Whats best 12-pipe card?

[Nextman916]

Whats the best of these?
x800pro
x800gto
6800nu
6800gs (when released)

 

[yhelothar]

6800NU unlocked to 16pipes6vp

edit: I guess I've been out of the loop

 

[sisq0kidd]

6800gs

 

[sisq0kidd]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0
6800NU unlocked to 16pipes6vp

That has got to be the worst.

 

[Nextman916]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0
6800NU unlocked to 16pipes6vp

Thats what i was thinking because the both the pro and even the agp gto OC like crazy, and the gs is basically a 6800gt, wait maybe a little slower due to lower clock speeds then its pci-e counterpart but its still a fast card.

 

[Steelski]

the X800Pro Vivo unlocks to be the full 16 aswell. (AGP only) i think this would be the fastest card. The GS is likley to be the best if you are not planning to overclock or unlock.

 

[mwmorph]

6800gto2 is fastest(with the guranteed unlock)
6800gs agp(cut down, but there are some good versions, i think xfx is releasing a 450/1.0 version instead of the crap 350/1.0, unlockls but not guranteed, the 6800nu has about a 50/50 chance of unlocking, not too sure about the gs but it should be in that range, being the same hip and all)
X800pro vivo and non vivo(with some work a hardmod to x800xt can be done, 80% chance but reall a hassle, involves taking off the cooler, and using conductive pen on the core, something litk a 80% chance though)
6800nu(just bad, stock, barey faster than a 6600gt, unlocked isnt all that much faster)

 

[Nextman916]

maybe i wasnt clear on these cards being agp so there is no agp gto2 only gto which is clocked just as high as the pci-e version. Seems the gto or the gs would be the way to go, and i just checked prices on the 6800nu which has seized in production, cheapest i found was $190 somethin most were over $200!

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Nextman916
maybe i wasnt clear on these cards being agp so there is no agp gto2 only gto which is clocked just as high as the pci-e version. Seems the gto or the gs would be the way to go, and i just checked prices on the 6800nu which has seized in production, cheapest i found was $190 somethin most were over $200!

look in Hot Deals - today

the 16 pipe x850xt is $200 after $50 MIR at Microcenter.
online too . . . i just bought one

of course there is no SM3.0 . . . but since you had other x800 cards, i thought i offer you a 4-pipe upgrade.
:thumbsup:

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: mwmorph
6800nu(just bad, stock, barey faster than a 6600gt, unlocked isnt all that much faster)

umm are you kidding me? It's about as fast as the 6800GT unlocked. I have one myself and it's about 50% faster unlocked.
I didn't know about the other cards unlocking either though. So the others may be better after unlock.

 

[Nextman916]

except its crippled with 128-bit of memory and does not have gddr3 ram....making it not even be close, also doesnt the bios only allow an oc up to 900mhz or something on the memory?

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: mwmorph
6800nu(just bad, stock, barey faster than a 6600gt, unlocked isnt all that much faster)

umm are you kidding me? It's about as fast as the 6800GT unlocked. I have one myself and it's about 50% faster unlocked.
I didn't know about the other cards unlocking either though. So the others may be better after unlock.

O RLY?
http://firingsquad.com/hardware/geforce_6800_unlocking/page6.asp

3Dmark05:
6800 stock: 3512
6800 12pipe, 6vs: 3658
6800 16pipe, 6vs: 3972
6800GT:4842

Pacific Fighters 16x12 4xaa 8xaf(for bigest performance difference between unlocked and stock versions)
6800 stock: 37.1
6800 12pipe, 6vs: 38.6
6800 16pipe, 6vs: 39.7
6800GT:47.7

Far Cry 16x12 4xaa 8xaf Volcano level
6800 stock: 29.1
6800 12pipe, 6vs: 29.2
6800 16pipe, 6vs: 32.6
6800GT:44.8

Far Cry 16x12 4xaa 8xaf Training level
6800 stock: 25.5
6800 12pipe, 6vs: 25.5
6800 16pipe, 6vs: 28.3
6800GT:43.2

Chronicles of Riddick 1600x1200 4xaa 8xaf
6800 stock: 19.9
6800 12pipe, 6vs: 20
6800 16pipe, 6vs: 21.6
6800GT:29.6

Doom 3 16x12 4xaa 8xaf
6800 stock: 26.1
6800 12pipe, 6vs: 26.3
6800 16pipe, 6vs: 28.5
6800GT:38.8

Half Life 2 16x12 4xaa 8xaf
6800 stock: 25.9
6800 12pipe, 6vs: 26.3
6800 16pipe, 6vs: 28.3
6800GT:43.1

Where is the fabled 50% or being faster than 6800gt or even close to nearly as fast?

 

[Nextman916]

well first of all thats because the gt isnt overclocked at all and everyone know they hit at least 400/1100 most of the time and even the ones that dont come dam close. I know he meant the 6800 unlocked and overclocked vs. the stock 6800gt but its not really a fair battle, as the 6800nu is pushing itself to the limits the 6800gt still beats it by about 10fps just sitting stock untouched. And yes a huge difference will begin to show at higher resolutions+more aa/af and max details in the difference of 128mb vs. 256mb especially in games like COD2 and FEAR. And mostly games in the future which is being discussed here, all of these cards would be bought to play future games yes?

 

[BFG10K]

6800NU unlocked to 16pipes6vp

And what if it doesn't unlock?

 

[CKXP]

i just sold my 6800nu on ebay, it unlocked and OCed like a charm 380/850 with an NV5 silencer, but even unlocked and at those speeds, it won't compare to the performance a stock 6800gt.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: BFG10K

6800NU unlocked to 16pipes6vp

And what if it doesn't unlock?

Unlocking the 6800

. . . NVIDIA?s GeForce 6800 can be easily modified from a 12-pixel pipeline/5 vertex unit mainstream card into a 16-pipe contender with just a few simple clicks of the mouse.

. . . all of our attempts to overclock three different GeForce 6800 vanilla cards were unsuccessful. We were able to easily unlock the pipes on all three cards, but with each of them we could never overclock the graphics core or memory, not even 5MHz. Whether we used RivaTuner to OC the boards or the NVIDIA control panel, each time we tested our settings the GeForce 6800 card would fail to pass the overclocking test. Even if we were able to hit the speeds we achieved in our EVGA e-GeForce 6800 review (400MHz core/810MHz memory), it still wouldn?t have been enough to catch up to say, a GeForce 6800 GT. The GeForce 6800, even with all 16 pixel pipes and 6 vertex pipes running, still gives up too much memory bandwidth to the GeForce 6800 GT to be a 6800 GT killer. The 6800 board?s 128MB frame buffer would also be a huge impediment to catching up to a GT.

hit or miss . . . and it still ain't no 6800GT - even with everything unlocking and o/c'ed

 

[sisq0kidd]

Whoa, some bad info here.

Yes, I did have a 6800 unclocked 16p 6vp and overclocked to 375/825 and NO it does not come near a 6800gt.

It's 256-bit, not 128-bit.

Edit: And from the four choices above, 6800gs is your best bet.

 

[yhelothar]

hmm I guess the memory is starting to limit the card. Back when I bought the card, everyone was saying that it could get to near GT speeds with the unlock and some overclocking.

 

[Sc4freak]

6800GS.

 

[jlbenedict]

Originally posted by: mwmorph
6800gto2 is fastest(with the guranteed unlock)
6800gs agp(cut down, but there are some good versions, i think xfx is releasing a 450/1.0 version instead of the crap 350/1.0, unlockls but not guranteed, the 6800nu has about a 50/50 chance of unlocking, not too sure about the gs but it should be in that range, being the same hip and all)
X800pro vivo and non vivo(with some work a hardmod to x800xt can be done, 80% chance but reall a hassle, involves taking off the cooler, and using conductive pen on the core, something litk a 80% chance though)
6800nu(just bad, stock, barey faster than a 6600gt, unlocked isnt all that much faster)

Where can I get one of these "6800GTO2's" ??

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: jlbenedict

Originally posted by: mwmorph
6800gto2 is fastest(with the guranteed unlock)
6800gs agp(cut down, but there are some good versions, i think xfx is releasing a 450/1.0 version instead of the crap 350/1.0, unlockls but not guranteed, the 6800nu has about a 50/50 chance of unlocking, not too sure about the gs but it should be in that range, being the same hip and all)
X800pro vivo and non vivo(with some work a hardmod to x800xt can be done, 80% chance but reall a hassle, involves taking off the cooler, and using conductive pen on the core, something litk a 80% chance though)
6800nu(just bad, stock, barey faster than a 6600gt, unlocked isnt all that much faster)

Where can I get one of these "6800GTO2's" ??

it's pci-e only and it's $209 or $220 at newegg., for agp, go with the $200 x850xt deal.

 

[sisq0kidd]

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: jlbenedict

Originally posted by: mwmorph
6800gto2 is fastest(with the guranteed unlock)
6800gs agp(cut down, but there are some good versions, i think xfx is releasing a 450/1.0 version instead of the crap 350/1.0, unlockls but not guranteed, the 6800nu has about a 50/50 chance of unlocking, not too sure about the gs but it should be in that range, being the same hip and all)
X800pro vivo and non vivo(with some work a hardmod to x800xt can be done, 80% chance but reall a hassle, involves taking off the cooler, and using conductive pen on the core, something litk a 80% chance though)
6800nu(just bad, stock, barey faster than a 6600gt, unlocked isnt all that much faster)

Where can I get one of these "6800GTO2's" ??

it's pci-e only and it's $209 or $220 at newegg., for agp, go with the $200 x850xt deal.

You meant x800gto2 I assume?

 

[Xyclone]

6800OC from BFG.

 

[fstime]

x800 Pro.

A few fps behind a 6800GT, a notch ahead of the 6600GT/6800 Vannila.

 

[Mavke]

I would go for the GeForce 6800 GS (AGP) as that features the NV40 (which should be able to unlock pipes like on the GeForce 6800 Standard) or the Radeon X800 GTO... And there you have some lole the GTO² and the GTO16 that can be unlocked as well.