What's the diff btwn Athlon64 & Opteron

banibratadutta

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Since both of these processors seem to be based on the AMD64 platform, what is the difference between them. At the AMD website they mention that Opteron can be used for both 64-bit & 32-bit mode of operation, but isn't that also the case with Athlon64 ?? Are they targetted at two different segments of end-users ?

- bd
 

Sonic587

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Opteron = Server market.

A64 = Desktop market.

And both can operate in either a 32-bit or 64-bit envrionment.
 

banibratadutta

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okay, but how are the guts different ? what makes Opteron better for Servers and Athlon64 better for the Desktops. what all is affected if you swap the application area, i.e. Opteron in your desktop ??
 

Sonic587

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From google search...

The first AMD64 processor on the market was the Opteron, which is geared toward high-end workstation and server machines. The Opteron is a 940-pin socket processor with an integrated heatsink, a 128-bit wide memory controller on-die (which is roughly equivalent in theoretical memory bandwidth performance to a dual-channel memory controller in a 32-bit Athlon XP system), the ability to use 144-bit registered ECC RAM, and some models are capable of working in tandem with up to seven other on-board processors in a multi-CPU machine. As of this writing the Opteron has three distinct models: the 100, 200, and 800 series and they can do single, dual, or up to eight-way processing, respectively. Each model performs similarly, with the only significant differences between them being multi-CPU capabilities and the number of HyperTransport links each has. More HyperTransport links means increased data throughput between the processor (or processors) and the devices mentioned above in the HyperTransport section. The Opteron requires registered memory and does not support unregistered RAM at all. Opteron machines can use either registered ECC RAM or registered non-ECC in a variety of sizes and chip densities, although you will be limited to a smaller amount of total RAM with 64-bit (as opposed to 128-bit) DIMMs.


The Athlon 64 is the cheapest and least powerful of the three desktop AMD64 processor designs, but it still uses the same instruction set and architecture. The Athlon 64 does not support multi-CPU configurations, ECC RAM, and it has a 64-bit wide memory controller on-die instead of a 128-bit wide controller like the others; this means that the theoretical memory bandwidth is half (3.2 GB/sec) of what the Opteron and Athlon 64-FX can do (6.4 GB/sec).

Keep in mind they don't mention Socket 939 A64s, which ARE dual channel (128-bit bus) capable. So, that means performance is likely to be equal between a single Opteron VS 939 A64.

http://www.thejemreport.com/news_index41.html
 
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