Which PC would you want?

XeoBllaze

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Rig #1:

A64 3200+
MSI KT800 mobo
512MB DDR PC3700
80GB 7200 WD
9800pro 128MB


-----[ or ]----

Rig #2:

INTEL 2.8C
Chaintech 9PJL mobo
1GB DDR PC3700
80GB 7200 WD
9800pro 128MB


~And atleast give your reason(s) why!



 

Nebor

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The A64 because it's a shiny new toy. The cutting edge is a fun place to be. Although I have no idea why you'd want to put PC3700 in it... that's a waste, you can't take advantage of RAM that fast w/ the a64 as far as I know.
 

microAmp

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I would probably choose the AMD system, but I would quickly push it up to 1GB of RAM. I need 1GB for SWG, I don't wait to have 5 minute load times between cities.
 

ProviaFan

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Originally posted by: sandorski
#1, except I'd go for slower ram and gig up on it.
Affirmative.

Alternately, you could try to overclock the P4 setup (and probably get good results), but I'm not much of an overclocker and I also happen to want to give 64 bit Linux a try, so I'd go with #1.
 

arcenite

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As an AMD fan, to be more futureproof, if You can get a gig of memory in #1, then go for it..

Bill
 

IQJUMPuw

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What kind of RAM will go well with the A64 setup? What do you mean "Although I have no idea why you'd want to put PC3700 in it... that's a waste, you can't take advantage of RAM that fast w/ the a64 as far as I know." A64 doesn't accept fast DDR RAMS

Thanks!
 

Regs

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#1. Amd's chip is a hell of a lot more innovative then the 2.8c. It holds a lot of promise for the future.



Originally posted by: IQJUMPuw
What kind of RAM will go well with the A64 setup? What do you mean "Although I have no idea why you'd want to put PC3700 in it... that's a waste, you can't take advantage of RAM that fast w/ the a64 as far as I know." A64 doesn't accept fast DDR RAMS

Thanks!

I think PC3500 will be best for now and for the future. PC3200 would be the minimal compliance. And I can agree with you that running you RAM a-sync on a AMD set up is pointless.
 

DaveSimmons

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Neither -- I don't bother to OC so PC3700 is a waste of money.

If a website were giving both away, I'd get the A64 for shiny-newness despite the bleeding edgedness

Buying for myself, my next system will probably be (after the Oct 26 P4 price drop):
P4 3.0C or 3.2C (at $4xx a 3.2 is finally worth considering)
Asus P4C800-E
1 GB PC3200
9800 pro 128
 

JBT

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Id go option 1 like every one else is saying drop the ram speed and get a little bit more though buffalo sells there 3200 and 3700 only 15 bucks a peice.
 

Nebor

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I dont believe the A64 clocks up high enough to take advantage of PC3700, does it?
 

T8000

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I would go for option 2, because it is far more stable than an AMD solution, even more if that AMD solution is based on a VIA chipset.

The second reason is speed, as the P4 offers far better response times thanks to Hyperthreading, and game performance is even between the two.

And the third and last reason is price, as the P4 retails for about half the price of an A64, while still offering superior stability and performance.
 

ProviaFan

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Originally posted by: T8000
I would go for option 2, because it is far more stable than an AMD solution, even more if that AMD solution is based on a VIA chipset.
VIA chipsets had their problems, but they're not as bad as you'd like them to be. I have an AMD Duron running on a KT133A board, with uptimes that regularly reach the month unit before being destroyed by the necessity of installing whatever latest patch just came out from Microsoft. My Athlon XP + Nforce2 system, which I use more frequently, is currently going strong after 23 days of uptime, but must be rebooted later today to install some more patches from MS.

Now, I could see your point if you were comparing an AMD/Via system with Windows 98 vs. an Intel/Intel system with Windows XP Pro + SP1, but that's certainly not a fair comparison. Not to mention that comparing AMD vs. Intel with the same OS and claiming to see these huge differences in relative stability between the two shows the world that you're full of it.

Yes, Intel has some advantages (media encoding for one), and AMD has other advantages, but don't go making up BS to promote the platform that you happen to be a fanboy of.
The second reason is speed, as the P4 offers far better response times thanks to Hyperthreading, and game performance is even between the two.
"Far better"? Yeah right. I suppose to someone who is predestined to like the Intel solution over the AMD solution (i.e. an Intel fanboy) there would be a huge difference. To an AMD fanboy, the AMD processor would kill the Intel in all areas. A reasonably unbiased person would see the strengths and weaknesses of each platform, but would recognize that there is not some "far better" difference between the "response times" of one and that of the other.
And the third and last reason is price, as the P4 retails for about half the price of an A64, while still offering superior stability and performance.
P4 vs. AMD64 could be argued in favor of the P4 on price, but your far "superior" stability and performance claims are rediculous.
 
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