Why is LSD illegal?

[1prophet]

LSD hotdog :shocked::laugh:

 

[Hyperlite]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel

Originally posted by: Ns1
lsd is not for the noobish.

I never worked up the guts to try it. Heard a few nightmare stories of trips gone crazy. Can a bad trip actually scar you (psychologically) for life?

Not for any normal person.

When the government was doing research on the subject, the doses required to fsck someones mind over were mind boggling. Nobody would ever do that much at once on their own.

There is no logical reason LSD is illegal, just like there is no logical reason marijuana is illegal.

Granted, LSD shouldn't be compared to marijuana, but it is arguably just as safe. It isn't going to kill you. It's not addictive. I've never heard of an LSD junkie. You just don't do that.

It has a strange "hard drug" stigma around it with most people. Many of the same people have no problems with mushrooms, though. Even though LSD is more intense than mushrooms, its certainly in the same vein.

LSD isn't something people do just to get fucked up on a whim, like you can with marijuana or alcohol. It tends to be more planned out and purposeful.

IT isn't going to kill you, but the argument is that what you might do while on it could kill you.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: funkymatt

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel

Originally posted by: Ns1
lsd is not for the noobish.

I never worked up the guts to try it. Heard a few nightmare stories of trips gone crazy. Can a bad trip actually scar you (psychologically) for life?

Never happened to me, but look at Syd Barret.


On a semi related note, I somewhat bad tripped once. I was really into Pink Floyd at the time, and I somehow convinced myself that I was Syd Barret, gone completely insane and to remain that way for the rest of my life.

I should've listened to myself the first time I said "just go to sleep and everything will be fine in the morning"


LSD is definitely not some newbie shit.

heh.

i thought i was ringo starr for a good 6 hours. accent and everything, apparently. point of the story, don't watch the yellow submarine while tripping face.

yeaaaaaaah "wish you were here" probably wasn't the best track for me to play lol

 

[Unmoosical]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel

Originally posted by: Ns1
lsd is not for the noobish.

I never worked up the guts to try it. Heard a few nightmare stories of trips gone crazy. Can a bad trip actually scar you (psychologically) for life?

There are people who never get out of the bad trip. They wind up in mental wards.

I did a LOT of lsd. I can totally understand why it's illegal. You DO NOT want people to have access to this stuff.

I'm calling your bluff. You really think people end up in mental wards because of LSD? I'm a skeptic.

LSD is relatively safe. It's not addictive and you have to have something like 1000 times the effective dose before you OD on it.

 

[blackdogdeek]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: blackdogdeek

Originally posted by: Ns1
cuz you can go fucking crazy and hurt yourself


lsd is not for the noobish.

you could also hurt others.

by the same standards alcohol should certainly be banned.

agreed.

but we're not debating whether or not alcohol should be banned. i'm just citing possible reasons why i think lsd is illegal.

 

[theprodigalrebel]

Originally posted by: Ns1
Never happened to me, but look at Syd Barret.

On a semi related note, I somewhat bad tripped once. I was really into Pink Floyd at the time, and I somehow convinced myself that I was Syd Barret, gone completely insane and to remain that way for the rest of my life.

I knew this guy that went on a road trip with a few friends (State called Goa, about 450 miles from where I live). He tripped on some acid, went out for a walk, caught a bus, and 24 hours later came back home.

He left his cell in the hotel room and his friends had no freaking idea where he was. I had to call them and tell them he was safe, back home.

It's a funny story but I imagine a lot could have gone wrong.

Barret was way too extreme though. I figure something like that might happen to a small minority of users but it still sounds freaky to me.

 

[MisterJackson]

This should clear things up for you.....

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Unmoosical

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel

Originally posted by: Ns1
lsd is not for the noobish.

I never worked up the guts to try it. Heard a few nightmare stories of trips gone crazy. Can a bad trip actually scar you (psychologically) for life?

There are people who never get out of the bad trip. They wind up in mental wards.

I did a LOT of lsd. I can totally understand why it's illegal. You DO NOT want people to have access to this stuff.

I'm calling your bluff. You really think people end up in mental wards because of LSD? I'm a skeptic.

LSD is relatively safe. It's not addictive and you have to have something like 1000 times the effective dose before you OD on it.

Yes. I was really into it for quite a while. Did all kinds of research. They are essentially perpetually tripping.

Of course it's rare, but it does happen. OH, and an OD does is something like 100,000 (or some wild number) times a 50 microgram dose.

 

[Beev]

Originally posted by: shoRunner
this has got to be one of the stupidest topics I've seen in awhile, my hat's off to you OP

Because of my original post (where I pointed out that I was ignorant) or all of the responses?

The responses I have seen thus far have been helpful to me, mostly.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Unmoosical

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel

Originally posted by: Ns1
lsd is not for the noobish.

I never worked up the guts to try it. Heard a few nightmare stories of trips gone crazy. Can a bad trip actually scar you (psychologically) for life?

There are people who never get out of the bad trip. They wind up in mental wards.

I did a LOT of lsd. I can totally understand why it's illegal. You DO NOT want people to have access to this stuff.

I'm calling your bluff. You really think people end up in mental wards because of LSD? I'm a skeptic.

LSD is relatively safe. It's not addictive and you have to have something like 1000 times the effective dose before you OD on it.

Yes. I was really into it for quite a while. Did all kinds of research. They are essentially perpetually tripping.

Of course it's rare, but it does happen. OH, and an OD does is something like 100,000 (or some wild number) times a 50 microgram dose.

You mean perma-fried? I've also heard stories, but they're just that, "stories". Not saying if it's true or not, but can't verify/too lazy to verify.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Hyperlite

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel

Originally posted by: Ns1
lsd is not for the noobish.

I never worked up the guts to try it. Heard a few nightmare stories of trips gone crazy. Can a bad trip actually scar you (psychologically) for life?

Not for any normal person.

When the government was doing research on the subject, the doses required to fsck someones mind over were mind boggling. Nobody would ever do that much at once on their own.

There is no logical reason LSD is illegal, just like there is no logical reason marijuana is illegal.

Granted, LSD shouldn't be compared to marijuana, but it is arguably just as safe. It isn't going to kill you. It's not addictive. I've never heard of an LSD junkie. You just don't do that.

It has a strange "hard drug" stigma around it with most people. Many of the same people have no problems with mushrooms, though. Even though LSD is more intense than mushrooms, its certainly in the same vein.

LSD isn't something people do just to get fucked up on a whim, like you can with marijuana or alcohol. It tends to be more planned out and purposeful.

IT isn't going to kill you, but the argument is that what you might do while on it could kill you.

I dunno. I guess.

I'm always completely lucid, aware of my surroundings and my actions when I trip, but I do understand that not everyone is like this.

Same problem with alcohol, or really any other drug though....

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Unmoosical

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel

Originally posted by: Ns1
lsd is not for the noobish.

I never worked up the guts to try it. Heard a few nightmare stories of trips gone crazy. Can a bad trip actually scar you (psychologically) for life?

There are people who never get out of the bad trip. They wind up in mental wards.

I did a LOT of lsd. I can totally understand why it's illegal. You DO NOT want people to have access to this stuff.

I'm calling your bluff. You really think people end up in mental wards because of LSD? I'm a skeptic.

LSD is relatively safe. It's not addictive and you have to have something like 1000 times the effective dose before you OD on it.

Yes. I was really into it for quite a while. Did all kinds of research. They are essentially perpetually tripping.

Of course it's rare, but it does happen. OH, and an OD does is something like 100,000 (or some wild number) times a 50 microgram dose.

You mean perma-fried? I've also heard stories, but they're just that, "stories". Not saying if it's true or not, but can't verify/too lazy to verify.

you might end up like lewis black?

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Unmoosical

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel

Originally posted by: Ns1
lsd is not for the noobish.

I never worked up the guts to try it. Heard a few nightmare stories of trips gone crazy. Can a bad trip actually scar you (psychologically) for life?

There are people who never get out of the bad trip. They wind up in mental wards.

I did a LOT of lsd. I can totally understand why it's illegal. You DO NOT want people to have access to this stuff.

I'm calling your bluff. You really think people end up in mental wards because of LSD? I'm a skeptic.

LSD is relatively safe. It's not addictive and you have to have something like 1000 times the effective dose before you OD on it.

Yes. I was really into it for quite a while. Did all kinds of research. They are essentially perpetually tripping.

Of course it's rare, but it does happen. OH, and an OD does is something like 100,000 (or some wild number) times a 50 microgram dose.

according to wiki, the single confirmed overdose was something like 30000 regular doses

 

[Beev]

How the hell do you even get 30000 times a regular dose? And wouldn't that be expensive as hell?

 

[RKS]

Originally posted by: blackdogdeek

Originally posted by: Ns1
cuz you can go fucking crazy and hurt yourself


lsd is not for the noobish.

you could also hurt others.

that's why you always have a spotter who is not tripping while you are.

I haven't had any flashbacks and I hope I don't have major genetic mutations but I never was nor would not have been comfortable tripping alone.


It's definitely not for the timid. You should use mushrooms as the gateway drug before graduating to acid.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: Beev
How the hell do you even get 30000 times a regular dose? And wouldn't that be expensive as hell?

bulk discount on 10 pounds or more?

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Beev
How the hell do you even get 30000 times a regular dose? And wouldn't that be expensive as hell?

You have to have the government curious about how much it would take to kill a man

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: Beev
How the hell do you even get 30000 times a regular dose? And wouldn't that be expensive as hell?

hold bottle of acid

fall down

break said bottle of acid

.....

go crazy

 

[Vehemence]

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: Beev
How the hell do you even get 30000 times a regular dose? And wouldn't that be expensive as hell?

bulk discount on 10 pounds or more?

Alternator sized and only bought online.

 

[Savij]

This is why it's illegal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpmjHrmNI9I

 

[child of wonder]

Marijuana really doesn't do a lot of harm physically but my ex brother-in-law is a perfect example of how it's harmful.

His family all smokes pot and he has been since he was a young teen. He's a complete loser and has zero ambition in life. When he was laid off from a decent job he had, he was eligible to go on a state program that would give him a free two year college education. He was too lazy to go take the tests to qualify and passed up on a free college education. I confronted him on this and his typically pothead argument was "well, maybe I don't want the same things in life that you do."

No shit.

 

[Unmoosical]

Originally posted by: Savij
This is why it's illegal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpmjHrmNI9I

I hate this video for a few reasons but my main gripe is that the cat doesn't know what is going to happen. It doesn't know that it was drugged. Humans understand that they are under the influence and act accordingly.

And this is why other drugs are illegal....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHzdsFiBbFc

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: child of wonder
Marijuana really doesn't do a lot of harm physically but my ex brother-in-law is a perfect example of how it's harmful.

His family all smokes pot and he has been since he was a young teen. He's a complete loser and has zero ambition in life. When he was laid off from a decent job he had, he was eligible to go on a state program that would give him a free two year college education. He was too lazy to go take the tests to qualify and passed up on a free college education. I confronted him on this and his typically pothead argument was "well, maybe I don't want the same things in life that you do."

No shit.

sounds like he's a lazy sack of shit

pothead =/= lazy sack of shit

of course if he's happy then whatever, it's a moot point.

 

[imported_Baloo]

It can hurt you, make no mistake. A driver swerving to avoid a large purple poka-dotted dino into the path of a large on-coming tracter-trailer is gonna get hurt. A pedestrian stepping left onto railroad tracks and into the path of an oncomng high speed train to get around the pillsbury doughboy is gonna get hurt.

Were you just being silly suggesting it can't hurt you?

 

[blackdogdeek]

Originally posted by: Beev
How the hell do you even get 30000 times a regular dose? And wouldn't that be expensive as hell?

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