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OneOfTheseDays

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The comparisons to Obama and carter were well established.

The debates between patriot Reagan and carter are known history and fact.

Make no mistake and let me clear. Obama got put down like the failed dog his is in an historic moment.

Put your money where your mouth is little girl. $500 bet. You're too chicken-shit to actually back up your talk.
 

Michael

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Nov 19, 1999
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Spidey already put his money where is mouth is in a bet with Perknose. He doesn't owe anyone else a bet.

Michael
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Spidey already put his money where is mouth is in a bet with Perknose. He doesn't owe anyone else a bet.

Michael

Don't forget Ausm and FIrst as well.

I can't go all in without da nuts. I get to pick and choose what libtards to rob.
 
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sportage

Lifer
Feb 1, 2008
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Everyone in the talking head media is still trying to figure out what happened to Obama.
Then it struck me. Maybe he has given up?
I mean, constant travel on the campaign trail certainly must be taking a toll on his family.
And Obama has made his impact.
First black president.
Killed old OB1.
Created Obamacare.
Killed off DADT.
First president to come out for SS marriage.
Etc, etc.

So just maybe he has simply decided to focus on his family and retire to private life?
Its not like he will ever need money.
And if he does, write a book.
And former presidents make a hell of a income giving speeches by invitation.

Every person here, if you were president under these conditions, would at least at one time say to yourself, "who needs it?".
Im rich. I famous. I will go down in history. And I miss my family, my wife, my children, my life. Besides, Im not getting any younger.

If I were Obama, I would maybe, possibly wonder if I have done plenty enough for one guy?
He's only human after all.
I would think that to be very typical human nature.
I bet all of us think that way from time to time in our life, and we are hardly president of the USA.
 
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boomerang

Lifer
Jun 19, 2000
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Everyone in the talking head media is still trying to figure out what happened to Obama.
Then it struck me. Maybe he has given up?
I mean, constant travel on the campaign trail certainly must be taking a toll on his family.
And Obama has made his impact.
First black president.
Killed old OB1.
Created Obamacare.
Killed off DADT.
First president to come out for SS marriage.
Etc, etc.

So just maybe he has simply decided to focus on his family and retire to private life?
Its not like he will ever need money.
And if he does, write a book.
And former presidents make a hell of a income giving speeches by invitation.

Every person here, if you were president under these conditions, would at least at one time say to yourself, "who needs it?".
Im rich. I famous. I will go down in history. And I miss my family, my wife, my children, my life. Besides, Im not getting any younger.

If I were Obama, I would maybe, possibly wonder if I have done plenty enough for one guy?
He's only human after all.
I would think that to be very typical human nature.
I bet all of us think that way from time to time in our life, and we are hardly president of the USA.
Congrats, you've reached the 7th stage of grief - Acceptance.

You left out an accomplishment. He's also our first gay president. Fully in the closet, but gay nonetheless.
 

TerryMathews

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Everyone in the talking head media is still trying to figure out what happened to Obama.
Then it struck me. Maybe he has given up?
I mean, constant travel on the campaign trail certainly must be taking a toll on his family.
And Obama has made his impact.
First black president.
Killed old OB1.
Created Obamacare.
Killed off DADT.
First president to come out for SS marriage.
Etc, etc.

So just maybe he has simply decided to focus on his family and retire to private life?
Its not like he will ever need money.
And if he does, write a book.
And former presidents make a hell of a income giving speeches by invitation.

Every person here, if you were president under these conditions, would at least at one time say to yourself, "who needs it?".
Im rich. I famous. I will go down in history. And I miss my family, my wife, my children, my life. Besides, Im not getting any younger.

If I were Obama, I would maybe, possibly wonder if I have done plenty enough for one guy?
He's only human after all.
I would think that to be very typical human nature.
I bet all of us think that way from time to time in our life, and we are hardly president of the USA.

IF that is the case, why campaign? He could've chosen to not run for reelection.
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Heh, seems the historic beatdown is well...historic and epic proportions.

Romney Narrows Vote Gap After Historic Debate Win
By record-high margin, debate watchers say Romney did better

Gallup has assessed opinion on who did better in most past presidential debates; some of these polls were conducted the night of the debate with pre-recruited samples of debate watchers immediately after it concluded, and some were conducted with more general samples of Americans in the days that followed the debate. Across all of the various debate-reaction polls Gallup has conducted, Romney's 52-point win is the largest Gallup has measured. The prior largest margin was 42 points for Bill Clinton over George H.W. Bush in the 1992 town hall debate.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/157907/romney-narrows-vote-gap-historic-debate-win.aspx
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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Umm, well, I'm from Virginia and dont care for Obama, but I'd just as soon you fart knockers wouldnt speak for me.
 

Juror No. 8

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The fact that there is corruption on both sides is not the same thing as the election being scripted. Would certain interests have a disproportionate influence in either an Obama or Romney administration? Yes, but that doesn't mean that Obama and Romney are both doing everything they can to win.

It's like saying that the Superbowl is rigged because which ever team wins will go out and do 20lbs of blow afterward.

You can go on deluding yourself with the idea that the two parties represent two sets of competing interests, just as many professional wrestling fans delude themselves with the idea that their favorite wrestler isn't acting, but the joke will always be on you.

Super wealthy ruling oligarchs stand behind both parties, support both parties, and market both parties through their controlled media to people like you as a fiery competition when it's anything but. No matter who you vote for, you are voting for the interests of those super wealthy ruling oligarchs. A vote for Obama is a vote for Romney, and a vote for Romney is a vote for Obama. No matter who is elected, the policy agenda won't change in any material way, only the narrative will.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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You can go on deluding yourself with the idea that the two parties represent two sets of competing interests, just as many professional wrestling fans delude themselves with the idea that their favorite wrestler isn't acting, but the joke will always be on you.

Super wealthy ruling oligarchs stand behind both parties, support both parties, and market both parties through their controlled media to people like you as a fiery competition when it's anything but. No matter who you vote for, you are voting for the interests of those super wealthy ruling oligarchs. A vote for Obama is a vote for Romney, and a vote for Romney is a vote for Obama. No matter who is elected, the policy agenda won't change in any material way, only the narrative will.

Tell that to the millions of people who get to stay on their parents healthcare until age 26. Tell that to the millions of Americans who no longer have to worry about lifetime caps on their insurance coverage. Tell that to the millions of Americans who can now get healthcare even though they have pre existing conditions. Tell that to the hundreds of thousands veterans that will be positively impacted by the Honoring America’s Veterans and Caring for Camp Lejeune Families Act of 2012. Tell that to the millions of Americans whose homes were under water and were able to refinance at lower interest rates. Tell that to the hundreds of thousands if not millions of workers that were positively impacted by auto bailouts. Tell that to the 300K teachers whose jobs were saved via the ARRA. Tell that to the thousands of soldiers who no longer have to worry about being kicked out of the military for being gay. Tell that to the millions of women who no will be paid equally for doing the same job a man does. Tell that to the millions of same sex couples who can now visit their loved ones in the hospital. Tell that to the millions of students who will now have lower interest rates on their student loans.


But yeah, Obama, like Romney has only worked for the top 1%.

You should look in the mirror and you will really see who is delusional.



Oh and by the way, that's only a small list of things dems and the president have done to help the middle class.
 

Juror No. 8

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Tell that to the millions of people who get to stay on their parents healthcare until age 26. Tell that to the millions of Americans who no longer have to worry about lifetime caps on their insurance coverage. Tell that to the millions of Americans who can now get healthcare even though they have pre existing conditions. Tell that to the hundreds of thousands veterans that will be positively impacted by the Honoring America’s Veterans and Caring for Camp Lejeune Families Act of 2012. Tell that to the millions of Americans whose homes were under water and were able to refinance at lower interest rates. Tell that to the hundreds of thousands if not millions of workers that were positively impacted by auto bailouts. Tell that to the 300K teachers whose jobs were saved via the ARRA. Tell that to the thousands of soldiers who no longer have to worry about being kicked out of the military for being gay. Tell that to the millions of women who no will be paid equally for doing the same job a man does. Tell that to the millions of same sex couples who can now visit their loved ones in the hospital. Tell that to the millions of students who will now have lower interest rates on their student loans.


But yeah, Obama, like Romney has only worked for the top 1%.

You should look in the mirror and you will really see who is delusional.



Oh and by the way, that's only a small list of things dems and the president have done to help the middle class.

LOL. And this, folks, is what Stockholm syndrome looks like. You're the kind of person that the local Mafia could extort $100 from, and after they give you back $50 worth of "services" and "protection", you'll praise them to the high heavens as if they are benevolent Gods.

The ruling elites give you the Big Government Mafia you want and depend on because it only increases their power in the long run, and like a sucker, you fall right into the trap.
 

Juror No. 8

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"But, but, but... the government must love us and want to take care of us because it gives us so much "free" stuff! Sure, we have to pay through the noses in taxes and inflation, and we have to surrender more and more power to the federal government, but look at all the "free" stuff we get in return!"

LOL. True Believer talk.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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"But, but, but... the government must love us and want to take care of us because it gives us so much "free" stuff! Sure, we have to pay through the noses in taxes and inflation, and we have to surrender more and more power to the federal government, but look at all the "free" stuff we get in return!"

LOL. True Believer talk.

My taxes haven't gone up so...

The problem with emotions is that they aren't always based on facts. Your alternate reality is really emotional stress caused by the fact that you don't understand this world so you make up one you do understand.

I've seen it before with people who suffer schizophobia. My advice to you is to get help before you are too afraid to even go outside.

Should I start calling you Teddy K?
 

Juror No. 8

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My taxes haven't gone up so...

Sure they have. Inflation is a form of stealth tax, and inflation has most certainly gone up. And this is to say nothing of embedded taxes in the cost of all goods and services.

The problem with emotions is that they aren't always based on facts.

Sort of like your emotional investment in your Democratic Party sugar daddies?

Your alternate reality is really emotional stress caused by the fact that you don't understand this world so you make up one you do understand.

Go ahead and explain "reality" to me then. Go ahead and explain how the billionaire elites don't control the political system through ownership of the media and their massive financial resources, which the politicians are dependent on.

Let's have your version of "reality". I beg you, explain it to me.

I've seen it before with people who suffer schizophobia. My advice to you is to get help before you are too afraid to even go outside.

Should I start calling you Teddy K?

LOL. "Schizophobia"? What's that? Is this the kind of nonsense they are teaching in government indoctrination centers these days?

LULZ.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Sure they have. Inflation is a form of stealth tax, and inflation has most certainly gone up. And this is to say nothing of embedded taxes in the cost of all goods and services.



Sort of like your emotional investment in your Democratic Party sugar daddies?



Go ahead and explain "reality" to me then. Go ahead and explain how the billionaire elites don't control the political system through ownership of the media and their massive financial resources, which the politicians are dependent on.

Let's have your version of "reality". I beg you, explain it to me.



LOL. "Schizophobia"? What's that? Is this the kind of nonsense they are teaching in government indoctrination centers these days?

LULZ.

LOL indeed. Still zero policies posted backing up your claim.

By the way, pointing to inflation (which is as low as it was under Clinton) is not a tax increase.



Sorry a misspelling there, you got me! good one! Argument over you won!

Here look into it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia
 

Juror No. 8

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LOL indeed. Still zero policies posted backing up your claim.

LOL. You believe government policies are for the reasons they tell you.

Just like I said, you are a True Believer.

By the way, pointing to inflation (which is as low as it was under Clinton) is not a tax increase.

Yes, of course, inflation is whatever the government says it is. If the government says inflation is as low now as it was under Clinton, it MUST be true! The government said so, so it is! LULZ.

You sound like a religious nut.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Wow, so data that has been gathered and presented for 100 years has been manipulated this whole time?

Yes I guess I am a nut, unless you have some data to back up your claims.

You don't and if you said you did you wouldn't post it. Did you check on that medical link I posted to check out your condition?
 

Juror No. 8

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Wow, so data that has been gathered and presented for 100 years has been manipulated this whole time?

Why, do you believe that data can't be manipulated to show whatever is politically expedient?

What do you base this religious belief of yours on?

Yes I guess I am a nut, unless you have some data to back up your claims.

Where's your data?

You don't and if you said you did you wouldn't post it. Did you check on that medical link I posted to check out your condition?

How do you know it's not you who's schizophrenic?
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Why, do you believe that data can't be manipulated to show whatever is politically expedient?

What do you base this religious belief of yours on?



Where's your data?



How do you know it's not you who's schizophrenic?

Data can be manipulated but you have to look at the facts. Has it happened before? What measures are taken to safeguard the numbers? What evidence is there of tampering?

You have nothing.


What data would you like me to post? I'm happy to provide sources.
 
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