lol, someone who advocates mass-scale discrimination is calling someone else intolerant. You remind me of an apartheid supporter.
Originally posted by: Sultan
ok man, be as senseless as you can be. you're just an intolerant person who hates those who dont agree with you. period.
Originally posted by: hatim
and this is in case of a true Islamic regime. That time, they will be running the government properly and smoothly. Im not talking about those rougur regimes that came after Imam Ali, The Banul Ummayads, Banul Abbas and all. True Imam and khalifa. Not just so called.
Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Originally posted by: hatim
And for Homos, you need fore reliable witnesses who have seen explicitly or any other explicit proof before execution
Wouldn't they be criminals for watching?
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Sultan
ok man, be as senseless as you can be. you're just an intolerant person who hates those who dont agree with you. period.
Yes, I am intolerant against racists and people with discriminatory beliefs. You are now attempting to hide it, but you already previously stated your open hatred.
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Sultan
ok man, be as senseless as you can be. you're just an intolerant person who hates those who dont agree with you. period.
Yes, I am intolerant against racists and people with discriminatory beliefs. You are now attempting to hide it, but you already previously stated your open hatred.
And therefore, you are a racist and possess discriminatory beliefs.
Get out your hole mongoose.
Originally posted by: hatim
Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Originally posted by: hatim
And for Homos, you need fore reliable witnesses who have seen explicitly or any other explicit proof before execution
Wouldn't they be criminals for watching?
ahahaha no why? If they found out
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: hatim
and this is in case of a true Islamic regime. That time, they will be running the government properly and smoothly. Im not talking about those rougur regimes that came after Imam Ali, The Banul Ummayads, Banul Abbas and all. True Imam and khalifa. Not just so called.
Hopefully any 'true Islamic regime' fails to exist or completely falls apart.
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Sultan
ok man, be as senseless as you can be. you're just an intolerant person who hates those who dont agree with you. period.
Yes, I am intolerant against racists and people with discriminatory beliefs. You are now attempting to hide it, but you already previously stated your open hatred.
And therefore, you are a racist and possess discriminatory beliefs.
Get out your hole mongoose.
I love your logic.
Sultan: YOU'RE RACIST IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE VIEWS OF RACISTS!!!!!1!
Keep justifying your hate if it makes you sleep better at night, Sultan.
Originally posted by: hatim
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: hatim
and this is in case of a true Islamic regime. That time, they will be running the government properly and smoothly. Im not talking about those rougur regimes that came after Imam Ali, The Banul Ummayads, Banul Abbas and all. True Imam and khalifa. Not just so called.
Hopefully any 'true Islamic regime' fails to exist or completely falls apart.
time will tell
And you are and ignorant idiot. You are the one who has been braiwashed into thinking Islaim=Evil...SAD!
Originally posted by: hatim
and this is in case of a true Islamic regime. That time, they will be running the government properly and smoothly. Im not talking about those rougur regimes that came after Imam Ali, The Banul Ummayads, Banul Abbas and all. True Imam and khalifa. Not just so called.
Originally posted by: MegaWorks
hatim where do you come from?
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Sultan
ok man, be as senseless as you can be. you're just an intolerant person who hates those who dont agree with you. period.
Yes, I am intolerant against racists and people with discriminatory beliefs. You are now attempting to hide it, but you already previously stated your open hatred.
And therefore, you are a racist and possess discriminatory beliefs.
Get out your hole mongoose.
I love your logic.
Sultan: YOU'RE RACIST IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE VIEWS OF RACISTS!!!!!1!
Keep justifying your hate if it makes you sleep better at night, Sultan.
I'm fine with my beliefs you just seem to not assimilate the understanding of difference in taxation :roll:
All non-muslims receive protection under an Islamic government. They are taxed a bit more, and the tax is called Jizyah.
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Sultan
ok man, be as senseless as you can be. you're just an intolerant person who hates those who dont agree with you. period.
Yes, I am intolerant against racists and people with discriminatory beliefs. You are now attempting to hide it, but you already previously stated your open hatred.
And therefore, you are a racist and possess discriminatory beliefs.
Get out your hole mongoose.
I love your logic.
Sultan: YOU'RE RACIST IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE VIEWS OF RACISTS!!!!!1!
Keep justifying your hate if it makes you sleep better at night, Sultan.
I'm fine with my beliefs you just seem to not assimilate the understanding of difference in taxation :roll:
Of course I have trouble understanding why you are OK with discriminatory taxation.
As you said in a previous post:
All non-muslims receive protection under an Islamic government. They are taxed a bit more, and the tax is called Jizyah.
And proceeded to defend such a system, you are clearly discriminatory.
What a depraved person you are.
Did you attend the same brainwashing school as hatim?
a tax paid by non-Muslims living in a Muslim State. Since the non-Muslims are exempt from military service and taxes imposed on Muslims, they must pay this tax to compensate. It guarentees them security and protection. If the State cannot protect those who paid jizyah, then the amount they paid is returned to them.
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
a tax paid by non-Muslims living in a Muslim State. Since the non-Muslims are exempt from military service and taxes imposed on Muslims, they must pay this tax to compensate. It guarentees them security and protection. If the State cannot protect those who paid jizyah, then the amount they paid is returned to them.
lol... they have guarantee them security and protection.. why do they need it? Does nobody else receive any type of security? If everyone was treated equally, you don't need a special security tax. I especially like the last sentence in the description, lol.
Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
a tax paid by non-Muslims living in a Muslim State. Since the non-Muslims are exempt from military service and taxes imposed on Muslims, they must pay this tax to compensate. It guarentees them security and protection. If the State cannot protect those who paid jizyah, then the amount they paid is returned to them.
lol... they have guarantee them security and protection.. why do they need it? Does nobody else receive any type of security? If everyone was treated equally, you don't need a special security tax. I especially like the last sentence in the description, lol.
If the State cannot protect those who paid jizyah, then the amount they paid is returned to their survivors.
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
a tax paid by non-Muslims living in a Muslim State. Since the non-Muslims are exempt from military service and taxes imposed on Muslims, they must pay this tax to compensate. It guarentees them security and protection. If the State cannot protect those who paid jizyah, then the amount they paid is returned to them.
lol... they have guarantee them security and protection.. why do they need it? Does nobody else receive any type of security? If everyone was treated equally, you don't need a special security tax. I especially like the last sentence in the description, lol.
If the State cannot protect those who paid jizyah, then the amount they paid is returned to their survivors.
Well thats reassuring.
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
a tax paid by non-Muslims living in a Muslim State. Since the non-Muslims are exempt from military service and taxes imposed on Muslims, they must pay this tax to compensate. It guarentees them security and protection. If the State cannot protect those who paid jizyah, then the amount they paid is returned to them.
lol... they have guarantee them security and protection.. why do they need it? Does nobody else receive any type of security? If everyone was treated equally, you don't need a special security tax. I especially like the last sentence in the description, lol.
If the State cannot protect those who paid jizyah, then the amount they paid is returned to their survivors.
Well thats reassuring.
Please pay our discriminatory tax against you and your people. We'll provide you with 'extra' protection, that everyone else receives as well. If we decide that we can't protect you, we'll leave and return your money to you after you have been slaughtered like the infidel or heathen that you are.
Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot
RabidMongoose, if you are appalled by Saudi Arabia's government, the first person that should hear your outrage is President George Bush. It is thru his support and backing that the Kingdom remains in power. I am a devout muslim and I don't feel that Saudia Arabia's government is even close to a true representation of Islamic government.
The situation the Middle East is in is not due to Islam, the leaders, or intolerance; it is due to decades of corruption, poverty and strife so that you and I (americans) can drive in our 5 mpg SUVs. Read up on a little bit of modern ME history and you'll find out how sickening it is to see what Britan and the US have done. When you live in those kinds of conditions, nothing but evil can arise. Don't blame Islam for the current predicament, it is the West's insatisable greed for cheap and easy oil. We toppled democracies, supported and protected dictators. We urged wars to be fought against governments that didn't fall in line with our doctrines.
BTW, the Taliban did ask for evidence that UBL committed those acts. And we all forget that before the Taliban came into power, there were mass riots and anarchy in Afghanistan. The Northern Alliance went around pillaging and raping citizens. When "Mullah" Omar came into power, he hanged all these rapists, killed the murderers and basically imposed martial law throughout Afghanistan. I'm not trying to justify the Taliban, but because of his harshness, Afghanistan was able to experience a glimmer of civility again. Again, the Taliban wasn't even close to a true Islamic republic, but it was the best government that country had seen in 20 years.
About the jizah and other "discriminatory" practices. The jizah is basically a substitute for the Zakat, which all Muslims pay. There is nothing inherently discriminatory. It's a means of record keeping and equality. There is more inequality in most Western societies than there was during the Turks and early Islamic empires. We forget so quickly the impact of Islamic empires in the early century. Most of our mathematics prior to Newton comes from the Arabs (algebra, geometry, etc etc). Before you say soemthig like "OMG THE GREEKS INVENTED GEOMETRY RAWR SCREW THOSE INTOLERANT MUSLIMS," most every Greek and Roman document was destroyed when the Catholic Church came into power. The only surviving copies were in the Arab lands. Plutarch, Aristotle, Plato, and a host of other Greeks were only available in Arabic for hundreds of years. While the Europeans were burning witches and supplicanting themselves before the church, Jews and Christians enjoyed widespread freedom; freedom that was unrivaled until after Hitler lost WWII. Islamic empires made advances in astronmy, mathematics, writing, record keeping, transportation, archetecture long before Europe was anything. Anyways, I digress, back to the jizah. It's a means for everyone to contribute equally to the State. There is nothing in any of the Hadith that said that Jews and CHristians can not practice their religons as they please, nor anything that says one should commit wholescale genocide. Quit listening to Pat Robertson for your Islamic information.
Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot
The situation the Middle East is in is not due to Islam, the leaders, or intolerance; it is due to decades of corruption, poverty and strife so that you and I (americans) can drive in our 5 mpg SUVs. Read up on a little bit of modern ME history and you'll find out how sickening it is to see what Britan and the US have done. When you live in those kinds of conditions, nothing but evil can arise. Don't blame Islam for the current predicament, it is the West's insatisable greed for cheap and easy oil. We toppled democracies, supported and protected dictators. We urged wars to be fought against governments that didn't fall in line with our doctrines.
About the jizah and other "discriminatory" practices. The jizah is basically a substitute for the Zakat, which all Muslims pay. There is nothing inherently discriminatory. It's a means of record keeping and equality.
There is more inequality in most Western societies than there was during the Turks and early Islamic empires. We forget so quickly the impact of Islamic empires in the early century. Most of our mathematics prior to Newton comes from the Arabs (algebra, geometry, etc etc). Before you say soemthig like "OMG THE GREEKS INVENTED GEOMETRY RAWR SCREW THOSE INTOLERANT MUSLIMS," most every Greek and Roman document was destroyed when the Catholic Church came into power. The only surviving copies were in the Arab lands. Plutarch, Aristotle, Plato, and a host of other Greeks were only available in Arabic for hundreds of years. While the Europeans were burning witches and supplicanting themselves before the church, Jews and Christians enjoyed widespread freedom; freedom that was unrivaled until after Hitler lost WWII. Islamic empires made advances in astronmy, mathematics, writing, record keeping, transportation, archetecture long before Europe was anything.
Anyways, I digress, back to the jizah. It's a means for everyone to contribute equally to the State. There is nothing in any of the Hadith that said that Jews and CHristians can not practice their religons as they please, nor anything that says one should commit wholescale genocide.
Quit listening to Pat Robertson for your Islamic information.
That's good to know, however everything described by Sultan and Hatim contradict what you are saying. My replies are in line with their disgusting beliefs. If you're different, then great! None of the Muslims I know subscribe to Hatim and Sultan's perverted beliefs.