When Orthos errors out?

[Gophermofur]

When Orthos, Prime95 and other similar programs errors out... is it always a result of too little voltage?

I often see guides that say: if orthos crashes, you need to up the voltage. Which I can totally understand for most/many scenarios. However, can temperature ever be the culprit of orthos failing?

If your system is 70 degrees at load, could that be the reason Orthos skipped a beat and failed the test? In which case better cooling is the solution, rather than more voltage?

It's funny a few years ago when I was still in my teens, I read a couple articles about overclocking and thought I knew what I was doing. Now the more I read, the more I realize I know so very little about all this stuff

TIY,
Mo

 

[SerpentRoyal]

RAM, CPU, MB, chipset, and PSU...they all affect stability.

 

[mrlithium]

70C is in the red zone for causing instability. never run at 70C. simple as that. I'm not gonna say you're gonna burn your chip out, cause im not a doomsayer, just don't get to the point where you even have to wonder about that. 70C will decrease the lifespan of your chip significantly. Yea, your orthos probably crashed from heat. Download the Intel Themal analysis tool (TAT). It will simulate 100% CPU load and heat your chip up in a matter of minutes. Typically 7-8 minutes is enough to reach your peak temp. If it reaches 70C STOP IT IMMEEEEEDIATELY and cut your voltage back and re-test until your max peak is no more than 64-65. other people say 65 is too high but its ok because under normal circumstances the temp won't even reach that even under 100% load. the TAT creates 100% synthetic heat-generating load. Once you install the TR 120 Extreme this 64-65c peak will be cut down to like 45-46-47C and you can proceed to re-increase voltages to hit your best OC

 

[SerpentRoyal]

70C is too hot with 85C Tjunction chip. The rule is to keep max CPU temp 20 to 25C below Tjunction under Coretemp 0.95.

 

[Gophermofur]

Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
70C is too hot with 85C Tjunction chip. The rule is to keep max CPU temp 20 to 25C below Tjunction under Coretemp 0.95.

IIRC the Tjunction temps for all the G0 chips are 100 degrees, correct?
On intel's 6850 spec sheet (6850 Specs) the thermal specs for all of these chips say 70-ish degrees.

For all of the other chips that are Tjunction 85 degrees, the thermal spec says: 65 degrees

Where does the e4500 M0 fall? From what Serpent mentions, it is a chip with a max Tjunction of 85 degrees, but the Thermal Spec says: 70 degrees, which is typically found on the 100 degree Tjunction chips. (e4500 Specs)

1. Which one do I follow? Do I assume 70 degrees is the max, or 60 degrees?
2. Is there any correlation between TJunction and Thermal Spec listed on intels site?

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Tjunction for the Quads and many newer E4x00 is 100C.

 

[mrlithium]

Tjunction is 100C and you can hit 75C but any higher than that and you're gonna toast it. Keep it under 70, in reality you dont want to be running at 70 if you can avoid it but thats the kind of red zone if there was such a thing. Get the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme