Which Linux is better?

sinunbeso

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I want to try Linux but don't know which distribution is better. Some folks told me Red Hat was the king and some told me Mandrake is what to go for. Can anyone tell me a little about this? What do you guys use?
Thanks!
 

ToyMachine

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never tried red hat cause im soo new... since im so new though i will tell you that so far mandrake has been a sweet operating system...it has GREAT documentation and support, great packages such as servers, networking stuff, multimedia apps, lots of games, Open GL support WOOHOO, and a good assortment of other stuff.
 

CraZCaM

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Go with mandrake since your new. -Should be able to download the latest release from the Web. Great step by step GUI install.
Good luck!
 

Mitzi

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SuSE linux is also very good - detects all my hardware without problem.
 

sinunbeso

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Thanks, guys. I downloaded the iso's of Mandrake 8.1 from their websites. I am gonna do the installation tomorrow. I am joining the Linux world, yeah!
 

fow99

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Sounds like you are a newbie -- just like me. I just tried Sus3 7.3 LiveEval and it is a truly awesome desktop choice. Give it a try.
 

FOBSIDE

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mandrake uses KDE as the default windows manager which i dont like as much. id go with redhat and then install Ximian. ive been raving about this for a little while now. you can check out more for yourself at ximian.org. its a very impressive set of programs which makes it easy to manage packages.
 

n0cmonkey

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<< mandrake uses KDE as the default windows manager which i dont like as much. id go with redhat and then install Ximian. ive been raving about this for a little while now. you can check out more for yourself at ximian.org. its a very impressive set of programs which makes it easy to manage packages. >>



Dont bother with that advice exactly. Try them all. I have tried KDE 1.x and it was ok. I tried an old gnome, and it sucked. I havent tried ximian. I have tried a newer gnome, and it wasnt bad. KDE 2.2 looked pretty sweet I just never really had the time to mess with it. After all of that I decided on blackbox. Since Windows is not an operating system that helps me work I decided to get away from work-a-likes and it increased my productivity quite a bit. All Im saying is play with everything. Its worth it.
 

pedrog

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I recently helped a friend install RedHat and Mandrake.

They are both very good and relatively easy to install. I prefered RH7.2 over Mandrake8.1 for very minor reasons (can't even remember now - maybe it was anaconda?)
You could probably choose any distro as long as you take your time and ask questions when you're not sure what to do.
Be sure and read up a bit on disk partioning if you won't have web access while you do the install. That is probably the most confusing part of the install.

Good luck

-Pedro
 

jose

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Go to www.cheapbytes.com they sell RH7.2 for ~$6

I like RH because it has a lot of commercial support. ie . Unify RDBMS

You'll notice that once you get used to a distribution you'll tend to stick w/
that dist. mainly because most of the curr. dist. do some thing or other just
a little diff. . Also you'll notice a lot of 3rd party drivers claiming RH support.

Regards
Jose
 

kylef

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In my opinion, there are some serious flaws with all of them. I've installed Mandrake 8.1 on two different desktop machines and a laptop, and each one has some sort of weird problem with aliasing /dev/cdrom to the correct device. (And I'm talking standard ATAPI hardware here, all IDE!) I knew how to fix that problem with the older 2.2 kernels, but the new "devfs" crap, which isn't documented well at all, has changed the way everything works and I can't manually fix the aliasing problem. I have to manually configure all of my programs to point to the exact disk controller that my cdrom drive resides on because the link is broken. Do you think a newbie would be knowledgeable enough to fix a problem like that?

Then there are just a huge list of annoyances that, quite frankly, would NEVER exist on Windows.

I'll give you another example. I wanted to figure out one day why my Xmms was not synchronizing its graphic equalizer display properly with the music that was coming through my sound card. After playing with it for a while, I found a bunch of other problems. For example, if I held the left mouse button down (such as when I'm dragging a window around on my screen) for more than about 5 seconds, sound output stops completely! When I let the mouse button up again, it will resume. Very quirky behavior. I decided that it had to do with the way xmms sends the sound signal through this program called "artsd", or alternatively on some other systems, "esd". I didn't know what this program did at the time, so I typed "man artsd" to try to figure out what it did. The response I got was "no manual entry for artsd". At that point, I gave up. It just wasn't worth fixing. I don't want to go on a wild goose chase just to find a manual entry to some program that I didn't even want to use in the first place.

There are COUNTLESS problems like this that have cropped up on my systems. I don't have the space to name them all here. Things that are supposed to work don't. SMB access through Konqueror, for instance, doesn't work as advertised. Xemacs refuses to change font faces or sizes, bombing out with some error like "wrong type argument: number-char-or-marker-p, nil". The SAME version of Xemacs running with the SAME .emacs file works perfectly on my Solaris box and a FreeBSD box.

If you really want to learn and use a Unix, I'd seriously consider one of the *BSD variants, like FreeBSD or OpenBSD. In my opinion, once you get familiar with the command line utilities and startup scripts, you'll never turn back to the buggy GUI interfaces that seem to be the only allure of Linux. With the single exception, perhaps, of Java support, which is quite lacking on *BSDs.
 

Nothinman

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I knew how to fix that problem with the older 2.2 kernels, but the new "devfs" crap, which isn't documented well at all, has changed the way everything works and I can't manually fix the aliasing problem.

devfs=nomount passed to the kernel should not mount /dev and allow you to use the old /dev (assuming it's populated in Mandrake)

I don't want to go on a wild goose chase just to find a manual entry to some program that I didn't even want to use in the first place.

Those daemons are neede for some sound cards because not all sound drivers allow multiple processes to use /dev/dsp at once, so the first process to play a sound (and if it doesn't close dsp right after it's done, like xmms) would be the only app playing sound.

If these problems both you so much why don't you submit bug reports? If you feel it's not worth your time to tell the developers your feelings that's fine but don't whine when things you feel are wrong don't get fixed.
 

EHobaX

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I've installed/used both of them recently.
Mandrake is good for those just starting out in the Linux world b/c it has just about
everything you need software-wise. It has pretty good hardware detection.
However, the Xwindows clients run a lot slower than other flavors of linux I've used. Which makes me
wonder if it's any better than windows...

RH is great. The only thing is it really doesn't come w/ the built in apps like Star Office
(or at least I think the 2 CD version doesn't). Granted you maybe to configure a few more
things, but I felt as if I had a little more control over my comp. It also runs pretty damn fast.
 
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