Which Mouse To Go With?

[Yahya]

I'm about to buy a new mouse
I'm not heavy gamer and Mostly use Claw and Fingertip Grips
I've done some researchs and was able to select few choices :
Razer Deathadder Elite
Steelseries Sensei 310
Mionix Castor
Logitech G403

Which one would you recommend?
And is there any better Suggestions?
If i opt to wireless mouse, What mouse would be the best?

Thanks everyone

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[bononos]

I'm only familiar with the G403. The sensor for the wired seems to be alright (same as Pro and G502), not sure if the wireless version uses the same one. The dimensions are more similar to the G400, G402 instead of the smaller G302/3 so that gives an idea if your hands can fit the mouse for your desired grip.

http://www.overclock.net/t/854100/gaming-mouse-sensor-list

 

[DigDog]

if you go wireless, i would recommend you ONLY look at the latest Logitechs, as all other wireless mice are garbage. the mice you have listed are palm mice, not claw or finger. what games is it that you play?

 

[DigDog]

ok, thank you for the "like" but, i need to know what games you play, so i can tell you what type of mouse you should get. there's difference in comfort, weight, buttons, sensor response, software. every typoligy also have weight; for example, if you play Overwatch, you will want a lightweight FPS mouse, if you play CS, you will want a heavier FPS mouse. If you play DOTA, you will want a Corsair whatsisname. If you play Quake, you will want a G302. and so on.

 

[Yahya]

Actually i don't play any of these games
I'm kind of an occasional gamer
I may play prince of Persia, Deus Ex, AVP, FEAR, Sniper Ghost Warrior and some other classics

I mostly use a mouse for (general desktop) rather than gaming

All i need is a reliable and comfortable mouse with high DPI and no issues

Thank You So Much

 

[DigDog]

most modern mice do not have issues.
high DPI is irrelevant. There is no benefit from having 3000 DPI over 800 DPI.

many many years ago, when mice had a ball inside them, they would do 400 counts per inch of travel. since printing was a large business back then, they used the term DOTS Per Inch because printers use to have dots (more dots = smaller and more defined font). today we prefer CPI to DPI but the guys in marketing still haven't figured out this and are afraid they will lose sales if they sell a mouse with 1600 CPI.

now, 400 CPI is not a lot. in some cases, you could say that if you divide one inch of desk into 400 separate dots, the dots wouldn't look like a straight line. So maybe reeeeally small mouse movements could be lost. So someone decided to make a sensor with 800! CPI which was twice as good!

Aaand then they got carried away. Since marketing is all about happiness https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyKwzpx-CWo then people understood that more CPI = more good.

Now, if you *do* have ridiculously large desktop resolutions (mostly from people who use multiple monitors as one large panorama), then a 400 CPI mouse could be a bit too slow.

NOW mk.2, the mouse being slow is again irrelevant. Windows has a multiplier under Mouse (control panel) https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffe...ere_is_how_to_get_the_most_out_of_your_mouse/ or https://superuser.com/questions/1135163/more-precise-windows-sensitivity-multiplier that allows you to transform those 400 DPI into 1300 DPI of movement. However, since it's just a multiplier, you can only really move in groups of 3 dots. So, if you move 1 dot, windows moves you by 3 pixels.

Competitive gaming had A LOT to do with mice getting higher CPI, because CS 1.6 players and Quake 3 players were getting pissed off at mice not being able to do high resolution screens together with small movements of the mouse on-screen.

So, more CPI allows for finer movement.

How finer? Here is the catch. 1600 CPI will allow you, at modern resolutions, to have the Windows multiplier set to 1 and move effortlessly and with perfect smoothness. In fact, most modern high-skill FPS players will set the mouse to the NATIVE setting of its sensor, and then adjust DOWN the multiplier. So, if your sensor is 1600, you might want to set the multiplier to HALF (0.5). And 800 CPI is really all you should need.

Also, if your mouse has a NATIVE setting of more than 1600, i would avoid it altogether. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc7JVjcPzL0

i better get some internet points for this post.

Now, back to you. Since you play mostly casual games, i suggest you grab one of the newer wireless Logitech mice. The new Lightspeed series is a masterpiece. I've had my ass whopped by people using the G603 in QuakeLive and in that game, people don't mess around. It's also comfortable and has 3 extra buttons.
You *could* go with a MOBA mouse, but i personally cannot recommend having so many side buttons, as you could easily click the wrong one. If you are on a budget, then you could consider the G403.

There are MANY other mice that work well on the market. Go back 5 years, and your choice was limited to maybe 10 models. Today, hundreds. Finding a mouse with a shape that fits your hand will take you a few years and many mice, and there is no way around that.
Finally, bookmark this channel and watch some of its videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7zEC8Ha02o

 

[Yahya]

^^^
The Lightspeeds Are Quite Pricey
If You Could Recommend Me A Cheaper Alternatives (Wired and Wireless)?

 

[DigDog]

wireless, no. i recommend the lightspeed because, until now, wireless has been pretty much garbage. you could look at the Corsair M65. it has plenty of buttons, but not so many that you don't know what you are pressing. It has a perfect sensor, medium body, and it's relatively cheap. they also make the Harpoon which is also nice, and the Sabre, but i think that's a bit more expensive.
see ... http://www.rocketjumpninja.com/top-40/
better mice are expensive. not because they are better, but because the people that sell them KNOW that they are better. it takes the same amount of money and resources to build a great mouse and a shit mouse, but until the prototypes are coming off the assembly line, you won't know if you have designed a good or a shit mouse.
There's cases where two different mouse models that have THE SAME SENSOR and they behave differently, drastically.
So, once it's off the assembly line, they test it, and if it's good, UP goes the price.

 

[Yahya]

Thank you so much
I ordered the DAE and it's on its way
I'll update when it arrives

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