Where are the price cuts?

[Ventanni]

If anything, I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia raised their prices due to demand > supply.

 

[Despoiler]

If anything, I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia raised their prices due to demand > supply.

The retailers generally do that.

As far as the AMD price cut, it's entirely possible it doesn't get cut. I read somewhere that the biggest reason for the $550 price point on the 7970 was that general consumers equate the most expensive as the best. AMD saw that even though their 5XXX and 6XXX series was a) out first and b) competitive that buyers viewed them as inferior simply because they were cheaper.

 

[Lonbjerg]

The retailers generally do that.

As far as the AMD price cut, it's entirely possible it doesn't get cut. I read somewhere that the biggest reason for the $550 price point on the 7970 was that general consumers equate the most expensive as the best. AMD saw that even though their 5XXX and 6XXX series was a) out first and b) competitive that buyers viewed them as inferior simply because they were cheaper.

You should look into TMSC's 28 nm pricing before using guesswork as a "foundation" for anything *hint-hint*

 

[blastingcap]

If anything, I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia raised their prices due to demand > supply.

No. Raising prices would be "bad mojo," in the words of JHH. I doubt JHH would change the policy now, especially since NV will probably make more money than they anticipated anyway... they probably figured it'd sell for $350 or something up until a few months ago, so $500 means $150 of pure additional profit beyond their expectations.

Plus a lower price is good PR and grabs back market share that they lost in the 4870 to 6970 era (2009-2011)... NV used to dominate the market much more so than they did from 2009-2011, so they are probably unhappy that they let AMD gain so much market share. You want to dominate market share, mindspace, etc. and preserve that brand power as long as it reasonable to do so.

Full quote:

Huang flatly denied his company would raise prices, however. "There is no such thing as raising prices when demand is high," he said. "That's just bad mojo, man. You don't want to go there."

 

[BallaTheFeared]

New AMD CEO: We Need to Become Predators

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Predator-Rory-Read-CEO-employee-address-Radeon,13333.html

If AMD are the Predators, then logically you the consumers are the prey.

 

[blastingcap]

New AMD CEO: We Need to Become Predators

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Predator-Rory-Read-CEO-employee-address-Radeon,13333.html

If AMD are the Predators, then logically you the consumers are the prey.

I don't know if you are intentionally trolling or if it is so inconceivable for you to think that AMD wants to prey on NVIDIA's profits and market share.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

I don't know if you are intentionally trolling or if it is so inconceivable for you to think that AMD wants to prey on NVIDIA's profits and market share.

"We can be the leaders, we don't need to look left or right"

"Weheve' gotta become the hunters. We have to look forward. We have to attack the hill."

So a $280 bulldozer product, and $550-$600 7970 product screams market share growth and cutting into Nvidia/Intel profits to you?

Did you forget both those competing product lines & price brackets have superior products from the other camps respectively, both of which have more brand recognition?


You set your goals, you don't look left or right, you attack the hill while ignoring everything around you... My thought here is that the hill is the consumers, why would they be attacking and ignoring their direct competitors if they're attacking them.. Further more why is another analogy of a third vantage used to represent a third area/group (left Intel, right Nvidia) if not to represent the consumer (hill)?

You ignore Intel, you overprice bulldozer. You ignore Nvidia, you overprice your 28nm GPUs launching the worst price/performance full node swing we've ever seen. You attack the consumers, gouge them at will, feed off their loyalty, devour their wallets - be the hunter.

 

[Atreidin]

"We can be the leaders, we don't need to look left or right"

"Weheve' gotta become the hunters. We have to look forward. We have to attack the hill."

So a $280 bulldozer product, and $550-$600 7970 product screams market share growth and cutting into Nvidia/Intel profits to you?

Did you forget both those competing product lines & price brackets have superior products from the other camps respectively, both of which have more brand recognition?


You set your goals, you don't look left or right, you attack the hill while ignoring everything around you... My thought here is that the hill is the consumers, why would they be attacking and ignoring their direct competitors if they're attacking them.. Further more why is another analogy of a third vantage used to represent a third area/group (left Intel, right Nvidia) if not to represent the consumer (hill)?

You ignore Intel, you overprice bulldozer. You ignore Nvidia, you overprice your 28nm GPUs launching the worst price/performance full node swing we've ever seen. You attack the consumers, gouge them at will, feed off their loyalty, devour their wallets - be the hunter.

Please pass what you are smoking. You have taken far too many hits.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

New AMD CEO: We Need to Become Predators

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Predator-Rory-Read-CEO-employee-address-Radeon,13333.html

If AMD are the Predators, then logically you the consumers are the prey.

-That's the best thing I've heard in years out of AMD. Hopefully they will actually try to be competitive with their major competitors instead of trying to fill in the cracks. I want to see AMD push out a monolithic die and take on Nvidia's big dies like the old days. GPUs are seriously the only interesting component left in modern computers.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Just my thought process, if you don't agree with it that's fine, but is it still ok for me to have my own?

If not please upload yours so I can assimilate.

 

[vailr]

Maybe some nVidia cards will finally get mini display ports?

 

[dynaboom]

Price cuts have hit the gtx 580 in the past few weeks, you can now find these in the high $300s. As others here have said, price cuts will spread more once the gtx 680 supply catches up with demand. Those who want to save $$$ simply have to be patient.

 

[Lonbjerg]

New AMD CEO: We Need to Become Predators

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Predator-Rory-Read-CEO-employee-address-Radeon,13333.html

If AMD are the Predators, then logically you the consumers are the prey.

Talk is cheap...I want to see it before I believe it.

 

[railven]

"We can be the leaders, we don't need to look left or right"

"Weheve' gotta become the hunters. We have to look forward. We have to attack the hill."

So a $280 bulldozer product, and $550-$600 7970 product screams market share growth and cutting into Nvidia/Intel profits to you?

Did you forget both those competing product lines & price brackets have superior products from the other camps respectively, both of which have more brand recognition?


You set your goals, you don't look left or right, you attack the hill while ignoring everything around you... My thought here is that the hill is the consumers, why would they be attacking and ignoring their direct competitors if they're attacking them.. Further more why is another analogy of a third vantage used to represent a third area/group (left Intel, right Nvidia) if not to represent the consumer (hill)?

You ignore Intel, you overprice bulldozer. You ignore Nvidia, you overprice your 28nm GPUs launching the worst price/performance full node swing we've ever seen. You attack the consumers, gouge them at will, feed off their loyalty, devour their wallets - be the hunter.

Why do you post that here and then ask over at ABT if it is infraction worthy?

http://alienbabeltech.com/abt/viewtopic.php?p=61730#p61730

It's these kind of actions that make me think of this kind of post as nothing more than trolling (even though I agree with your sarcastic analogy.)

I don't get why some of you guys post here, then run over to ABT and start marching to a different tune? If you don't like posting here, no one is forcing you too. Seriously.

 

[Jionix]

AMD probably won't until they see a significant loss of sales.

With yields lower than expected, supply is an issue for Nvidia. They have only released one card of their new line.. One card. AMD has their full 28nm line up released.

If Nvidia can't supply the cards, why make a pricing move?

 

[BlockheadBrown]

If anything, I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia raised their prices due to demand > supply.

Arguably, they have. The "680" was rumored to be the 560 or 570 replacement, IIRC. It measured so well against AMD's flagship that Nvidia just priced and renamed the part accordingly.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Why do you post that here and then ask over at ABT if it is infraction worthy?

http://alienbabeltech.com/abt/viewtopic.php?p=61730#p61730

It's these kind of actions that make me think of this kind of post as nothing more than trolling (even though I agree with your sarcastic analogy.)

I don't get why some of you guys post here, then run over to ABT and start marching to a different tune? If you don't like posting here, no one is forcing you too. Seriously.

Not really a topic of discussion for this thread, but I think you already knew that.

 

[railven]

Not really a topic of discussion for this thread, but I think you already knew that.

You're correct, my apologies - I'll follow the proper avenues.

EDIT: ..Sigh...now I'm a shill to for trying to keep things at least relevant to our forums... THanks guy, you got class.

http://alienbabeltech.com/abt/viewtopic.php?p=61763#p61763

 

[Will Robinson]

Why do you post that here and then ask over at ABT if it is infraction worthy?

http://alienbabeltech.com/abt/viewtopic.php?p=61730#p61730

It's these kind of actions that make me think of this kind of post as nothing more than trolling (even though I agree with your sarcastic analogy.)

I don't get why some of you guys post here, then run over to ABT and start marching to a different tune? If you don't like posting here, no one is forcing you too. Seriously.

Read that thread....why is RolloTheFeared still allowed here
That little bitch clan they have got going over at Alien Baby Tech is pathetic.


If you want to take potshots at people for stuff they do here, there, anywhere...then do it on your own blog or your own forum or another forum that let's its members post like that in their technical forums.

But here on the AnandTech Forums, this subforum is about video cards and we expect the discussions in this subforum to be about video cards, not about dissecting the reasons people talk about video cards or each other.

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[Tempered81]

529

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161399

 

[Lyfer]

No price cuts to be seen here kids. Now let's move along.

 

[blastingcap]

529

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161399

Should be 429. Worse power draw, no better than equal, worse at multi-GPU Eyefinity despite the extra VRAM, no CUDA/PhysX, no GPU Boost, no Adaptive Vsync, no way to get Eyefinity without displayport, no Bezel Peek, and no EVGA lifetime warranty.

 

[AtenRa]

529

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161399

This is interesting,

Yesterday i was looking in the egg for the GTX680, every card was sold out. When i checked the HD7970 they had every one ready for shipping.

If they have a lot of HD7970 in stock and they cant sell them i believe they will lower the price $20-30 or even more. GTX680 availability looks horrific at the moment, if HD7970 drop bellow $499 it will sell well.

That could actually start a mild price war in April-June when GTX680 availability will get better.

 

[Lonbjerg]

This is interesting,

Yesterday i was looking in the egg for the GTX680, every card was sold out. When i checked the HD7970 they had every one ready for shipping.

If they have a lot of HD7970 in stock and they cant sell them i believe they will lower the price $20-30 or even more. GTX680 availability looks horrific at the moment, if HD7970 drop bellow $499 it will sell well.

That could actually start a mild price war in April-June when GTX680 availability will get better.

The availability of GTX680 is no worse or better than most GPU launches the last many years...try searching the forum...buisness as usual.

 

[azeem40]

I am done waiting for anything at this point.