Why firefox sucks

[mobobuff]

Originally posted by: Deeko
Firefox sucks. Just admit it. You use it to be 'geek cool'. I have no problems with spyware or any of that with IE. And my pages render properly and quickly. Fvck firefox.

Extended and agreed.

 

[imported_hscorpio]

In your firefox-demo.htm you simply did not declare how the table should be aligned. Just because you declared the text to be center aligned does not mean the table will also be centered.

You created a table but did not code how it should be aligned. Since you did not do that the browser simply uses it's default alignment. Firefox, opera, & safari have the default alignment set to left. IE's default is center. They are all "correct" unless you can specifically show where the W3C says what the default alignment is.

 

[BudAshes]

that was the most moronic rambling i have read in a while.

 

[Staples]

Well Firefox does not suck but it is over rated around there parts.

Furthermore. Every major release of Firefox is more and more like IE. It is almost a prefect clone now. I don't see how Firefox is so much supperior. Now that it has caught up to IE, there is nothing left to innovate because there is no model to rip off.

 

[CompGeek01]

Oh, the irony.

Excerpt from "Cascading Style Sheets: The Definitive Guide" (Chap. 6, pg 130) :

Although you may be tempted to believe that text-align: center is the same as the < CENTER > element, it's actually quite different. < CENTER > affected not only the text, but also centered whole elements, such as tables. text-align does not control the alignment of elements, only their inline content. Figure 6-5 illustrates this clearly.

I urge you to please look at Figure 6-5.

 

[notfred]

Here's a link to an actually interesting article about CSS properties and why they render the way they do in browsers

It's written by someone who is actually paid to develop a web broswer (Safari), and who is a developer for Firefox as well.

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: Deeko
Firefox sucks. Just admit it. You use it to be 'geek cool'. I have no problems with spyware or any of that with IE. And my pages render properly. Fvck firefox.

WOOP-DEE-FVCKING-DOO. CONGRATFVCKULATIONS.

 

[BigToque]

Originally posted by: notfred
Here's a link to an actually interesting article about CSS properties and why they render the way they do in browsers

It's written by someone who is actually paid to develop a web broswer (Safari), and who is a developer for Firefox as well.

So do the people who design these browsers, make the program standards complient and then add little hacks to the browser to accommodate websites that were written poorly? (an example was finance.yahoo.com in the link you posted).

 

[Snapster]

Pretty much. Take IE, it has an insane ability to make craply scripted pages display legibly. Which is a reason people hate it so much, less strict makes people lazy.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: Ameesh
haha i love:http://www.messedup.net/firefox-demo.htm

well done.

its not centered in opera either

however

opera > ff > IE with adons > ie

:thumbsup:

 

[Frew]

I love firefox

 

[Frew]

Originally posted by: CompGeek01
Oh, the irony.

Excerpt from "Cascading Style Sheets: The Definitive Guide" (Chap. 6, pg 130) :

Although you may be tempted to believe that text-align: center is the same as the < CENTER > element, it's actually quite different. < CENTER > affected not only the text, but also centered whole elements, such as tables. text-align does not control the alignment of elements, only their inline content. Figure 6-5 illustrates this clearly.

I urge you to please look at Figure 6-5.

Did you make a account just to pwn the OP?

 

[aidanjm]

yay for contrarians!

 

[MrDudeMan]

im not sure why you guys think you are pwning unix. im not on anyones side, but everyone against unix so far hasnt proved he is wrong. all you guys are doing is trying to wank your e-penis and prove you know more than him, and it is blatantly obvious that you do not.

quit saying pwned...it isnt even close to that.

 

[xEDIT409]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: Ameesh
haha i love:http://www.messedup.net/firefox-demo.htm

well done.

its not centered in opera either

however

opera > ff > IE with adons > ie

:thumbsup:

Here's another vote for Opera being the one browser to rule them all.

Opera > *

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
all you guys are doing is trying to wank your e-penis and prove you know more than him

:laugh:

 

[Freejack2]

I like both, I've begun to use Firefox more because I'm sick of spyware. I had one case where all I did was mistype a fricken url in IE. Website installs spyware through some unpatched exploit. (Yes my system is current in patches, yes I run adwatch)
With Firefox I don't have to worry about it. For the few pages that don't load in Firefox IEview takes care of that.

 

[Jeff7181]

The OP brings up a good point... for some reason IE centers the table, and the text within the table, when only the text within the table is coded to be centered. FireFox only centers what's coded to be centered.

Which is correct? Find me something that says when the text within a table is centered, the table should be centered too. Till then I will believe that only things coded to be centered should in fact be centered. If it is not coded to be centered, it should align right as the default.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
im not sure why you guys think you are pwning unix. im not on anyones side, but everyone against unix so far hasnt proved he is wrong. all you guys are doing is trying to wank your e-penis and prove you know more than him, and it is blatantly obvious that you do not.

quit saying pwned...it isnt even close to that.

Why don't you actually try reading the thread first next time.

The code he is using is indeed standard code, but is meant to only center the text. IE does it wrong by also centering the table, but Firefox does it correctly.

Basically he is owning himself by claiming IE does it correctly and Firefox is wrong.

 

[ArmenK]

TABS, BITCH

 

[CFster]

Why Opera is better.

Mouse gestures>everything else!

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: CFster
http://nontroppo.org/wiki/WhyOpera">Why Opera is better. </a>

Mouse gestures>everything else!

Friend of mine has a gestures plugin for FireFox...

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: CFster
http://nontroppo.org/wiki/WhyOpera">Why Opera is better. </a>

Mouse gestures>everything else!

1. Learn to link.
2. Just about the only browser without mousegestures is IE, and with the Maxthon plugin you have them in IE too.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
The OP brings up a good point... for some reason IE centers the table, and the text within the table, when only the text within the table is coded to be centered. FireFox only centers what's coded to be centered.

Which is correct? Find me something that says when the text within a table is centered, the table should be centered too. Till then I will believe that only things coded to be centered should in fact be centered. If it is not coded to be centered, it should align right as the default.

you mean left

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
im not sure why you guys think you are pwning unix. im not on anyones side, but everyone against unix so far hasnt proved he is wrong. all you guys are doing is trying to wank your e-penis and prove you know more than him, and it is blatantly obvious that you do not.

quit saying pwned...it isnt even close to that.

Why don't you actually try reading the thread first next time.

The code he is using is indeed standard code, but is meant to only center the text. IE does it wrong by also centering the table, but Firefox does it correctly.

Basically he is owning himself by claiming IE does it correctly and Firefox is wrong.

yes, i'm not sure what is so hard to see... IE just assumes some things not in the W3C standard that Firefox doesn't... neither is more right.

Originally posted by: Supercharged

Originally posted by: redly

btw, I hate tabbed browsing, and I hate the fact the ctrl+n opens to the default page, instead of the page you were on. other than that, I don't notice much of a difference

there is a plugin that makes ctrl+n work exactly the way it does in IE.

edit: it's called Clone Window.

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

Originally posted by: CFster
http://nontroppo.org/wiki/WhyOpera">Why Opera is better. </a>

Mouse gestures>everything else!

Friend of mine has a gestures plugin for FireFox...

perfect examples of why firefox > *