Why firefox sucks

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Kalvin00


Bad formatting is easier to look at than spyware..

I have to say this again. I use IE and have NEVER had spyware on my systems. My GF uses IE and has never had any on her's either.

I have made this challenge over and over and I'll make it again. Send me to a site that puts spyware on my system against my will and without my knowledge.

Just one.

To date, no one can.

That's because if anyone posts one, they'll get banned.

 

[DainBramaged]

I :heart: Firefox

 

[Babbles]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

Originally posted by: CFster
http://nontroppo.org/wiki/WhyOpera">Why Opera is better. </a>

Mouse gestures>everything else!

Friend of mine has a gestures plugin for FireFox...

What makes the mouse gestures so great in Opera is that it is part of the browser; no plugin required. In fact it seems as if the Firefox mouse gestures plugin totally copied the Opera ones. Which is fine, really, just something interesting I think.

I am an Opera fanboy. I have tried Avant browser and was not too impressed. I finally got rid of that and I have Firefox installed. I still prefer Opera (panels with the file transfer, notes, email make it so much easier than any other browser including Firefox) but I occasionaly surf the net with FF just to mix things up.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

:stamp:

Certified Ownage

- M4H

 

[flawlssdistortn]

Originally posted by: Anubis
if you say so

lol, talk about fire-crotch

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Kalvin00


Bad formatting is easier to look at than spyware..

I have to say this again. I use IE and have NEVER had spyware on my systems. My GF uses IE and has never had any on her's either.

I have made this challenge over and over and I'll make it again. Send me to a site that puts spyware on my system against my will and without my knowledge.

Just one.

To date, no one can.

That's because if anyone posts one, they'll get banned.

Ah, is that it?

OK folks, PM the link.

The fact is, you cannot get spyware with IE unless you have your security settings too low, or you click OK to a prompt.

It get lots of TRIES, but no spyware has ever gotten on my machine.

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

Originally posted by: CFster
http://nontroppo.org/wiki/WhyOpera">Why Opera is better. </a>

Mouse gestures>everything else!

Friend of mine has a gestures plugin for FireFox...

That's what I HATE about FireFox.

You have to get this plugin and that plugin and 30 others just to make it nearly as functional as Opera is by default.

I find it easier to spend 5 mintues disabling stuff that I don't need than spend an hour getting the stuff I do.

 

[Aharami]

YOUR PAGE LOOKS LIKE CRAP IN FIREFOX. LEARN TO WRITE HTML DUMBY

 

[xEDIT409]

When that new version of FF came out last year, I was using Opera, and I thought, eh what the hell, let's see check this FF out, right?

DEAR GOD, WHAT WAS I THINKING. I'M SORRY BELOVED OPERA. NEVER AGAIN.

I made this thread listing my reasons why, and here is why Opera imho is better than FF.



1. Scrolling isn't as smooth. If FF has smooth scrolling, then opera has SILKY SOFT SMOOOTHY SCROLLING. Just something my eyes seem notice. It might just be me. Oh and I KNOW I turned on Smooth Scrolling too in FF options, and it still didn't seem right to me.

2. When you middle click with your Mouse wheel to scroll, the little round arrow icon thingy wingy stays with the mouse, where-as in opera, it locks in the middle and you move your mouse up and down to scroll. This is better imo.

3. When closing a tab in opera with the mouse wheel, you don't need to let go of the wheel to have it close. Whereas in FF, you have to click and release to have it Close. It's a small problem, but it's big enough to make me feel like my life will fall apart.

4. My right arm feels like it's gonna go numb when I use FF.

5. In opera, you can hit CTRL+Z to undo the closing of a tab. There is an extension for this in FF, but you can't use CTRL Z with it. You have to right click on empty space, and select "undo tab close". BUT in Opera, What's even cooler is that not only is your tab back from the dead, all the other pages you viewed on the tab before you closed it are there too! It's crazy!

Although these are small gripes, they are enough to fill me with burning rage.

 

[stnicralisk]

Originally posted by: Ornery

Originally posted by: Stefan

2. In your http://www.messedup.net/firefox-demo.htm link, I see no code that is supposed to center the table. The only thing I see is IE is automatically centering the table, whereas FireFox displays it as the code is written (firefox-demo2.htm - is centered in FF because it's specified to be centered).

The 15th line says "text-align: center;"

The text is[\b] aligned centered!

 

[stnicralisk]

Originally posted by: UnixFreak

It's complaint, sure. How your browser treats the complaint code is another story.

maybe you should read the article. After all, thats what the article is about.



Some people, you have to throw the stick, then help them fetch it.

Honestly you are a dolt. Basically if you arent centering the table in your code and IE does it for you that doesnt mean firefox sucks. You could write an article about how great IE is for doing this for you but writing an article about how firefox sucks because it doesnt automatically align the table to center but instead the body as you specified is pretty juvenile.

I think that you may well be a troll. You want to convince a bunch of computer illiterate people that a browser sucks through smoke and mirrors.

People have posted links that explain how to properly center a table and a link to your precious W3C that even itself states that the CSS code you used is for centering text. Somehow though you continue to blab on and on about how no one is listening to you. Did you ever stop to think that you're the one who is not listening?

 

[BlackAdam]

Opera is such a pile... Firefox for life!

 

[stnicralisk]

Originally posted by: stnicralisk

Originally posted by: Ornery

Originally posted by: Stefan

2. In your http://www.messedup.net/firefox-demo.htm link, I see no code that is supposed to center the table. The only thing I see is IE is automatically centering the table, whereas FireFox displays it as the code is written (firefox-demo2.htm - is centered in FF because it's specified to be centered).

The 15th line says "text-align: center;"

The text is aligned centered!

 

[bhanson]

UnixFreak,

Good evening sir, I am not going to flame you, nor resort to any form of personal attacks. I am merely going to deal with the facts, and the facts only, while remaining as objective as possible.

From a quote you made:

"Firefox is neat because it adheres to standards"

they are wrong. And I proved it. And everyones feverish replies and flames only prove that my assertion that firefox users are too religious is 100% on the mark.

So as to see eye-to-eye, I would not consider myself part of this "religious movement" that you are referencing to often enough. Could you kindly point out the part where you proved that Firefox does not adhere to W3.org standards? I would be more than obliged to debate on your behalf if you can prove your points to me.

While on the state of debate, I just created a page in which I based my code directly from W3.org standards, and had a set design in my head. You may view it here:

http://www.bradhanson.net/browsers/

For reference, this was my intended look:

http://www.bradhanson.net/browers/look.jpg

Now using the same point you were trying make, why does it not look good in Internet Explorer? I used proper web coding techniques as described by the W3C. I believe this shows a flaw in your logic used in your original post.

You are more than welcome to debate this with me on a civil level.

Regards

 

[Vic]

I use FF because I hate popups (just like everyone else does). FF has a built-in popup blocker that actually blocks 99.9% of all popups. IE requires the use of a 3rd party popup blocker, most of which are only about 75% effective. I believe that the reason that IE is so open to popups is because some many major sites (CNN, you name it, etc.) use popups for ad revenue and MS doesn't want to step on that even though popups are probably the most hated thing on the internet.
Therefore IMO, FF > IE. It's that simple.

 

Another firefox vs IE thread, how useless.

Any truly productive and resourceful person uses what he needs to get the job done. That usually means using a slew of different tools.
When dealing with internet browsers, that means using both IE and FF.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Vic
I use FF because I hate popups (just like everyone else does). FF has a built-in popup blocker that actually blocks 99.9% of all popups. IE requires the use of a 3rd party popup blocker, most of which are only about 75% effective. I believe that the reason that IE is so open to popups is because some many major sites (CNN, you name it, etc.) use popups for ad revenue and MS doesn't want to step on that even though popups are probably the most hated thing on the internet.
Therefore IMO, FF > IE. It's that simple.

You are aware that XP SP2 included a built in popup blocker for IE, right?

Guess not.

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Vic
I use FF because I hate popups (just like everyone else does). FF has a built-in popup blocker that actually blocks 99.9% of all popups. IE requires the use of a 3rd party popup blocker, most of which are only about 75% effective. I believe that the reason that IE is so open to popups is because some many major sites (CNN, you name it, etc.) use popups for ad revenue and MS doesn't want to step on that even though popups are probably the most hated thing on the internet.
Therefore IMO, FF > IE. It's that simple.

You are aware that XP SP1 included a built in popup blocker for IE, right?

Guess not.

You mean SP2, right?

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Vic
I use FF because I hate popups (just like everyone else does). FF has a built-in popup blocker that actually blocks 99.9% of all popups. IE requires the use of a 3rd party popup blocker, most of which are only about 75% effective. I believe that the reason that IE is so open to popups is because some many major sites (CNN, you name it, etc.) use popups for ad revenue and MS doesn't want to step on that even though popups are probably the most hated thing on the internet.
Therefore IMO, FF > IE. It's that simple.

You are aware that XP SP2 included a built in popup blocker for IE, right?

Guess not.

You mean SP2, right?

Um, yeah. That's what I meant.

See? That's what I said all along.

 

[JetBlack69]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Vic
I use FF because I hate popups (just like everyone else does). FF has a built-in popup blocker that actually blocks 99.9% of all popups. IE requires the use of a 3rd party popup blocker, most of which are only about 75% effective. I believe that the reason that IE is so open to popups is because some many major sites (CNN, you name it, etc.) use popups for ad revenue and MS doesn't want to step on that even though popups are probably the most hated thing on the internet.
Therefore IMO, FF > IE. It's that simple.

You are aware that XP SP1 included a built in popup blocker for IE, right?

Guess not.

That came in SP2.

EDIT: Nevermind, simple typo.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Amused
You are aware that XP SP1 included a built in popup blocker for IE, right?

Guess not.

My Win2kPro install is almost 3 years old, having survived through 2 motherboard upgrades, 3 cpu upgrades, and 3 primary HDD upgrades, yet is still rock-solid stable, fast, and lean. So why should I have to pay to upgrade to an inferior, bloated, and less stable OS simply because it includes a feature that is available for free in a competing browser? And where I would have had to have called MS and begged their permission to keep using the OS that I paid for at each upgrade?

edit: and yeah, that was SP2. And yes, I use XP at work everyday, plus have done multiple XP installs for friends, family, etc. I know all about it.

 

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Amused
You are aware that XP SP1 included a built in popup blocker for IE, right?

Guess not.

My Win2kPro install is almost 3 years old, having survived through 2 motherboard upgrades, 3 cpu upgrades, and 3 primary HDD upgrades, yet still rock-solid stable, fast, and lean. So why should I have to pay to upgrade to an inferior, bloated, and less stable OS simply because it includes a feature that is available for free in a competing browser?

Maxathon providing everything you tout as a need that only FF provides, for free, using the IE core.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: JetBlack69

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Vic
I use FF because I hate popups (just like everyone else does). FF has a built-in popup blocker that actually blocks 99.9% of all popups. IE requires the use of a 3rd party popup blocker, most of which are only about 75% effective. I believe that the reason that IE is so open to popups is because some many major sites (CNN, you name it, etc.) use popups for ad revenue and MS doesn't want to step on that even though popups are probably the most hated thing on the internet.
Therefore IMO, FF > IE. It's that simple.

You are aware that XP SP2 included a built in popup blocker for IE, right?

Guess not.

That came in SP2.

I know. That's what I said. See my quote? ^^^

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Amused
You are aware that XP SP1 included a built in popup blocker for IE, right?

Guess not.

My Win2kPro install is almost 3 years old, having survived through 2 motherboard upgrades, 3 cpu upgrades, and 3 primary HDD upgrades, yet is still rock-solid stable, fast, and lean. So why should I have to pay to upgrade to an inferior, bloated, and less stable OS simply because it includes a feature that is available for free in a competing browser? And where I would have had to have called MS and begged their permission to keep using the OS that I paid for at each upgrade?

edit: and yeah, that was SP2. And yes, I use XP at work everyday, plus have done multiple XP installs for friends, family, etc. I know all about it.

Nothing I have experienced with XP leads me to believe it is less stable than 2K. But everything I have seen leads me to believe it's more user friendly and compatible.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: SampSon
Maxathon providing everything you tout as a need that only FF provides, for free, using the IE core.

So.... ? Am I supposed to be loyal to IE?
If it's supposed to be about loyalty, then I used Netscape long before I ever used IE, primarily because IE before IE4 sucked balls.