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IronWing

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Dude, this is not "doubling down", this is TEARING DOWN effective border policy:


Biden Suspends Deportations, Stops 'Remain In Mexico' Policy​


January 21, 20212:45 AM ET



And he also stopped border wall construction and tried to sell the unerected pieces for scrap!

04/30/2021 04:03 PM EDT

President Joe Biden is canceling further construction of the wall along the U.S. and Mexico border, the Department of Defense announced Friday.




Updated: Dec 30, 2024 / 09:17 AM CST

DALLAS (NewsNation) — A federal judge in Texas has ruled that the Biden administration must stop selling border wall materials that the outgoing president has refused to install.




...and this is why Democrats will not win elections, until they own up to the truth. They failed America. If they ever want to win another election they must learn their lesson.
Stop lying.
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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Biden PAUSED deportations and asked Congress for an immigration bill, which the GOP would not pass because it gave a pathway to citizenship for DREAMers.

A few years later he asked for another bill, which met GOP demands, and Trump killed it so he could get elected and fuck over the country.
 

DZero

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I can see it...
soon: RUSaid.
The money for USAID goes to Russia to power the country in exchange of cheap oil, gas and food. Oh, also free white chicks for Trump and the Broligarcs
 

FelixDeCat

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Aug 4, 2000
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I can see it...
soon: RUSaid.
The money for USAID goes to Russia to power the country in exchange of cheap oil, gas and food. Oh, also free white chicks for Trump and the Broligarcs

Whoa, why so cynical? Did Musk fire you?
 
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UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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“Who is pulling their strings, and what leverage do they have?”

That is the question that should be on everyone’s mind as this shambolic presidency unfolds.

Is it Donald Trump himself, or his kids? I find it hard to believe he is both a hollow-brained septuagenarian AND a master manipulator. The kids don’t seem to have the chops either. Who is their enforcer?

Is it organized crime? With people like Roy Cohn, Bernie Kerik, Michael Cohen etc. in his orbit at one time, it’s certainly plausible, but I expect we would’ve had more reporting about any direct links after his first term. And I doubt the mob is still playing an active role in his 2nd term.

What about Leonard Leo and Russell Vought (Federalist Society/Heritage Foundation/Project 2025?) Are they at the head of some cabal of billionaire donors and media outlets pulling the strings? It’s plausible, and they have a well-established track record of getting lawmakers to toe the line or face primary threats. But they don’t strike the same note of fear as some of the other suspects.

Russia, China, Netanyahu or the security apparatus they control (FSB, Mossad etc.?) They could possibly play a part, but the level of coordination required is immense.

I don’t think it’s Elon Musk—but he’s definitely under their control now. But he is too new to the scene—and this has been going on for years.

I don’t know who it is—but it’s certainly someone with a ton of leverage AND the ability to strike fear of reprisals. I don’t know how else you get all of these unqualified assholes confirmed—even with Democratic votes. I don’t know how else January 6 goes from an insurrection against the country to “no big deal” in the span of 3 days (I will forever remember Josh Hawley running the halls and Speaker McCarthy changing his mind about January 6 after one phone call with Trump.)

There are forces at work here that I don’t understand, that are able to make people with long standing beliefs and principles do a complete 180 in the span of minutes. Marco Rubio is just one example.


Or maybe, just maybe…conservatives never held any principles to begin with. It was all just lies for votes and dollars—manipulating those of us who are easiest to manipulate based on fear. And perhaps now they don’t need our votes anymore, or our dollars—because someone else is paying them top dollar to sit back and watch it all burn.
 

DZero

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Jun 20, 2024
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“Who is pulling their strings, and what leverage do they have?”

That is the question that should be on everyone’s mind as this shambolic presidency unfolds.

Is it Donald Trump himself, or his kids? I find it hard to believe he is both a hollow-brained septuagenarian AND a master manipulator. The kids don’t seem to have the chops either. Who is their enforcer?

Is it organized crime? With people like Roy Cohn, Bernie Kerik, Michael Cohen etc. in his orbit at one time, it’s certainly plausible, but I expect we would’ve had more reporting about any direct links after his first term. And I doubt the mob is still playing an active role in his 2nd term.

What about Leonard Leo and Russell Vought (Federalist Society/Heritage Foundation/Project 2025?) Are they at the head of some cabal of billionaire donors and media outlets pulling the strings? It’s plausible, and they have a well-established track record of getting lawmakers to toe the line or face primary threats. But they don’t strike the same note of fear as some of the other suspects.

Russia, China, Netanyahu or the security apparatus they control (FSB, Mossad etc.?) They could possibly play a part, but the level of coordination required is immense.

I don’t think it’s Elon Musk—but he’s definitely under their control now. But he is too new to the scene—and this has been going on for years.

I don’t know who it is—but it’s certainly someone with a ton of leverage AND the ability to strike fear of reprisals. I don’t know how else you get all of these unqualified assholes confirmed—even with Democratic votes. I don’t know how else January 6 goes from an insurrection against the country to “no big deal” in the span of 3 days (I will forever remember Josh Hawley running the halls and Speaker McCarthy changing his mind about January 6 after one phone call with Trump.)

There are forces at work here that I don’t understand, that are able to make people with long standing beliefs and principles do a complete 180 in the span of minutes. Marco Rubio is just one example.


Or maybe, just maybe…conservatives never held any principles to begin with. It was all just lies for votes and dollars—manipulating those of us who are easiest to manipulate based on fear. And perhaps now they don’t need our votes anymore, or our dollars—because someone else is paying them top dollar to sit back and watch it all burn.
Is even more simple... Putin is behind everything. He wants Russia to be freed from China. But China with India are likely to ask for more to Russia. No allies between those 3, but if Russia becomes near USA, India will doubt, but with China will be against Russia since they knows that USA with Russia will try to separate them to attack each one.
 

UNCjigga

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Is even more simple... Putin is behind everything. He wants Russia to be freed from China. But China with India are likely to ask for more to Russia. No allies between those 3, but if Russia becomes near USA, India will doubt, but with China will be against Russia since they knows that USA with Russia will try to separate them to attack each one.
Even if Putin is playing some small part, I don’t think he’s the center. I think the center, and the muscle behind these efforts, is more domestic than foreign.

I neglected to mention white nationalists and the “Christian” alt-right. While it’s now known they do have outsized influence over lawmakers and plenty of sympathizers amongst the right-wing elite, someone is pulling their strings, too, because they lack the coordination/sophistication to manipulate at scale. They might be the hired muscle, but they aren’t pulling the strings.
 
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UNCjigga

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DZero

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Ok, maybe Putin is a larger part of this than I imagined. LOL.

I called it since the beggining. Since 2016 Putin was on the plans to ruin USA and Trump is just a puppet. Even more, he wants to control USA to warn China, but at the end might end destroying USA and become Russia the next German Axis.
 

UNCjigga

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Welp, my wife’s officially furloughed starting tomorrow. No more paychecks, but she’ll retain health benefits and reduced retirement contributions for now. Stopgap measure as her org tries to survive.

Really disappointed in our Senators for doing nothing about thousands of local jobs potentially at risk, but they’re both Republican so what do you expect?

Update: She was not furloughed. Communication was a little unclear this afternoon—her direct reports are furloughed but she’s spared for now. I’d say it’s good news, but going through confusion and survivor’s guilt.
 
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DZero

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Welp, my wife’s officially furloughed starting tomorrow. No more paychecks, but she’ll retain health benefits and reduced retirement contributions for now. Stopgap measure as her org tries to survive.

Really disappointed in our Senators for doing nothing about thousands of local jobs potentially at risk, but they’re both Republican so what do you expect?
Better to do the health check now before is too late, why?
Remember that Trump wants deregulate the working conditions?

Well... the ones in charge wants to go further, like... putting the conditions even worse than China and the 3rd world.
 
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Welp, my wife’s officially furloughed starting tomorrow. No more paychecks, but she’ll retain health benefits and reduced retirement contributions for now. Stopgap measure as her org tries to survive.

Really disappointed in our Senators for doing nothing about thousands of local jobs potentially at risk, but they’re both Republican so what do you expect?
Sorry to hear that. At the very least keep calling and writing in. The typical call volume is generally pretty low, so even a modest amount calling in on a single issue at least raises the salience of the issue.
 

trenchfoot

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Surprisingly, none of the MSM is even covering these claims. Not even Fox news is trying to pass it off as real.

The MSM NEEDS to call Elmo out on this. This is part of Mike Nazi Benz's "blob" narrative. It's literally a cult ideology narrative that says ALL the media is being paid to lie to you by hidden US forces.

Mike Benz has made the rounds with this claim for a few years now. On every right-wing media outlet. The guy is a verifiable Nazi.

Something like "Don't believe the deep state fake media's lies! You must believe OUR lies, the lies that confirms the hoax fear, hatred and suspicions we keep planting in your heads."
 
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trenchfoot

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Welp, my wife’s officially furloughed starting tomorrow. No more paychecks, but she’ll retain health benefits and reduced retirement contributions for now. Stopgap measure as her org tries to survive.

Really disappointed in our Senators for doing nothing about thousands of local jobs potentially at risk, but they’re both Republican so what do you expect?

These two Senators must be thinking long and hard about which side of the fence they need to nest their eggs in. They're now in a lose/lose scenario with pissing of the voters who put them in office or get primaried out from Elon's bottomless pit of cash and Trump's mouth telling dirty lies about them.

I hope the Democrats in your state can take advantage of that.
 
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UNCjigga

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Yeah I’m hoping our Dem AG can file a lawsuit on behalf of the impacted workers and companies that are owed money. The companies themselves are hesitant to sue “the hand that feeds them” while the drama with funding freezes/Treasury and who’s in charge plays out.
 
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NWRMidnight

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Welp, my wife’s officially furloughed starting tomorrow. No more paychecks, but she’ll retain health benefits and reduced retirement contributions for now. Stopgap measure as her org tries to survive.

Really disappointed in our Senators for doing nothing about thousands of local jobs potentially at risk, but they’re both Republican so what do you expect?

Update: She was not furloughed. Communication was a little unclear this afternoon—her direct reports are furloughed but she’s spared for now. I’d say it’s good news, but going through confusion and survivor’s guilt.
Sorry to hear that, but Isn't the government supposed to follow the same employment laws as all other employers? Mass layoffs require a minimum 60 days notice. Furloughs pretty much fall under the same catagory, don't they?
 

UNCjigga

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She doesn’t work for the government, she works for a private company that’s majority funded by USAID.
 
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Reading about some of the projects and whatnot that were immediately halted, the method of stopping USAID is best described as evil and stupid.

HIV vaccine trials about to be initiated: halted. Famine alleviation measures: immediately stopped. Tuberculosis meds - halted distribution while people were just starting to receive their daily meds. And so on...

Just absolutely monstrous people rampaging through the US government, as if everyone else is an NPC - real sociopathic techbro shit.
 

trenchfoot

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Can't wait to see Trump's first full cabinet meeting where the comical weirdness of each cabinet suck-up taking a turn standing from their seats and heap glory and praise on Trump while he jaw juts and nods his head agreeing with the bullshit accolades. I really do wonder what four years of this oligarchic authoritarianism will do to our democracy. Although I have high hopes that the nation's democratic style of gov't will stand the test of time, I don't think clawing back the tax cuts that Trump and his richest men in the world club will give themselves is going to happen should the Democrats reacquire a unified gov't.

People power is what it'll take and with the Republican base so mind fucked as they are, the divisiveness sewn into the very fabric of that party of Trump can't be overcome until their party's leadership goes too far in exploiting their rank and file's gullibility and emotional vulnerabilities of which will take something outrageously stupid on the part of their regime's leadership to trigger.

That 'ol saying about "fooling some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of...." doesn't fare too well within the Party of Trump. They proved that their leadership can fool all of the people in their party all of the time and make it look so easy doing it.
 

WilliamM2

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I'm trying to figure out what is wrong with republicans in the house and senate. They are so afraid of being primaried that they won't do their jobs?
Don't they realize they have constituents to represent, and that even as slow as those constituents are, will eventually realize they have been suckered. And then they won't get re-elected anyways.
 
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UNCjigga

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Read this—it’s insane.

Essentially, most of the anti-USAID sentiment from the Trump administration can be traced back to one man (Mike Benz) who formerly served in Trump’s State Department (1st term.) He’s boosted false conspiracy theories about USAID for a few years now, and Musk, Trump and GOP lawmakers finally started paying attention. Now Musk and others are promoting Russian disinformation like that fake “E!News” clip about Hollywood celebrities taking lavish trips to Ukraine funded by USAID (completely false).

But Musk himself is a beneficiary of USAID grants—they funded Zola and Starlink terminals for Ukraine. But Musk seemed to flip when they started investigating his Ukraine Starlink contract. One of the things they’re investigating is how Russia also obtained Starlink terminals inside Ukraine.

Edit: Was wrong about initial theory on how Russia acquired Starlink—here’s more accurate reporting (WSJ): https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...arlink-terminals-ukraine-wsj-says-2024-02-15/

So Russian firms purchased the terminals via intermediaries in friendly neighbors that allegedly purchased the terminals on the open market. But what if that isn’t the whole story?
 
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nakedfrog

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Can't wait to see Trump's first full cabinet meeting where the comical weirdness of each cabinet suck-up taking a turn standing from their seats and heap glory and praise on Trump while he jaw juts and nods his head agreeing with the bullshit accolades. I really do wonder what four years of this oligarchic authoritarianism will do to our democracy. Although I have high hopes that the nation's democratic style of gov't will stand the test of time, I don't think clawing back the tax cuts that Trump and his richest men in the world club will give themselves is going to happen should the Democrats reacquire a unified gov't.

People power is what it'll take and with the Republican base so mind fucked as they are, the divisiveness sewn into the very fabric of that party of Trump can't be overcome until their party's leadership goes too far in exploiting their rank and file's gullibility and emotional vulnerabilities of which will take something outrageously stupid on the part of their regime's leadership to trigger.

That 'ol saying about "fooling some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of...." doesn't fare too well within the Party of Trump. They proved that their leadership can fool all of the people in their party all of the time and make it look so easy doing it.
It also turns out that if you develop an effective propaganda network or three and have the help of foreign enemies who aren't bound by any US laws, you can greatly increase the number of people you can fool all of the time.
 

cytg111

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I'm trying to figure out what is wrong with republicans in the house and senate. They are so afraid of being primaried that they won't do their jobs?
Don't they realize they have constituents to represent, and that even as slow as those constituents are, will eventually realize they have been suckered. And then they won't get re-elected anyways.
Yes. Its 100% that. Cesspool. Few politicians is in it for the cause unless that cause is them selves.
 
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