Why don't we allow nightsticks...

[Xylitol]

EDIT: I didn't mean let's ban tazers - I meant let's allow nightsticks

They cause less deaths and they seem to get criminals in order better
?

 

[coldmeat]

You have to get close to use a nightstick. You can fire a taser from a safe distance.

 

[Tim]

The lethality of any weapon can be dependant on the person weilding it. For instance, I have a cup, and I could kill you with it.

 

[bsobel]

Cops have to get closer with nightsticks, it puts them at more risk.

 

[KLin]

Horrible idea.

 

[Queasy]

Nightsticks also generally lead to things like broken skulls...

 

[Arkaign]

I think Tazers are fine, but we need some standardized national system of accountability for the proper use of force, that includes penalties severe enough to keep police doing their job properly instead of lazily. As it is, the police code pretty much guarantees that unless you are INSANELY evil, like walking up to 4 year olds at preschool and pumping them full of hollow-points to the forehead, that they can get away with virtually ANYTHING and get away clean. At most, they get PAID leave. Assholes. With accountability, there would probably be a lot fewer of these 'incidents'.

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: Xylitol
They cause less deaths and they seem to get criminals in order better
?

fewer deaths.

As others said, batons require getting up close and personal, putting officers at greater risk. Plus, suspects who have been battered by a baton are a lot worse off than those who have been tasered. At least with a taser the pain goes away almost immediately after the current stops flowing, with a baton you can easily break bones.

 

[waggy]

Tazers have a place. if a guy has a knife threatening to hurt himself i don't see why not use a tazer on him. sure wouldnt want a cop to go at him with a baton and no reason to shoot unless needed.


I do agree with arkaign that there needs to bemore accuntability and training.

 

[PepePeru]

Originally posted by: Arkaign
I think Tazers are fine, but we need some standardized national system of accountability for the proper use of force, that includes penalties severe enough to keep police doing their job properly instead of lazily. As it is, the police code pretty much guarantees that unless you are INSANELY evil, like walking up to 4 year olds at preschool and pumping them full of hollow-points to the forehead, that they can get away with virtually ANYTHING and get away clean. At most, they get PAID leave. Assholes. With accountability, there would probably be a lot fewer of these 'incidents'.

unfortunately that would take real leadership and courage.
something that sorely lacks in our current political climate.

unfortunately we get these lame-brain arguments:

criminals aren't accountable, so why should the police be accountable as well?!

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: bsobel
Cops have to get closer with nightsticks, it puts them at more risk.

Heaven forbid an officer get hurt when he's trying to taze a 40 year old mental patient who falls 10 feet and dies!

:|

It doesn't matter what you give them, there will be cops who abuse it or use it without thinking and get someone killed.

 

[Epic Fail]

because "Don't nightstick me, bro" doesn't flow as well.

 

[powpowpow]

Originally posted by: Epic Fail
because "Don't nightstick me, bro" doesn't flow as well.

true that

 

[mundane]

I think a semi-auto beanbag gun would be much more fun for the officers.

 

[FallenHero]

Originally posted by: theplaidfad
The lethality of any weapon can be dependant on the person weilding it. For instance, I have a cup, and I could kill you with it.

vin diesel?

 

[FallenHero]

Originally posted by: mundane
I think a semi-auto beanbag gun would be much more fun for the officers.

does not work nearly as well as a taser.

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: bsobel
Cops have to get closer with nightsticks, it puts them at more risk.

Heaven forbid an officer get hurt when he's trying to taze a 40 year old mental patient who falls 10 feet and dies!

:|

It doesn't matter what you give them, there will be cops who abuse it or use it without thinking and get someone killed.

Why not give them accountability.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Originally posted by: mundane
I think a semi-auto beanbag gun would be much more fun for the officers.

does not work nearly as well as a taser.

he didnt say it would work as well. he said be much more fun. wich i have to agree LOL

 

[FallenHero]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Originally posted by: mundane
I think a semi-auto beanbag gun would be much more fun for the officers.

does not work nearly as well as a taser.

he didnt say it would work as well. he said be much more fun. wich i have to agree LOL

point taken.

And, they are a blast to shoot.

 

[manowar821]

To be honest, tazers aren't the issue. The issue is pussy cops using tazers to get people to behave, rather than in situations where you actually need to take someone down. It's bullshit to say that "oh well, he was yelling, so I tazed him".

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: bsobel
Cops have to get closer with nightsticks, it puts them at more risk.

Heaven forbid an officer get hurt when he's trying to taze a 40 year old mental patient who falls 10 feet and dies!

:|

It doesn't matter what you give them, there will be cops who abuse it or use it without thinking and get someone killed.

Why not give them accountability.

Damn you, sir. You get out of this thread with your silly logic and reason. Stop making sense, asshole!

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Originally posted by: mundane
I think a semi-auto beanbag gun would be much more fun for the officers.

does not work nearly as well as a taser.

he didnt say it would work as well. he said be much more fun. wich i have to agree LOL

point taken.

And, they are a blast to shoot.

oh i bet they are. seen them used on cops and they look like fun.

actually so do tazers LOL

hey fallen your in IL come to Esmond and let me taz you! i will give you a beer..or two!

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: bsobel
Cops have to get closer with nightsticks, it puts them at more risk.

Heaven forbid an officer get hurt when he's trying to taze a 40 year old mental patient who falls 10 feet and dies!

:|

It doesn't matter what you give them, there will be cops who abuse it or use it without thinking and get someone killed.

Why not give them accountability.

Damn you, sir. You get out of this thread with your silly logic and reason. Stop making sense, asshole!

Sorry, I must have been trolling.

 

[Lamont Burns]

If you have a nightstick and use it, it looks like shit on a video. You always come off looking terrible.

Tazers look dignified!

 

[MotF Bane]

Originally posted by: G Wizard

Originally posted by: Arkaign
I think Tazers are fine, but we need some standardized national system of accountability for the proper use of force, that includes penalties severe enough to keep police doing their job properly instead of lazily. As it is, the police code pretty much guarantees that unless you are INSANELY evil, like walking up to 4 year olds at preschool and pumping them full of hollow-points to the forehead, that they can get away with virtually ANYTHING and get away clean. At most, they get PAID leave. Assholes. With accountability, there would probably be a lot fewer of these 'incidents'.

unfortunately that would take real leadership and courage.
something that sorely lacks in our current political climate.

unfortunately we get these lame-brain arguments:

criminals aren't accountable, so why should the police be accountable as well?!

People actually say something like that? :Q