Why firefox sucks

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I like how the OP is MIA. He's still on his forums insisting that because the code passes the W3C validator using "text-align: center" to center tables is legit. The property is called text-align, not table-align or element-align.
 

imported_brad

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If you dont like Firefox, use opera, or use IE and be happy with all your spyware.

Tabbed browsing, themes, and customizable format as well as EXCELLENT cookie control and security are enough for me.
 

Pepsi90919

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Originally posted by: brad
If you dont like Firefox, use opera, or use IE and be happy with all your spyware.

Tabbed browsing, themes, and customizable format as well as EXCELLENT cookie control and security are enough for me.

i use IE all the time and have absolutely no spyware. just because you're completely inept at using a computer is no reason to spew forth your false gospel about how your browser is "superior".
 

imported_brad

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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

just because you're completely inept at using a computer is no reason to spew forth your false gospel about how your browser is "superior".
LMAO

Im new to these boards and wasnt sure if the atmosphere was supposed to be somewhat professional or curteous, i guess not. Thx for letting me know its ok to be classless.
 
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ROFL. Firefox is what it is. It's a free piece of software that has the same problems as IE.
 

KEV1N

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The demo isn't very comprehensive... his page is W3C compliant because it adheres to the syntax. This doesn't necessarily mean he's using the correct semantics. He's specified the text align of all body text to be centered, and in firefox, the text itself is center-aligned. If he wanted to center-align the table he could set the table's margins to be auto, which would be syntactically and semantically compliant, and produce the results he was looking for.
 

AmigaMan

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I can use either browser just fine and not worry about popups or viruses and their ilk. But for my sister-in-law who goes to some questionable sites or my mother-in-law who accidently gets infected by a virus by visiting some stupid link sent to her in an email, firefox rules. You don't have to worry about activex crap or any other exploits. It lets them browse the web in a safe way and they're protected.
So all you people who are spewing hate for each other just STFU and use the browser you want. Me and my house will use Firefox, and I will continue advocating it to my relatives and friends who are not advanced computer users. For those who are advanced, I'll let them make up their own mind.
 

Nithin

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Originally posted by: JetBlack69
Originally posted by: Stefan
2. In your http://www.messedup.net/firefox-demo.htm link, I see no code that is supposed to center the table. The only thing I see is IE is automatically centering the table, whereas FireFox displays it as the code is written (firefox-demo2.htm - is centered in FF because it's specified to be centered).

Exactly. Should everything be automagically centered in Internet Explorer even though nothing is coded to be centered?

 

TheCanuck

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I've tried most of the browsers out there and they all have their faults. Firefox is great if you are heavily into porn and warez sites -- I installed it on my buddies PC and he thinks it's the best thing since Jenna Jameson!

For me though I just don't like its version of tabbed browsing, the way it only shows bookmarks in one column, no ability off the bat to block flash animations (though you can get it with a plugin but I hate messing with plugins), plus the incompatibilities, loading of pages is "slow", program loadtime is slow, and the interface feels a little clunky.

Right now I'm using Avant ( http://www.avantbrowser.com/ ) which is similar to Marathon, but for me has a cleaner interface, more options, can toggle flash animations easily (great if you have a laptop with a DX7 or lower card since the flash animations will eat up CPU cycles and heat it up quickly) and it has a decent popup / ad blocker.

I'm sure Firefox will eventually sort out its bugs, but for now I'm sticking with Avant.
 

Electric Amish

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loading of pages is "slow", program loadtime is slow, and the interface feels a little clunky.

I've never put the word "slow" in the same sentence as "Firefox". It's way faster than IE ever has been for me.
 

yukichigai

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Firefox sucks because you can't make ctrl+enter in the address bar open a new tab.

<-- sticking with Mozilla, thank you.
 

jonnyGURU

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Firefox sucks because I know how to not write lazy code?

I'm sorry, if I want to center, I center. I can use any means I want to do so. I also feel that tags that begin, should end.

Someone that takes the "learn to write code" comment as an offense should get out of the business of making webpages. Yes, the code is W3C compliant, but the W3C doesn't have any guarantees on how the end result is going to look in different browsers.
 

wraith3k

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Using firefox solely for the purpose of avoiding spyware is ridiculous. I used IE for years and never had any spyware problems. Maybe I'm just more careful than most about mindlessly clicking Ok or Yes to every prompt I come across.

I am a firefox user, but I use it because of tabbed browsing, themes, extensions, the fact that most pages render faster, better bookmark handling, the download manager (and probably more that I can't think of at the moment). This is what makes it the better browser, in my opinion. I still use IE for a couple things though, like mapquest. It's not that big of a deal to have to open IE just for one particular site.

And the whole thing about the way firefox and IE present code is nothing new. This has been happening between IE and netscape for years. It's just something web designers have to deal with.
 

Cerb

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Originally posted by: SunnyD
And of course when a student calls in saying that he/she can't get into their online course, we ask what browser they are using - and when they say FireFox, we say "Sorry, that browser isn't supported, the two browsers that are fully validated for use with these applications are the latest versions Netscape and IE."

It's amazing how many script and HTML errors come up in FireFox.
Sounds like some people need to get their heads out of the sand. FF & Netscape use the SAME engine. The only thing going wrong is that a lot of sites look for netscape rather than mozilla (both netscape and FF should come up with the same mozilla info).
 

Cerb

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
4 reasons I use Firefox

Speed
tabbed browsing
pop-up blocker (I know you can get this for IE)
Speed
I wish the main downloads would have some optomized builds. Using the jtw or moox builds really makes a difference.
 

Cerb

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Originally posted by: AmigaMan
I can use either browser just fine and not worry about popups or viruses and their ilk. But for my sister-in-law who goes to some questionable sites or my mother-in-law who accidently gets infected by a virus by visiting some stupid link sent to her in an email, firefox rules. You don't have to worry about activex crap or any other exploits. It lets them browse the web in a safe way and they're protected.
So all you people who are spewing hate for each other just STFU and use the browser you want. Me and my house will use Firefox, and I will continue advocating it to my relatives and friends who are not advanced computer users. For those who are advanced, I'll let them make up their own mind.
The thing is, that should be the point. If you taylor your work around the problems, sure, you'll be fine. However, the browser should allow you do work as you please, with no added risks or annoyances. IE doesn't cut it in that area. Opera and FF do.
 

UnixFreak

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It amazes me how many of you can read the headline of an article, and shut your brains off there.

"why firefox sucks" and immediately you disregard the rest of the information in the article.

I am not "MIA" I am right here. I am waiting for someone to address the article, rather than their dislike for the W3C standard. You dont like the standard? fine, it doesnt change the fact that firefox doesnt adhere to it.

Its so simple it's crazy.

Glad you guys aren't religous or anything.

w3c is not the fuskng interweb. It is a standard made when IE was king. Take it and any other stupid ass 'internet standard compliancy' and shove it up your microsoft browser using ass.

Look at this anger! get some help people. Really.
 

JustAnAverageGuy

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Originally posted by: UnixFreak
It amazes me how many of you can read the headline of an article, and shut your brains off there.

"why firefox sucks" and immediately you disregard the rest of the information in the article.

I am not "MIA" I am right here. I am waiting for someone to address the article, rather than their dislike for the W3C standard. You dont like the standard? fine, it doesnt change the fact that firefox doesnt adhere to it.

Its so simple it's crazy.

Glad you guys aren't religous or anything.

w3c is not the fuskng interweb. It is a standard made when IE was king. Take it and any other stupid ass 'internet standard compliancy' and shove it up your microsoft browser using ass.

Look at this anger! get some help people. Really.

The point everybody is making.

table != text.

Simply because Internet Explorer defaults to the center doesn't mean it's correct.

As demonstrated Here
 

UnixFreak

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Someone that takes the "learn to write code" comment as an offense should get out of the business of making webpages. Yes, the code is W3C compliant, but the W3C doesn't have any guarantees on how the end result is going to look in different browsers

Not the point of the article. The point was to debunk FF preachers' claims of standards adherance. I feel like a broken record!
 

UnixFreak

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table != text.

Simply because Internet Explorer defaults to the center doesn't mean it's correct.

Actually, I specified it to be centered in the style sheet.

Take it up with the W3C. Thats the standard way of centering it, like it or not. Broken record!
 
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