What would you guys do?

[IEC]

Originally posted by: Sea Moose
See, this is why i wanted to set up a poll. This where i say, there are plenty of humans and if you were in the same room i would surely make sure that there were 2 less.

Your(sp) only a fucking human after all.

Prime candidate for PETA!

 

[Nitemare]

Would have agreed with the mother, until the gf started crying...

a woman's tears is like kryptonite to me.

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: iGas

It is just a bird.

This

They show no emotions. How do you even know the bird likes someone? Let it go.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: iGas

It is just a bird.

This

They show no emotions. How do you even know the bird likes someone? Let it go.

Birds can show emotion.

 

[Nik]

An xray isn't going to fix the bird, it's only going to help diagnose the bird. The real money will come later when the diagnosis reveals exactly what you'll have to pay to have done.

Put the bird down, spend the $200 on a replacement pet.

 

[lupi]

$200 would only let you buy what, like 15 new ones?

 

[Ronstang]

I just spent $500 on one of my dogs at the vet 2 weeks ago so you can guess my answer.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: fleabag

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: fleabag
now if it requires like $10K+ in experimental surgery, then I'd give up..

So you admit there's a breaking point. Some peoples' threshold is lower than others'.

There is a breaking point, same with people.. Would you spend $100K on a liver transplant for an alcoholic homeless person?

I wouldn't spend 10 dollars on a liver transplant for an alcoholic homeless person.

 

[SneakyStuff]

If it were me I'd take the bird to a vet and have it put to sleep. I say this as an owner of 2 birds. My first bird developed a fatty tumor, it was operated on, my bird went through a rough recovery process, and died a painful death a year later because the tumor came back. That's my logical side talking though. If you LOVE your gf you'd be an IDIOT to be anything other than supportive in terms of getting the bird checked out unless you love sleeping on the couch. Once you see how much it costs to operate on a small animal like a bird though your willingness to help might be strained a little bit , hopefully it isn't something serious though and I wish you both the best of luck.

 

[Kadarin]

Our family used to have cockatiels, and now I can't stand the fucking things. When they start shrieking I just want to find the nearest pellet gun and start taking potshots so they'll just shut up.

That said, I agree that your g/f is irresponsible if she's got one and can't afford the money to take it to the vet. It's not the responsibility of anyone else in her life to donate (waste) money to keep it alive.

 

[Red Squirrel]

For 200 bucks I'd have it done, though you do need to draw the line to some point. If you will end up spending thousands and the life span of the pet is not even that long to consider that kind of money then it becomes a tough decision. For example I know someone who had a dog that swallowed a tennis ball. Had to have a 1k operation done to remove it.

Day later it swallowed another one AGAIN! The owner then decided to put the dog down as it would of been another 1k and who knows if it would even recover after a fresh operation to begin with. The dog had this thing about trying to swallow big objects so it would of later died from it anyway most likely. I would never want to be in a situation where I had to make a decision on whether to spend a huge sum or put my pet down though. That can't be easy.

 

[DrPizza]

I don't think I'd have hesitated to spend $200 as part of a cure. However (and, I am not a vet), I question the diagnostic value of an x-ray on a bird? With its organs as small as they are, do x-rays have high enough resolution of soft tissue to do much good there? Did the bird fly into a picture window & they're trying to figure out which bones are broken? Or do they not have a clue & are just suggesting a relatively inexpensive, familiar test to help put the owner's mind at ease that the owner is doing everything possible to try to save the bird, only to hear "we've done all we could, but we simply cannot fine what's wrong."

Good luck though! Hopefully the bird recovers.

Maybe the resident former veterinarian student can chime in on this point.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: iGas

It is just a bird.

This

They show no emotions. How do you even know the bird likes someone? Let it go.

Birds can show emotion.

QFT....most people don't even interact with their own kind so I can see how they can miss that.

To others above...it's always the retarded argument when one talks about cash limits for care and then compares that to what one would spend on a person.

Let's take a family dog vs that person's mother. Even a devout dog lover probably wouldn't put their home up for sale over a pet, but a wealthy person may spend even more than that without thinking twice.

That same original person would probably put their home up for sale if it did mean saving their mother's life though.

And yes, someone would spend more for a family pet than if they had an opportunity to save the life of some stranger over it.

Hell I am not rich by any means but I do spend about $60 a month just feeding feral cats that frolic on my property.

 

[guyver01]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
says a guy that has a nearly decade old memorium in his sig. Aren't you over that yet?

Again.. comparing a bird to a human being.

Alkemyst... i have NEVER said this before, and will probably never say this again, but i hope you know the pain of losing a loved one. I hope someone in your Family DIES. And when you're still in pain about it 20 years from now, i will point you to this quote of yours.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: alkemyst
says a guy that has a nearly decade old memorium in his sig. Aren't you over that yet?

Again.. comparing a bird to a human being.

Alkemyst... i have NEVER said this before, and will probably never say this again, but i hope you know the pain of losing a loved one. I hope someone in your Family DIES. And when you're still in pain about it 20 years from now, i will point you to this quote of yours.

I am 38, I have had losses. It's part of life.

Your own sig should chime you in to the "it's just another [insert any loved one] here"

Maybe stop being bitter and learn to take care of all those birds you have owned in the past.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: fleabag

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt


As far as fleabag's inept comparison to a car goes: These birds cost between $50 and $100. A comparable situation with a $30,000 car would be someone choosing not to spend $60,000 on repairs and instead just buy another $30,000 car. Obviously pet are not cars and many people (myself included) are not willing to be so coldly calculating as to simply compare replacement cost with the cost of medical care but if you're going to create an analogy you should at least make an attempt at parity.

ZV

Show me an estimate where it says it'd cost $60,000 to repair a $30K EQUIVALENT car (this isn't factoring in depreciation). An engine rebuild, tranny rebuild, etc. should NEVER cost more than buying a new car, NEVER, well unless you think going from one used car to another is a "new car". I'm not talking about a car that was turned into a horrific mess like you see in those pictures online, I'm talking about a car you know its history where a major thing like the engine goes and they choose to buy a NEW car instead of repairing their existing car.

Cost of bird: $100
Cost of X-ray: $200

If a car cost $30,000, then a repair of comparable value to the X-ray's value compared to the bird would be $60,000. It doesn't matter if that's realistic for a car repair or not, that's the only mathematically apt comparison here. Your comparison is simply not apt. A $500 repair on a $30,000 car is equivalent to a $1.60 vet bill for this bird, not a $200 vet bill.

As others have said, pets are not machines and it makes sense to invest more in a pet than it's "worth" in terms of replacement value, but that's not relevant to your botched analogy.

ZV

 

[thegimp03]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: thegimp03
If $200 is more than it costs to get a bird, then I vote let it die and buy her a new one. $200 for an Xray, then you find out what's wrong with it, then you might be out another several hundred bucks to get the bird fixed. It's not worth it.

The cost of a pet <> value of one.

By your logic parent's would be better off just letting a kid die off when they got sick.

Whatever, nice way to misconstrue what I said (and what everyone else with my belief is saying) and try to associate the value of a pet's life with the value of human life - which I had no intention of doing.

I know from personal experience that with pets, you have to use common sense or you get screwed. The fact that the girl's own mom isn't paying for it, the girl can't pay for it/afford it, and sea moose has to dig into his own pocket to get an Xray just seems like a bad situation. A simple $200 Xray will turn into a $2,000 operation in no time.

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: thegimp03



I know from personal experience that with pets, you have to use common sense or you get screwed. The fact that the girl's own mom isn't paying for it, the girl can't pay for it/afford it, and sea moose has to dig into his own pocket to get an Xray just seems like a bad situation. A simple $200 Xray will turn into a $2,000 operation in no time.

Using my formula from earlier, with a total vet cost of $2,200, that comes out to $17 per month over the bird's lifetime. That doesn't sound unreasonable to me.

 

[RU482]

scenario 1 - pay the $200+.....curse the birds existence for the remainder of your relationship
scenario 2 - tell her no .....GF will never blow you again

Ask yourself....does she give good head?

 

[LOUISSSSS]

so, OP what r u going to do?

 

[Regs]

Stuff like this comes done to willingness to pay or willingness to accept. Not many people are ready to accept death, like your g/f demonstrated. My only advice is to do what's best for the animal and not what's best for you. Sometimes death comes more natural to some creatures than it is to others.



"you sold my dead bird to a blinde kid?"

 

[DainBramaged]

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: Sea Moose
This where i say, there are plenty of humans and if you were in the same room i would surely make sure that there were 2 less..

wow... comparing a human being to a stupid bird.

only in austrailia i guess..

but then again, my ancestors weren't criminals... so i can understand why you dont value human life.

Right, wrong, or otherwise, this post made me legitimately LOL.

:laugh:

 

[AstroManLuca]

Originally posted by: thegimp03

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: thegimp03
If $200 is more than it costs to get a bird, then I vote let it die and buy her a new one. $200 for an Xray, then you find out what's wrong with it, then you might be out another several hundred bucks to get the bird fixed. It's not worth it.

The cost of a pet <> value of one.

By your logic parent's would be better off just letting a kid die off when they got sick.

Whatever, nice way to misconstrue what I said (and what everyone else with my belief is saying) and try to associate the value of a pet's life with the value of human life - which I had no intention of doing.

I know from personal experience that with pets, you have to use common sense or you get screwed. The fact that the girl's own mom isn't paying for it, the girl can't pay for it/afford it, and sea moose has to dig into his own pocket to get an Xray just seems like a bad situation. A simple $200 Xray will turn into a $2,000 operation in no time.

Yes, but it could also turn into a $200 operation. You never know. If it's a huge amount of money like $2,000, the OP has an easy and mostly guilt-free reason to say no to further operations ("Honey, we did all we could; I wish I could help more but $2,000 is just too much"). $200 is not a ton of money and it's not worth getting in a big fight over it. Refusing makes you look like a cheap ass.

I guess the worst possible scenario would be if the operation required is like $500 or something. Not quite high enough to back out of paying, but not low enough to be easy to pay.

 

[PieIsAwesome]

My family has had several smaller birds get sick and die, it never made economic sense to take them to the vet so it was never done. I was sad when they died. We also had a parrot we loved get sick, and of course it was taken to the vet, though it eventually ended up succumbing to its complications. Being young at that time I was sad.

We also lost two other parrots to some respiratory disease several years apart. Unfortunately they died before we realized there was anything seriously wrong with them, their ailment seems like the occasional cold until one morning we discover them dead. By then I stopped caring. These things happen. Oh well.

But as to the original question, no, I wouldn't spend any money on animals to begin with.

Though in the OP's case it seems that spending the money is getting him some. . . pics of GF?

 

[Sea Moose]

Update:

I gave the green light for the bird to have the xray. We found out that it does not have cancer or an egg. (sometimes female birds get eggs caught or something) It does have a stomach infection, so the vet is going to try and give her antibiotics. But i told her that the vet has the final say in putting it down or not.

Her mother is an uber bitch.

My gf is having money issues because she got hit by a speeding car in a narrow street last year. (she is ok now) But she had to give her job away, she is waiting to kick start her career again. She has suffered depression etc and her pets help her relax.

We give our animals great care and attention. Her cat lived for 20years. My dog is 18years old and we have a collection of rare fish.