Why Do People Not OC?

[TunaBoo]

People always say "I dont Overclock because I have more than enough speed"

I mean wtf, speed is always good. At work I run races between the computers. In identical computers, a Duron 850 will finish defragging a 20 gig hard dirve almost 3 seconds faster than a Duron 800. And I won't even get into games.

 

[sohcrates]

1) i can't live w/out complete stability

2) the last thing i want to do is worry about heat issues

 

[BillMartin12]

Speed is always better, but for me it's not really that. I need speed for games, I get it and just not bother with the risk of overrunning my CPU at speeds it wasn't meant for.

Yes, it is of course fully able to run at faster speeds, but hell, the chips cost so little if I want more speed, I'll just pay for it.

And, with 1.1ghz of speed, I don't really care to shave a minute or 2 off my defragging by overclocking, I'm not that impatient myself.

Bill Martin

How To Build Your Own Home PC for Under $700, Even If You're a Techno-Dummy!

 

[GT1999]

I don't overclock because I have a 1.1GHz Athlon. No, it's not the fastest CPU out there, but it's enough for me right now with the software I use. Also, I can't get it much higher without upping the voltage and decreasing the life of the CPU, generating more heat, and creating stability problems.

My P3-450, however, runs at 621MHz (Linux).

 

[TunaBoo]

<< 1) i can't live w/out complete stability
>>


To me this is more of a misnomer. I do not consider my CPU OCed unless it is running 100% stable at the current speed. I am oced 40% right now, and I have not had a crash in 2 months since I bought this stuff.



<<
2) the last thing i want to do is worry about heat issues >>



You are going to have heat issues no matter what. I dunno, spending a few more bucks on a HSF and buying 4 case fans for a 40% CPU speed increase? Works for me I guess.

 

[sohcrates]

unfortunately, i've found that some overclocker's find a BSOD every now and then acceptable...which i do not. i'm sure there's lots of &quot;stable&quot; oc'ers out there.

i have 12 case fans, and no heat issues....but i like my nice retail HSF and am in no hurry to replace it, that's all

 

[erub]

damn 12 case fans!!! heh. I have a P3 750 running at 930, stabily and with only a retail HSF.

 

[Vincent]

Stability is more important to me than speed.

 

[GremlinHater]

Eh...this may not all be my exact opinion, just an objectional view.

1. Void of warranty.
2. Don't know how, yes, some people are computer illiterate. (Scratch that, MOST.)
3. As said before heat issues though it's not a biggy reason.
4. Some of the higher processing speeds can be negligible, in other words, most people can't really tell much of a difference with out some type of reference to go by, which thus would slightly defeat the purpose.
5. A lot of people don't know you can overclock a computer to faster speeds. Swear to God.
6. Prices down, power up, most are happy enough with what they got or could afford (lazy).
7. Stability.
8. Longer CPU life.

Hmm...anymore?

 

[KpocAlypse]

Cpu life i really don't give a hoot about, i only keep them for about two years anyway. The reason i don't overclock is pretty simple. One my Socket seems to be interfering with any speed above 105, and Two, my heatsink is out of a Compaq pisario, so it runs hot as heck with no overclock.

 

[Scouzer]

I don't anymore because I can post at 122fsb now, but I'm not stable at 105fsb due to my new junk RAM

 

[Elledan]

1. Short on time
2. Finally happy with a stable system, thus
3. Not taking any risks by overclocking, but simply buying a faster CPU if necessary.

 

[NicColt]

I have a 1.33(266) in my A7V so it's maxed out at 13x100=1300. it's actuall underclocked by .33mhz

 

[Rankor]

I've oc'd cpus since my i486 DX4-100.

Now with today's 1+ Ghz procs from both camps and today's fast video cards, oc'ing just for extra frames in a game or for bragging rights on some benchmark isn't worth it (to me anyway) anymore.

Stability's the thing for me.

Speed comes at a price, whether it be in the form of a faster proc and the hit to the wallet (or plastic) or in the form of a lower clk'd proc oc'd above spec and the (potential) hit to stability, potential data loss, and proc burn-out. Now that the data that I work with is more important I can't risk it (anymore) and I (honestly) don't want to pluck $100+ US or so on a new processor every-so-often.

The upgrade bug has finally (?) died down also and the only thing that I (might) want to upgrade the gaming rig I have is the GF2 (sorta) Pro probably up to a GF3.

To upgrade anything else is not worth it and will probably warrant a new rig build altogether.

 

[MrWhiteUK]

I find that people who overclock don't really have anything important to do on their comps. Overclocking will usually lead to decreased stability and not forgetting it takes time to overclock/verify overclock some more, time I haven't got.

I have a 1400 tbird which is expensive here in the UK, I don't have the money to replace it if I screw it up, I have already lost an 800 to OC'ing, and yes I know what I'm doing.

Sometimes chips don't die straight away sometimes it gets worse or weakens the component badly, my 800 would BSOD randomly but would still run hours of demo loops, this is not acceptable when you have important work to be doing.

It's not in my nature to OC, I don't like jepordizing my equipment's life span, I wouldn't run my Home Theater equipment out of spec for any gains.

OC'ers seem to have little respect and/or understanding for sensitive computer components, they pluck the standard fans off them, splash AS epoxy all over them and then chuck 'em in the freezer/oven/dishwasher when they don't work!

People that overclock top of the line chips and Geforce 3's are just fscking crazy (I won't say stupid not wanting to start a flame war).

That's not what OCing is about anyway, sure if I had a comp that I didn't do work on and the bits were relatively cheap, 700 Durons, Celerons etc. then Hell Yeah I'd overclock.

With current chip prices it's hardly worth it is it? What with the extra cooling costs (and noise!) from a $$$ standpoint at current prices it's not really worth it.

I view OC'ing as a hobby for some, I'm not knocking it atall, OC'ing is fun, you learn alot too (some bad habbits though) but for me stability is No.1, I find it much more rewarding having the smoothest most stable comp than an extra bit of speed.

This is MHO


Peace.

 

[ST4RCUTTER]

Fear, uncertainty and doubt.

Overclocked systems aren't any more unstable than stock boxes. If an overclocked system is going to be unstable, it will tell you so in the first 24hrs, or minutes.

 

[McCarthy]

Does overclocking make it more stable? Produce less heat? Then why bother if you have X number of hours in your day, can afford X processor to do X task and everything's working? I overclock, have for years, but this &quot;you suck if you don't&quot; attitude is really lowbrow.

--Mc

 

[ST4RCUTTER]

? I overclock, have for years, but this &quot;you suck if you don't&quot; attitude is really lowbrow.

Who ever said non-overclockers suck? Most of what I've read in this thread is FUD, sorry, but it is. The CPU's come out of the factory with the full knowledge of their maker that they can run faster. That safety margin is there to protect the chip manufacturer, but for those who are willing to risk a chip with a lifespan of about 2-3 years anyway, it's a good way to squeeze every drop of $$ out of it. And in the case of Durons, I can buy them for next to nothing and OC it to a respectable speed.

 

[Pikachu]

&quot;Most of what I've read in this thread is FUD...&quot;

You tend to overlook the more important point then, don't you? That being HEAT! Sure, you can overcome that obstacle with more fans, but who wants to listen to that crap?

BTW, I OC the sh|t out of my Intel based machines using stock HS/Fans only. If more than that is required... F* it!

 

[ST4RCUTTER]

You tend to overlook the more important point then, don't you? That being HEAT.

In what way did my previous posts indicate my ignorance of a heat increase from overclocking? In both my overclocked boxes I removed the stock HSF and added a Global Win product that brought my temps right back in line with the stock CPU's, and I don't find them annoying at all.


BTW, I OC the sh|t out of my Intel based machines using stock HS/Fans only.

As far as the FSB will allow...



If more than that is required... F* it!

Well, isn't that special.

 

[MrWhiteUK]

<< &quot;you suck if you don't&quot; attitude is really lowbrow. >>



Yeah I agree, when you actually find a use for your comp apart from messing around OC'ing will be bottom of your list of priorities.

Can you imagine NASA running their systems overclocked?!
&quot;Houston, we have a problem, hold on a min gotta reset the CMOS it keeps BSOD on me&quot;


I'm not putting OC'ing down it's just not for everybody, you obviously didn't understand that judging by your question.

To me an overclocked machine is a second rate one.


Peace.

 

[Pikachu]

Most of what I've read in this thread is right on the money, sorry, but it is!

 

[Jiggz]

I don't OC unless I can't. So far the only CPU that I was not able to OC was the classic P-133 which will not even do 166Mhz. Everything else I OC starting with the 486-66, K6-300, C-333, P-650, P-700, D-750 and TB 900. Presently, I'm running a TB-900 to 1.1Ghz. Stability is a must otherwise I will not OC. You can't honestly say you are OC'ing when you have to reboot at leat two or three times in a day. That's a joke. An OC'er will only say he's OC'ed if has both speed and stability1

 

[ST4RCUTTER]

Yeah I agree, when you actually find a use for your comp apart from messing around. OC'ing will be bottom of your list of priorities.

So by your logic people who choose to overclock their CPU's have nothing better to do than overclock their CPU's? LOL! After running my CPU for a few weeks to make sure everything was good I overclocked it and haven't opened the case since.



Can you imagine NASA running their systems overclocked?! Houston, we have a problem, hold on a min gotta reset the CMOS it keeps BSOD on me.

I don't think you could have compared apples to oranges any better than you just did. Again, LOL!



I'm not putting OC'ing down it's just not for everybody, you obviously didn't understand that judging by your question.

I never said it was. Only that most people choose to not overclock based on what they've heard rather than what they know.



To me an overclocked machine is a second rate one.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion.

 

[MrWhiteUK]

<< So by your logic people who choose to overclock their CPU's have nothing better to do than overclock their CPU's? LOL! After running my CPU for a few weeks to make sure everything was good I overclocked it and haven't opened the case since. >>



And I presume you tested it for a few weeks after
I'm happy you had the time to do so, I take it you didn't do any cruical work in that time period.

Damage to hardware components can be cumalative, parts get weakened and may fail at a later date.
You don't know how far you have shortened the life of that piece, could've just brought it's life down fron 15 years to 10 years, or you could've given it only a couple of weeks/months left to live.


The worst part from running an overclocked system is the time it takes troubleshooting when things go wrong. So your overclocked comp starts acting a little funky, you're starting to get BSOD, you have been OC'ing by multiplyer, by fsb you OC'ed your gfx card, your memory is running out of spec. So which component is fscking up? Do you have a variety of cards, mem sticks, mobo's, cpus to swap out for testing? Do you have a couple of weeks/months to sort out the problem 'cos that's how long it's gonner take, it did me in the past. Do you have time to RMA the faulty part? 1 month and counting for my old mobo to be repaired by ASUS.

But ofcourse no-one tells the newbie who asks the common question &quot;Shall I overlclock my new rig?&quot;

Usually met with &quot;Go on! whack up the voltage/multiplyer/fsb!&quot;

Two words F*CK THAT!