Both crossed over into the wrong lane, so both share some blame. But left turner was illegally in the intersection (not behind the cross walk) which forced the bad decision. Left turner gets most of the blame then for not yielding.
Generally, right turner always has the right of way in this case. Also, almost universally the left turner can not legally be in the intersection until the full way is clear. Hanging out in the intersection is highly dangerous (imagine an oncoming car from any direction with failing breaks, the one hanging out there is now dead). Or imagine an emergency vehicle from any direction, the left turner is now blocking it. Thus it is generally illegal to hang out there as a left turner.So if the light is yellow the right turner had right of way and if the light is red the left turner (already in the intersection) has right of way?
Is this universal?
There are cases where a right turner has to turn into a multiple-lane road and then turn left in a very short distance. In most states it is not illegal for a right tuner making a turn into a middle or left lane and a left-turner must yield to that choice. Sorry, but it is illegal for a left-turner to turn concurrently with someone turning right onto a multiple lane road and in the case of an accident the person making the left turn will nearly always get the ticket for failure to yield the right of way. There are exceptions and it all depends on state laws, local roads, and local signs.
I could look up the laws but since i dont know what state it would only be for mine
Laws go state to state. Go to your state's DMV site, but good luck parsing what is written and matching it up to your situation. I thought that collectively, people did a decent job of covering various scenarios, though.
Left turner is at fault. Failed to yield to oncoming traffic.
:thumbsup: This is the correct answer. Right turn driver has the right of way over left turn driver. Left turn driver must yield to oncoming traffic.
Generally, right turner always has the right of way in this case. Also, almost universally the left turner can not legally be in the intersection until the full way is clear. Hanging out in the intersection is highly dangerous (imagine an oncoming car from any direction with failing breaks, the one hanging out there is now dead). Or imagine an emergency vehicle from any direction, the left turner is now blocking it. Thus it is generally illegal to hang out there as a left turner.
The light has turned yellow and two cars turn into adjacent lanes. One makes a right turn and the other makes a left turn. The left-turning car is already in the intersection when the light turns yellow, and is first in line to turn left. The right-turning car is approaching the end of the right-turn lane and may or may not be able to stop in time for the yellow. [/N]The two cars then collide in the process of making the turn as one or both cars cross over into the adjacent lane.
There was no oncoming traffic to the left turn.
They were in the intersection and being the oncoming traffic.
The left turn had to have started before the right turn. The right turn should have noticed the left turn vehicle was already in the intersection. Therefore the left turn was oncoming traffic.
Whichever car crossed the lane is who is at fault.
If you are the right turn car you are supposed to "stay as close as practical to the curb". SO stay in the right lane. If you are the left hand turn....the rule is written annoyingly but basically stay as close to the center line as possible (ie left lane).
Where was anything in the OP stating the left turn was hanging out in the intersection? Did I miss it are assumptions replacing facts?
If anything, a vehicle making a right turn had better be able to stop at the intersection to ensure that it is clear before proceeding. They do not have to, but otherwise they are not diving safely and risk losing control on the turn.
Left turn was in intersection first.There was no oncoming traffic to the left turn.
They were in the intersection and being the oncoming traffic.
The left turn had to have started before the right turn. The right turn should have noticed the left turn vehicle was already in the intersection. Therefore the left turn was oncoming traffic.
Except for the right turn driver. That is the oncoming traffic.
There was no oncoming traffic to the left turn.
They were in the intersection and being the oncoming traffic.
The left turn had to have started before the right turn. The right turn should have noticed the left turn vehicle was already in the intersection. Therefore the left turn was oncoming traffic.
Um, I'm not sure where you learned to drive, but the right turning car IS oncoming traffic to the left turning car.
This.
You guys are fucking geniuses because I can't understand the OP or the picture. Bravo.
Um, I'm not sure where you learned to drive, but the right turning car IS oncoming traffic to the left turning car.
And the left turn was in the intersection prior to the right coming to the intersection. Otherwise, they would not intersect.
The right turn had to be at least 20-30 ft from the cross walk at the time the left turn entered intersection. Left turn was making the turn. Right turn should have seen him as he approached. However. RT was concentrating on making his turn without stopping, ignoring other traffic.
Think about it. The guy turning left had to be there first. He had to cross the intersection before the other guy started turning right. Go get out your matchbox cars, and draw a diagram of such an intersection. Once half way through his turn, the guy turning left had the right of way; the guy turning right would have been just arriving at the intersection.Um, I'm not sure where you learned to drive, but the right turning car IS oncoming traffic to the left turning car.
Think about it. Suppose the car turning right instead just decided to go straight. Bang, the left turning car just turned directly into a car which was legally going straight. The left turning car should yield (out of the intersection) until all oncoming traffic is clear.Think about it. The guy turning left had to be there first. He had to cross the intersection before the other guy started turning right. Go get out your matchbox cars, and draw a diagram of such an intersection. Once half way through his turn, the guy turning left had the right of way; the guy turning right would have been just arriving at the intersection.