Why are people buying AM2?

[Zebo]

Since AMD slashed prices I see everyone buying AM2 socket who's now interested in AMD.. I don't get it.

Not only is it (DDR2) slower than 939 (DDR)
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/05/23/amd_reinvents_itself/page34.html

You will most likly be running slower yet with cheap DDR2 - 533 or DDR- 667 and not buy expensive DDR2-800 which cheap Ballistix $99 a gig DDR can beat all three, all day.

Second issue is mobos' I see no $60 full atx mobos like the sky high clocker Asrock 939 Sata2 out there for AM2. The boards cost more.

Slower and more money?

 

[dexvx]

They hope to upgrade in the future.

S939 is dead.

 

[Stumps]

Originally posted by: dexvx
They hope to upgrade in the future.

S939 is dead.

 

[StrangerGuy]

DDR2 stepping stone for Conroe.

 

[John]

Originally posted by: dexvx
They hope to upgrade in the future.

S939 is dead.

While it appears to be dead on paper it's still a viable option for most people. You still have plenty of X2 & Opteron's that are available now, and will continue to be avaiable for at least another year. AM2 is the future for AMD, but there is no reason to jump ship right now because 939 is alive and kicking.

 

[dexvx]

Originally posted by: John

Originally posted by: dexvx
They hope to upgrade in the future.

S939 is dead.

While it appears to be dead on paper it's still a viable option for most people. You still have plenty of X2 & Opteron's that are available now, and will continue to be avaiable for at least another year. AM2 is the future for AMD, but there is no reason to jump ship right now because 939 is alive and kicking.

I'm not talking about jumping ship. I'm talking about people who buy a new system. Theres literally no reason to go S939.

 

[John]

This is an enthusiast forum. How many people do you think actually buy a complete system?

 

[dexvx]

Originally posted by: John
This is an enthusiast forum. How many people do you think actually buy a complete system?

First off, I dont think this is an enthusiast forum. People here know more, but generally tend to only get stuff done (best bang/buck) or use stuff for practical purposes. XS is what I would define as enthusiast.

 

[theteamaqua]

E6400 at stock > FX 62

E6400 can be OC to 3.2GHz minmum 3.8GHz maximum .... X6800 stock is 2.93Ghz ....


why would u get AMD ??? also people who buy conroe and not OC .... are idiots , too

 

[dexvx]

Originally posted by: theteamaqua
also people who buy conroe and not OC .... are idiots , too

Yes, because no one would EVER want a quiet PC or quiet SFF or low power quiet SFF type machines.

 

[Geomagick]

For the last system I built it was the best value and best performing option.

Going for a Conroe on that build would have cost significantly more for no benefit to the end user who doesn't game and just wanted to upgrade his 400MHz P2.

 

[usefulidiot127]

I bought my AM2 4200+ X2, and my DDR 800 Corsair XMS2, and I couldn't be happier! Conroe can go lick an egg and sniff poop all day for all I care.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: theteamaqua
E6400 at stock > FX 62

E6400 can be OC to 3.2GHz minmum 3.8GHz maximum .... X6800 stock is 2.93Ghz ....


why would u get AMD ??? also people who buy conroe and not OC .... are idiots , too

But I can get a 3800+ x2 and a DFI Board with a 7900GT and overclock to at least 2.5Ghz on air cooling (nothing too fancy) and get away with it for about $300-$400 less than Conroe.

Not everyone counts every FPS in every game they have. If it runs and plays smooth at quality settings I see no reason to spend such a large sum.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: usefulidiot127
I bought my AM2 4200+ X2, and my DDR 800 Corsair XMS2, and I couldn't be happier! Conroe can go lick an egg and sniff poop all day for all I care.

And I bet you saved a load of money in the process too.

4200+ is what $160 or less now at most places?

 

[usefulidiot127]

around 180-200 at most places I've seen, still a hell of a deal.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: theteamaqua
E6400 at stock > FX 62

E6400 can be OC to 3.2GHz minmum 3.8GHz maximum .... X6800 stock is 2.93Ghz ....


why would u get AMD ??? also people who buy conroe and not OC .... are idiots , too

Why you trollling? I asked AM2 vs 939. Even a retard knows Conroe is the fastest, proof is you. But that doesn't make it a better value .....many recognize value and are still buying AMDs A64 & X2's etc...thus I posted to remind people 939 is the way to go...just like northwoods were back when prescotts first come out.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: theteamaqua
E6400 at stock > FX 62

E6400 can be OC to 3.2GHz minmum 3.8GHz maximum .... X6800 stock is 2.93Ghz ....


why would u get AMD ??? also people who buy conroe and not OC .... are idiots , too

Why you trollling? I asked AM2 vs 939. Even a retard knows Conroe is the fastest, proof is you. But that doesn't make it a better value .....many recognize value and are still buying AMDs A64 & X2's etc...

Yep...again who is going to time every process and cry if they lose 10seconds on compressing a file? Who is going to play FEAR at full details at 80fps and have no gameplay problems and go cry cause they could have 100fps? I doubt highly many people would act this way. People who have money will always want to have the latest stuff and have the fastest PC. The real question is not if your PC is fast because you can always go faster, but you should ask yourself is it fast enough for what I'm doing? In most cases you will be able to say yes even without the latest and greatest things. This is why there is a market for the 7900GT(instead of GTX) and x1900x(instead of xtx) and it's why people will still buy CPUs that aren't the fastest model out there.

 

[lopri]

This has been bugging me also. The whole hardware review sites are misleading people. They say we could see 3~5% performance boost depending on applications. Hell, I'm confident to say, under similar configurations, Socket 939 system will be 3~5% faster than AM2 platform. Also don't forget that alot of people OC their DDR memory to DDR500~DDR600 with relative eases.

 

[cmdrdredd]

All in all I'm extremely happy with my x2 3800+ running solid at 2.6Ghz. I don't need more than that for anything I do. I even game on this machine. I play HL2, FEAR, Quake4, Doom3, Prey, UT2005, CoD2, and Oblivion. I have no problems with the performance. I'm not getting the performance of the test machines used in reviews, but then they also aren't using a fully loaded OS with a HD that is full of apps and isn't 100% defragmented.

For me and many others, jumping to Conroe isn't really the way to go for the prices.

 

[TommyD]

i currently have a s939 4400+/asus a32n-sli deluxe and im upgrading to an am2 fx-62/foxconn 590 nforce just so I can be ready for when the new 65 micron die cpu's are released.i like amd and personally i have never liked intel. i have full confidence that amd can retake the crown from intel and bounce back.

as for the person who was trolling calling people idiots if they purchase a conroe and not overclock, well its this simple. not all people need to wave their wang around and say "hey, i got my processor to this speed!" and go out spending $200-300 more just to get a water cooled system or an insane air cooling system. i personally got the overclocking bug out of my system a long long time ago when the athlon k7's were first released. i'd rather spend that additional money buying more memory or putting it toward quad sli (which i already have).

 

[Mucker]

Agree with Zebo. 939 is offering alot of bang for buck right now. Personally, I am waiting for Conroe maturity. In about a year, not only will the kinks be worked out, but prices will be alot more attractive. I've no interest in AM2, especially coming from 939.....

 

[harpoon84]

Originally posted by: TommyD
i currently have a s939 4400+/asus a32n-sli deluxe and im upgrading to an am2 fx-62/foxconn 590 nforce just so I can be ready for when the new 65 micron die cpu's are released.i like amd and personally i have never liked intel. i have full confidence that amd can retake the crown from intel and bounce back.

as for the person who was trolling calling people idiots if they purchase a conroe and not overclock, well its this simple. not all people need to wave their wang around and say "hey, i got my processor to this speed!" and go out spending $200-300 more just to get a water cooled system or an insane air cooling system. i personally got the overclocking bug out of my system a long long time ago when the athlon k7's were first released. i'd rather spend that additional money buying more memory or putting it toward quad sli (which i already have).

You're getting an FX-62? Wow, either you are dumb or deluded, or both. Considering an E6600 wipes the floor with it at less than half the price, plus when overclocked will be close to 30% quicker - geez, wise decision there!

I understand you being an AMD fanboy and avoiding Intel like the plague, but geez, there are better ways to waste money than on an overpriced and underperforming FX-62!

I guess AMD will love people like you who splash out the $$$ on superseded technology.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Mucker
Agree with Zebo. 939 is offering alot of bang for buck right now. Personally, I am waiting for Conroe maturity. In about a year, not only will the kinks be worked out, but prices will be alot more attractive. I've no interest in AM2, especially coming from 939.....

I'm with you about a year..real mobos that don't crap out at 400Mhz..mobos that don't cost $275 (intel is crazy charging $100 for chipsets)..mobo's from nvidia and ATI...

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: harpoon84

Originally posted by: TommyD
i currently have a s939 4400+/asus a32n-sli deluxe and im upgrading to an am2 fx-62/foxconn 590 nforce just so I can be ready for when the new 65 micron die cpu's are released.i like amd and personally i have never liked intel. i have full confidence that amd can retake the crown from intel and bounce back.

as for the person who was trolling calling people idiots if they purchase a conroe and not overclock, well its this simple. not all people need to wave their wang around and say "hey, i got my processor to this speed!" and go out spending $200-300 more just to get a water cooled system or an insane air cooling system. i personally got the overclocking bug out of my system a long long time ago when the athlon k7's were first released. i'd rather spend that additional money buying more memory or putting it toward quad sli (which i already have).

You're getting an FX-62? Wow, either you are dumb or deluded, or both. Considering an E6600 wipes the floor with it at less than half the price, plus when overclocked will be close to 30% quicker - geez, wise decision there!

I understand you being an AMD fanboy and avoiding Intel like the plague, but geez, there are better ways to waste money than on an overpriced and underperforming FX-62!

I guess AMD will love people like you who splash out the $$$ on superseded technology.

Have to agree..

If I were him I'd personally get a $200 setup and make a FX-62+++ e.g. 3800 to 3 Ghz like mine with a cheap board...or go to the dark side.... 6600 setup for $550 and be screaming....

$200 or $550 are the only real choices... Stick with AMD and have very good overclocked performance or get a 6600 and have the best.

No reason whatsoever to be spending $700-800 on a CPU alone, especially one thats slower than one half it's price

 

[Soulkeeper]

i'm interested in this 4x4 or atleast a .65nm dual core chip from AMD
i think once they get their die shrink in place am2 will again be a very attractive platform compared to intel