Whick LCD

[fstime]

Hi, I am stuck between this two monitors,

First this viewsonic with 8ms, its 17 inches and has DVI.

http://www.newegg.com/app/view...=24-116-276&depa=1

Then there is this BenQ which is 16 ms, this however is a 19 inch monitor which also has DVI.

http://www.newegg.com/app/View...=24-014-063&depa=0

I'm stuck between the two, they are both good monitors with good reviews, especialy the viewsonic, but is there much of a differance from 16 ms to 8 ms and is 8 ms worth geting the smaller monitor? I play games a lot so that is a factor, thanks.

EDIT: I am usure of the BenQ refresh rate but its most likly 75hz, the viewsonic I am sure does 75hz @ 1280.

 

[fstime]

BUMP, anyone?

 

[JBT]

I'd personally rather have the size. the 2001FP that I have is suppose to be 16ms and I don't see any ghosting what so ever.

 

[Slappy00]

yah you wont notice much of any ghosting below 16, unless you are looking for it

 

[SynthDude2001]

Originally posted by: JBT
I'd personally rather have the size. the 2001FP that I have is suppose to be 16ms and I don't see any ghosting what so ever.

Originally posted by: Slappy00
yah you wont notice much of any ghosting below 16, unless you are looking for it

I don't know that I'm looking for it as much as it's impossible not to notice on this 2001FP I'm using...

 

[bunnyfubbles]

I don't care for size unless it offers more. The 2001 does offer a higher resolution with 1600x1200, whereas 17" and 19" both are 1280x1024...

Contrast, brightness, and viewing angle are all better on the Viewsonic, not to mention its cheaper to boot. I'd definatlely go with with the 8ms 17".

Oh yeah, and I also noticed you can rotate the screen...

No real reason to go 19" unless you have bad eyes and/or refuse to wear glasses/contacts.

 

[JBT]

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001

Originally posted by: JBT
I'd personally rather have the size. the 2001FP that I have is suppose to be 16ms and I don't see any ghosting what so ever.

Originally posted by: Slappy00
yah you wont notice much of any ghosting below 16, unless you are looking for it

I don't know that I'm looking for it as much as it's impossible not to notice on this 2001FP I'm using...

weird you're the first person I have EVER seen saying that thier 2001FP has ghosting problems.

 

[SynthDude2001]

Originally posted by: JBT

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001

Originally posted by: JBT
I'd personally rather have the size. the 2001FP that I have is suppose to be 16ms and I don't see any ghosting what so ever.

Originally posted by: Slappy00
yah you wont notice much of any ghosting below 16, unless you are looking for it

I don't know that I'm looking for it as much as it's impossible not to notice on this 2001FP I'm using...

weird you're the first person I have EVER seen saying that thier 2001FP has ghosting problems.

It's actually my brother's monitor, but yeah...I was surprised to say the least, considering all the praise I'd read of the monitor.

My brother claims not to notice it though....maybe he really doesn't and I just have impossibly high standards or something. I don't know. I've ordered the 2005FP and I'm hoping it's better...I just have a hard time spending $600 on something that doesn't really impress me.

 

[Jeffyboy]

I wouldn't be stuck on ms personally. Usually the rating is to switch from grey to grey, not black to white. Also, you'd have to see the monitor in action really. Might be beneficial to purchase the monitor from where you can get an extended warranty and performance insurance for peace of mind. The Dell 2005FP is really good... I am impressed. Get a 19" Benq. Larger and easier to view... no tto mention u can say you have 19 inches ;-)

Jeff

 

[Jeffyboy]

I play Quake on my wide screen. Wow... the extra width takes a little getting used to ... at first your whole world is spinning around you in your peripheral vision... then ya' get used to it after a while. I admit.. the wide screen is way cool. Bright too. The Benq monitors have come a long way. Also Benq has an 8ms 17"er as well and probably cheaper. Great for games by the way. My older 1850E NEC 18" LCD monitor was good for quake3 also.

I think this ms rating is kind of like power ratings on audio AMPs. Some manufacturers put a slant on the values. Insead of RMS power... some give peak power. Personally... I'm too chicken to buy an LCD without seeing it first.

Jeff

 

[fstime]

Anyone else?

 

[nitromullet]

I vote for the 2005FPW as well. I got one of these suckers, and I am very happy with it. The repsonse time is certainly not that of a CRT, but it's doesn't ghost and the image is extremely clear. Someone mentioned viewing angle with regards to the Viewsonic, which is really the only place that I think the 2005FPW could be improved. I actually, believe that most of the backlighting complaints are actually because of the viewing angle. If you look at it dead on, it looks great, but of you move too far to the sides or up/down, the image is washed out because you are outside of the viewable angle. if the 2005FPW was a widescreen TV in a living room, the viewing angle would not be large enough IMO, but since I primary view my monitor from a seated position in front of the computer desk, this isn't an issue for me.

...then again, the 20" Dells are both a bit more pricey than the two monitors you are comparing. Even after some of the sweet deals that can be had from Dell.

 

[fstime]

Why the hell is everyone talking about the DELL 2001 and DELL 2005, THIS THREAD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM!!!, read my first post please. THe dell monitors are way out of my price range, I just want to know what everyone would choose from these 2 monitors.

 

[gusk1200]

I would go with the Viewsonic. I heard that the Benq is slightly cheap in manufacturing. So the silver coloring is easily scratched. Plus viewsonic I think has a longer warranty. The size doesn't matter. 17" is plenty I think. Remember, most 19" CRT's only have 18" viewable.

 

[Trizzay]

Bou - I'm also very interested in that Viewsonic VP171B that you have listed. I actually called newegg today, because there is some confusion on which monitor they are actually selling.

There are two versions of this monitor. The older one, which is the VP171B and has a 16ms response time. The newer version is the VP171B-2, and it has the 8ms panel. I have confirmed this by talking to someone from Viewsonic earlier today. In newegg's description, they say it is an 8ms panel, but the model # they have listed is for the old version. I spoke with someone from Newegg this morning who was also confused about this, and she said she is going to try to get some more information and call me back sometime today. I'll let you know what I find out.

I've also got a thread on here that has some more information on this. http://forums.anandtech.com/me...6995&enterthread=y

 

[fstime]

I also noticed this in the reviews, some people said it was a 16 ms monitor, the BenQ I have comfirmed has 77 HZ @ 1280 res and has a 1 yr warranty with newegg and a 3 yr warranty with the manufacture.

 

[fstime]

I'm going with the Viewsonic IF I can get a 8ms version.

 

[zephyrprime]

Just wait a little bit. The Hyundai L90D+ will be available in the US pretty soon and it wil be 19" and 8ms.

 

[fstime]

Yes but 350 is my price limit and these are the best monitors for the price both offering DVI, <16ms, and 75 HZ.

 

[Trizzay]

I still haven't gotten a response from Newegg, so i would hold off on ordering from them. I did get another reply from Viewsonic, because I asked what the easiest way is of determining if the monitor is the VP171B or VP171B-2. Here is what they said:

Dear Valued Customer,

Thank you for contacting ViewSonic Technical Support.

A lot of the time, information can conflict, especially on websites. This is because
most of the time, info is just copied over to the new version, overlooking details.
There is no immediate way to tell the difference. The only way would be by the
"Model Number", which is located on both the box and back of the monitor
itself.

VP171B-1 Model Number= VLCDS25972-3W
VP171B-2 Model Number= VLCDS25972-4W

Hopefully this will help

Chris S.

Regards,

ViewSonic Technical Support
ViewSonic Corporation
381 Brea Canyon Road
Walnut, CA 91789

 

[fstime]

Guess i'll go with with the BenQ then since I wont know which version i'm geting from newegg.

 

[Trizzay]

I think I'm going to order the Viewsonic, but from Dell. They have it right now for $348. Their description says it is a 16ms panel, but the manufacture's part # listed is the VP171B-2. I'm hoping that they just copied over the description from the previous model they had, but updated the part #. I've talked to a few people from Dell today but none were able to give me a clear answer.

I'll probably try Dell one more time tomorrow, to see if I can get a better answer. Otherwise I figure if they send me the plain VP171, then I would have a good reason to just RMA it, in case their is a bad pixel or something.

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: BouZouki
Why the hell is everyone talking about the DELL 2001 and DELL 2005, THIS THREAD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM!!!, read my first post please. THe dell monitors are way out of my price range, I just want to know what everyone would choose from these 2 monitors.

I read your first post, and I didn't notice a price cap... Someone else had mentioned the Dells and they are nice screens, so maybe we're just trying to offer addiitonal suggestions. Additionally, even after the Dells were mentioned, you seemed to want more feedback.

Anyone else?

No reason to get all bunched up.

I think I'm going to order the Viewsonic, but from Dell. They have it right now for $348.

...for what it's worth... I just dealt with Dell, and I would much rather deal with newegg. You might pay a little extra with newegg, but IMO it's worth it not to have to deal with Dell if you have any issues. Dell service doesn't exactly suck, but it did take them 12 business days to get me a replacement monitor when they originally sent me the the wrong one. The only reason I will ever order anything from Dell again is if I want a Dell branded product.

 

[Trizzay]

Originally posted by: nitromullet
...for what it's worth... I just dealt with Dell, and I would much rather deal with newegg. You might pay a little extra with newegg, but IMO it's worth it not to have to deal with Dell if you have any issues. Dell service doesn't exactly suck, but it did take them 12 business days to get me a replacement monitor when they originally sent me the the wrong one. The only reason I will ever order anything from Dell again is if I want a Dell branded product.

Oh, I would much rather deal with newegg but I've already had someone there confirm that they are selling the older version of this monitor. Dell on the other hand lists the new version as the part#, but has the description of the older version. If all things were equal, I would go with newegg....but I'm hoping I luck out and Dell sends me the 8ms model that I'm looking for.

I'm going to try contacting Dell one more time tomorrow morning in the attempt to get a straight answer. I doubt I'll be succesful though.

 

[fstime]

Keep me updated man, i'm not ordering until next week.