NEW car instead of repairing their existing car.
 

iGas

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Originally posted by: guyver01
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
This where i say, there are plenty of humans and if you were in the same room i would surely make sure that there were 2 less..

wow... comparing a human being to a stupid bird.

only in austrailia i guess..

but then again, my ancestors weren't criminals... so i can understand why you dont value human life.
We off people everyday in various part of the world.
 
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