I got the PNY for 185 bucks (as a get me by card) while i was waiting for the X800 XL to come out and i love it. I get 92 FPS in CSS and found no reason to upgrade at this time. Overclocks good; nTune puts me at 560/1200 I toned it down a bit just because I'm running it passively cooled and i don't want to push it to much.