Why is Marijuana Illegal???????

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: N8Magic

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt


People under the effects of pot can LEAVE their homes and yards. Jesus! Where the hell is your logic? You're almost as bad at reasoning as the potheads. People who are high on pot do not reason well. The do STUPID THINGS. They run the risk of leaving their humble abode and killing others, potentially.

So either lobby for all of this crap to be illegal and deal with a safer society (ooo, that's gonna be hard), or lobby for all this crap to be legal and deal with a worse society.

I choose a better society.

Let me start by saying that your debating skills are pretty poor.

Where is YOUR logic? Using your example, alcohol should also be illegal because someone might drive after having 6 beers. Maybe they should only sell 1 beer at a time and then make you take a breathalyzer before you can purchase the next one?

Can you give examples of poor reasoning and stupid things that people do when they're under the influence? You make it sound like anyone who smokes a joint is automatically converted into a raving mass murderer lunatic while they're under the influence. Being someone who has smoked before, I can tell you that you couldn't be further from the truth. If anything, I sat on my ass and told jokes to my friends while listening to music. I had no desire to go out and drive around, nor did I want to go out and cause trouble.

Until you have first hand experience, you have no idea. It's nothing like getting drunk and rowdy like you seem to think.

Spoken like someone who ACTUALLY has experience. I can vouch for this. When I get high, I'm much more inclined to sit on my butt and listen to music or watch a good movie. In short, I'm RELAXING. I'm not getting drunk and obnoxious or thinking that I can drive my car when I obviously can't. Go ask a group of marijuana users what they do, and the majority of them are going to come back with the same answer.

That's YOU. That's not EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD.

Oh, and I'm sure you've asked the rest of the world, haven't you? Get your head out of your ass.

And you have!? Right...

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Jzero

Pot lessens people's ability to reason. Someone might do something that they think is cool, cute, funny, wtf ever. You never know what that person will do. If that leads to deaths, then that leads to deaths. Just because you can't see it happening, doesn't mean it won't. You give too much credit to the fools of today.

SO does LOTS of things that are LEGAL. You don't give ENOUGH credit to the majority of society.

Maybe I don't. Either way, you're nothing short of a hypocrite if you lobby against one and not another.

So.....do YOU lobby against alcohol and tobacco, then?
I certainly do not. I support all three being legal but I'm in favor of them being regulated and controlled. I do my best to consistently support the notion that the government need to protect people from themselves nor need it attempt to legislate stupidity.

If the conversation comes up, I won't support anything other than the person's right to choose unless it's a situation where others are being effected outside of their control.

You didn't answer the question. Do you lobby against those other two legalized vices? Both CAN affect people outside their control if used improperly. So do you believe that tobacco and alcohol should also both be made illegal on that basis that a minority of morons might hurt someone else?

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Eli
Do you "against legalization" people realize why we compare it to alcohol so much? The fact is, they aren't really even comparable, besides the fact that they're both drugs.

We compare it to alcohol because alcohol is far more powerful a drug, yet it is legal. That's what boggles the mind.

"powerful" is a word that is open to interpretation. Some people have an easier time controlling themselves while under the influence of alcohol than they do under the influence of marajuana. Some have it the other way around.

This is true, but alcohol is still far more imparing than cannabis.

You can be high as a kite, and you're still going to function reasonably well. A very drunk person is lucky to be concious, let alone functioning. Alcohol is a more powerful drug.

Basically, it fscks you up more.

 

[chrisms]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

People under the effects of pot can LEAVE their homes and yards. Jesus! Where the hell is your logic? You're almost as bad at reasoning as the potheads. People who are high on pot do not reason well. The do STUPID THINGS. They run the risk of leaving their humble abode and killing others, potentially.

So either lobby for all of this crap to be illegal and deal with a safer society (ooo, that's gonna be hard), or lobby for all this crap to be legal and deal with a worse society.

I choose a better society.

First of all, let me just say you are an ignorant moron. Pot does not cause one to kill another.

Second, by your logic, we should ban things that "worsen society." Well let's outlaw fast food for making almost half of all Americans fat. Let's outlaw movies and videogames because they badly influence our youth. Let's outlaw anything with a negative or degrading music and speech, it only hurts others and the society. Let's outlaw leaving the country, we need our talent to stay here and not worsen the society. Let's have each give according to his ability, recieve according to his need, poverty hurts the society. Let's be communists.

Third, you're right, a marijuana user can leave their house. Whether that hurts anyone or not is debatable, but most would agree that with decriminilization public use would still be illegal.

Fourth, making marijuana illegal doesn't stop anyone from using it. In fact I would argue it increases use, most high school students have easier access to illegal marijuana than they do to government controlled alcohol. About 50% of high school students in the past 10 years have smoked pot.

This country is all about individual freedoms, isn't it? Well it was supposed to be. Don't tell me what I can put into my own body. What, are we doing to punish God for creating the marijuana plant? This is a naturally occuring plant, how can you outlaw such a thing?

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: N8Magic

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Encryptic
Spoken like someone who ACTUALLY has experience. I can vouch for this. When I get high, I'm much more inclined to sit on my butt and listen to music or watch a good movie. In short, I'm RELAXING. I'm not getting drunk and obnoxious or thinking that I can drive my car when I obviously can't. Go ask a group of marijuana users what they do, and the majority of them are going to come back with the same answer.

That's YOU. That's not EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD.

You're right, that's me.

... and everyone else I know that smokes marijuana. (and there are no shortage of pot smokers in Canada)

Yup. You know all of them. You know everyone in the world who smokes pot. And, because you also know everyone in the world who will smoke pot in the future, your being relaxed when you smoke it actually proves something.

 

[PHiuR]

anyone else here believes that FFMCobalt needs a good toke? haha

 

[N8Magic]

And I might add, how much first-hand experience do you have with pot smokers?

I do believe I recall you saying you would never socialize with a pot smoker.

So where are you getting your information from? The DARE adds on TV? They're not a biased source or anything.

 

[Encryptic]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: N8Magic

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt


People under the effects of pot can LEAVE their homes and yards. Jesus! Where the hell is your logic? You're almost as bad at reasoning as the potheads. People who are high on pot do not reason well. The do STUPID THINGS. They run the risk of leaving their humble abode and killing others, potentially.

So either lobby for all of this crap to be illegal and deal with a safer society (ooo, that's gonna be hard), or lobby for all this crap to be legal and deal with a worse society.

I choose a better society.

Let me start by saying that your debating skills are pretty poor.

Where is YOUR logic? Using your example, alcohol should also be illegal because someone might drive after having 6 beers. Maybe they should only sell 1 beer at a time and then make you take a breathalyzer before you can purchase the next one?

Can you give examples of poor reasoning and stupid things that people do when they're under the influence? You make it sound like anyone who smokes a joint is automatically converted into a raving mass murderer lunatic while they're under the influence. Being someone who has smoked before, I can tell you that you couldn't be further from the truth. If anything, I sat on my ass and told jokes to my friends while listening to music. I had no desire to go out and drive around, nor did I want to go out and cause trouble.

Until you have first hand experience, you have no idea. It's nothing like getting drunk and rowdy like you seem to think.

Spoken like someone who ACTUALLY has experience. I can vouch for this. When I get high, I'm much more inclined to sit on my butt and listen to music or watch a good movie. In short, I'm RELAXING. I'm not getting drunk and obnoxious or thinking that I can drive my car when I obviously can't. Go ask a group of marijuana users what they do, and the majority of them are going to come back with the same answer.

That's YOU. That's not EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD.

Oh, and I'm sure you've asked the rest of the world, haven't you? Get your head out of your ass.

And you have!? Right...

Snappy comeback.

Try hanging out with people who actually smoke pot and get high with them before you make claims you can't back up. I have done so on numerous occasions and I'm speaking from my experience. Where did you get your facts from? Reefer Madness?

 

[Electric Amish]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

How can you ignore the fact that we spend so much money putting harmless people away due to the so called drug war when something like alcohol is legal with certain rules and taxed?

I don't agree with that totally. Some are jailed there with good drug-based reasons such as selling to young kids. Others are correctly jailed based on the drug crime when that's the only evidence the police can get on them e.g. a known burglar jailed for pot possession. It's a way to get a known criminal off the streets if you can't get him on evidence of his normal crime.

Finally, I'm sure there are many that are/were just harmless recreational users, which is very unfortunate.

If made legal, laws could be erected to prevent some of the problems e.g. driving while intoxicated, selling/usage by minors, etc.

amish

Well, I agree with that.. but still, the drug war causes more problems than it solves by creating an underground criminal network. The drug war is what allows such an entity to function. If you could buy it with your pack of cigarettes, they wouldn't be able to charge so much for it, the criminals wouldn't be able to make money, and the selling of cannabis on the streets would shrink to the point that cigs have. You wouldn't sell it to make money, you would give it out just like people who smoke cigs do. Know what I mean?

That is true. Crime syndicates certainly fund their organizations through drug trafficking, which would partially go away with legalization. It could remain and undermine the government's taxation hold on the product; meaning it's cheaper to get it underground than legally, not that that's a good argument for or against legalization.

I'm personally all for legalization.

amish

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: N8Magic

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Encryptic
Spoken like someone who ACTUALLY has experience. I can vouch for this. When I get high, I'm much more inclined to sit on my butt and listen to music or watch a good movie. In short, I'm RELAXING. I'm not getting drunk and obnoxious or thinking that I can drive my car when I obviously can't. Go ask a group of marijuana users what they do, and the majority of them are going to come back with the same answer.

That's YOU. That's not EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD.

You're right, that's me.

... and everyone else I know that smokes marijuana. (and there are no shortage of pot smokers in Canada)

Yup. You know all of them. You know everyone in the world who smokes pot. And, because you also know everyone in the world who will smoke pot in the future, your being relaxed when you smoke it actually proves something.

I really don't understand your hostility towards pot.. It's pretty unfounded. You have some sort of personal vendetta against it, you're not using logic..

I'm sure you've been drunk. Being drunk is far worse an experience than being stoned. You loose control of yourself when you're drunk, that does not happen when you smoke. Nobody ever gets high and then completely forgets what happened the day before....

It's more like.. "Dude.. That was cool."

 

[Encryptic]

Originally posted by: PHiuR
anyone else here believes that FFMCobalt needs a good toke? haha

He needs a good toke and a good chill session with some real pot smokers before he starts running off at the mouth about something he has no clue about.

 

[N8Magic]

Originally posted by: PHiuR
anyone else here believes that FFMCobalt needs a good toke? haha

... or a CAT scan to check for brain anomalies.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: chrisms

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

People under the effects of pot can LEAVE their homes and yards. Jesus! Where the hell is your logic? You're almost as bad at reasoning as the potheads. People who are high on pot do not reason well. The do STUPID THINGS. They run the risk of leaving their humble abode and killing others, potentially.

So either lobby for all of this crap to be illegal and deal with a safer society (ooo, that's gonna be hard), or lobby for all this crap to be legal and deal with a worse society.

I choose a better society.

First of all, let me just say you are an ignorant moron. Pot does not cause one to kill another.

I never said that. Read. I said that pot causes people to make irrational choices. Choices that can't be predicted.

Second, by your logic, we should ban things that "worsen society." Well let's outlaw fast food for making almost half of all Americans fat. Let's outlaw movies and videogames because they badly influence our youth. Let's outlaw anything with a negative or degrading music and speech, it only hurts others and the society. Let's outlaw leaving the country, we need our talent to stay here and not worsen the society. Let's have each give according to his ability, recieve according to his need, poverty hurts the society. Let's be communists.

I don't have a problem with ousting fast food. Movies and videogames only influence you if you let them. That's your fault. The same point goes to derogatory remarks made in music and speech. Your leaving the country point is... pointless. Communism isn't based on banning things that shouldn't have a place in society.

Third, you're right, a marijuana user can leave their house. Whether that hurts anyone or not is debatable, but most would agree that with decriminilization public use would still be illegal.

I have not seen people argue it. I've seen people get wittled down to that last leg, but I haven't seen people lobby for the decriminalization of marajuana for home-only use. Maybe I need to get out more?

Fourth, making marijuana illegal doesn't stop anyone from using it. In fact I would argue it increases use, most high school students have easier access to illegal marijuana than they do to government controlled alcohol. About 50% of high school students in the past 10 years have smoked pot.

That's because people think it's cool to brake the law.

Yeah, that one's obvious.

This country is all about individual freedoms, isn't it? Well it was supposed to be. Don't tell me what I can put into my own body. What, are we doing to punish God for creating the marijuana plant? This is a naturally occuring plant, how can you outlaw such a thing?

This country is about individual freedoms that don't infringe on the rights of others. Just because it's natural doesn't mean you should smoke it up and drastically lower the quality of life for others in the way you react to it in public.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: N8Magic

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt


People under the effects of pot can LEAVE their homes and yards. Jesus! Where the hell is your logic? You're almost as bad at reasoning as the potheads. People who are high on pot do not reason well. The do STUPID THINGS. They run the risk of leaving their humble abode and killing others, potentially.

So either lobby for all of this crap to be illegal and deal with a safer society (ooo, that's gonna be hard), or lobby for all this crap to be legal and deal with a worse society.

I choose a better society.

Let me start by saying that your debating skills are pretty poor.

Where is YOUR logic? Using your example, alcohol should also be illegal because someone might drive after having 6 beers. Maybe they should only sell 1 beer at a time and then make you take a breathalyzer before you can purchase the next one?

Can you give examples of poor reasoning and stupid things that people do when they're under the influence? You make it sound like anyone who smokes a joint is automatically converted into a raving mass murderer lunatic while they're under the influence. Being someone who has smoked before, I can tell you that you couldn't be further from the truth. If anything, I sat on my ass and told jokes to my friends while listening to music. I had no desire to go out and drive around, nor did I want to go out and cause trouble.

Until you have first hand experience, you have no idea. It's nothing like getting drunk and rowdy like you seem to think.

Spoken like someone who ACTUALLY has experience. I can vouch for this. When I get high, I'm much more inclined to sit on my butt and listen to music or watch a good movie. In short, I'm RELAXING. I'm not getting drunk and obnoxious or thinking that I can drive my car when I obviously can't. Go ask a group of marijuana users what they do, and the majority of them are going to come back with the same answer.

That's YOU. That's not EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD.

Oh, and I'm sure you've asked the rest of the world, haven't you? Get your head out of your ass.

And you have!? Right...

Snappy comeback.

Try hanging out with people who actually smoke pot and get high with them before you make claims you can't back up. I have done so on numerous occasions and I'm speaking from my experience. Where did you get your facts from? Reefer Madness?

My uncle used to run one of the largest groups in the greater portland metro area for the legalization of pot. If you've been around long enough to remember "Town Hall" on TV, it's a good bet you saw his face on TV on multiple occasions.

 

[Electric Amish]

Originally posted by: N8Magic

Originally posted by: PHiuR
anyone else here believes that FFMCobalt needs a good toke? haha

... or a CAT scan to check for brain anomalies.

Give him a break. My wife and I were very similar coming out of our indoctrination during Middle and High school and my brain-washing in church. Man, they just blast away at you with all the "BAD" things about drugs. My wife was part of the "Peer Leadership" group that ran around spreading the anti-drug propaganda.

After we became of age, we loosened up and started drinking a little. Until just recently we'd never had the desire or situation to try anything else. Well, we tried smoking a little and all the phallacies spread throughout school were washed away.

amish

 

[Encryptic]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt


My uncle used to run one of the largest groups in the greater portland metro area for the legalization of pot. If you've been around long enough to remember "Town Hall" on TV, it's a good bet you saw his face on TV on multiple occasions.

And....? What are you trying to prove? That your uncle is an idiot?

Again, have you EVER actually hung out with people who smoked pot and smoked it yourself, before forming all these opinions? Or are you just bagging on something because you have no experience with it?

 

[PHiuR]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: N8Magic

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt


People under the effects of pot can LEAVE their homes and yards. Jesus! Where the hell is your logic? You're almost as bad at reasoning as the potheads. People who are high on pot do not reason well. The do STUPID THINGS. They run the risk of leaving their humble abode and killing others, potentially.

So either lobby for all of this crap to be illegal and deal with a safer society (ooo, that's gonna be hard), or lobby for all this crap to be legal and deal with a worse society.

I choose a better society.

Let me start by saying that your debating skills are pretty poor.

Where is YOUR logic? Using your example, alcohol should also be illegal because someone might drive after having 6 beers. Maybe they should only sell 1 beer at a time and then make you take a breathalyzer before you can purchase the next one?

Can you give examples of poor reasoning and stupid things that people do when they're under the influence? You make it sound like anyone who smokes a joint is automatically converted into a raving mass murderer lunatic while they're under the influence. Being someone who has smoked before, I can tell you that you couldn't be further from the truth. If anything, I sat on my ass and told jokes to my friends while listening to music. I had no desire to go out and drive around, nor did I want to go out and cause trouble.

Until you have first hand experience, you have no idea. It's nothing like getting drunk and rowdy like you seem to think.

Spoken like someone who ACTUALLY has experience. I can vouch for this. When I get high, I'm much more inclined to sit on my butt and listen to music or watch a good movie. In short, I'm RELAXING. I'm not getting drunk and obnoxious or thinking that I can drive my car when I obviously can't. Go ask a group of marijuana users what they do, and the majority of them are going to come back with the same answer.

That's YOU. That's not EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD.

Oh, and I'm sure you've asked the rest of the world, haven't you? Get your head out of your ass.

And you have!? Right...

Snappy comeback.

Try hanging out with people who actually smoke pot and get high with them before you make claims you can't back up. I have done so on numerous occasions and I'm speaking from my experience. Where did you get your facts from? Reefer Madness?

My uncle used to run one of the largest groups in the greater portland metro area for the legalization of pot. If you've been around long enough to remember "Town Hall" on TV, it's a good bet you saw his face on TV on multiple occasions.

so. are you saying your uncle is the "serial killer" uncle?

cuz we all know we have 3 different types...

the drunk uncle
the child-molester uncle
and the serial killer ----im not too sure if this is it...

hehehe anyone else remember the three or 4 types of uncles?

 

[skace]

I think FFM is joking. If he isn't joking, maybe he is on LSD? Either way, what he is spewing isn't logic.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: N8Magic

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Encryptic
Spoken like someone who ACTUALLY has experience. I can vouch for this. When I get high, I'm much more inclined to sit on my butt and listen to music or watch a good movie. In short, I'm RELAXING. I'm not getting drunk and obnoxious or thinking that I can drive my car when I obviously can't. Go ask a group of marijuana users what they do, and the majority of them are going to come back with the same answer.

That's YOU. That's not EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD.

You're right, that's me.

... and everyone else I know that smokes marijuana. (and there are no shortage of pot smokers in Canada)

Yup. You know all of them. You know everyone in the world who smokes pot. And, because you also know everyone in the world who will smoke pot in the future, your being relaxed when you smoke it actually proves something.

I really don't understand your hostility towards pot.. It's pretty unfounded. You have some sort of personal vendetta against it, you're not using logic..

I'm sure you've been drunk. Being drunk is far worse an experience than being stoned. You loose control of yourself when you're drunk, that does not happen when you smoke. Nobody ever gets high and then completely forgets what happened the day before....

It's more like.. "Dude.. That was cool."

I've never said this on AT, and I'm a little weary doing so. Why, I don't know. Most of what's left of my family has shunned my uncle, the retard. 13 years or so ago he was driving around while high. He was so fvcked up that he crossed lanes of traffic thinking he was driving under water and following a school of fish. He slammed into another car causing a 4 car accident head on while crossing one of the bridges downtown Portland (I'm not sure it was the Fremont. I don't get down there much), putting something like 8 in the hospital. He, himself, was thrown out of the driver's door window (wasn't thinking to wear a seatbelt) while his car spun and rolled. The car landed on his legs, braking both of them after he landed on his face, braking every bone in his face. He almost died. I remember like it was yesterday, going into the hospital to see him. His face was completely round from the swelling and loss of bone structure support. His eyes were 80% blood red, save for the iris and the pupil which had a sick red hint to them. I remember him looking down at me and not knowing who I was. It scared the sh|t out of me. This. This is what drives me so hard.

I won't ever smoke pot. I gave up cigarettes. I've basically given up drinking, for the most part. The last time I had something to drink was when I went out with Gregg. Before that, I can't remember the last time I had a drink.

Maybe it is an irrational fear of it and it's effects. Maybe I'm NOT thinking rationally. Sorry. I just get so wrapped up in what happened years ago in my head that things seem like the world is going to end if I don't convince people otherwise. Either way... nobody's going to learn the easy way anyway, I guess.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: PHiuR

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: N8Magic

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt


People under the effects of pot can LEAVE their homes and yards. Jesus! Where the hell is your logic? You're almost as bad at reasoning as the potheads. People who are high on pot do not reason well. The do STUPID THINGS. They run the risk of leaving their humble abode and killing others, potentially.

So either lobby for all of this crap to be illegal and deal with a safer society (ooo, that's gonna be hard), or lobby for all this crap to be legal and deal with a worse society.

I choose a better society.

Let me start by saying that your debating skills are pretty poor.

Where is YOUR logic? Using your example, alcohol should also be illegal because someone might drive after having 6 beers. Maybe they should only sell 1 beer at a time and then make you take a breathalyzer before you can purchase the next one?

Can you give examples of poor reasoning and stupid things that people do when they're under the influence? You make it sound like anyone who smokes a joint is automatically converted into a raving mass murderer lunatic while they're under the influence. Being someone who has smoked before, I can tell you that you couldn't be further from the truth. If anything, I sat on my ass and told jokes to my friends while listening to music. I had no desire to go out and drive around, nor did I want to go out and cause trouble.

Until you have first hand experience, you have no idea. It's nothing like getting drunk and rowdy like you seem to think.

Spoken like someone who ACTUALLY has experience. I can vouch for this. When I get high, I'm much more inclined to sit on my butt and listen to music or watch a good movie. In short, I'm RELAXING. I'm not getting drunk and obnoxious or thinking that I can drive my car when I obviously can't. Go ask a group of marijuana users what they do, and the majority of them are going to come back with the same answer.

That's YOU. That's not EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD.

Oh, and I'm sure you've asked the rest of the world, haven't you? Get your head out of your ass.

And you have!? Right...

Snappy comeback.

Try hanging out with people who actually smoke pot and get high with them before you make claims you can't back up. I have done so on numerous occasions and I'm speaking from my experience. Where did you get your facts from? Reefer Madness?

My uncle used to run one of the largest groups in the greater portland metro area for the legalization of pot. If you've been around long enough to remember "Town Hall" on TV, it's a good bet you saw his face on TV on multiple occasions.

so. are you saying your uncle is the "serial killer" uncle?

cuz we all know we have 3 different types...

the drunk uncle
the child-molester uncle
and the serial killer ----im not too sure if this is it...

hehehe anyone else remember the three or 4 types of uncles?

He's a looney uncle.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Eli
Do you "against legalization" people realize why we compare it to alcohol so much? The fact is, they aren't really even comparable, besides the fact that they're both drugs.

We compare it to alcohol because alcohol is far more powerful a drug, yet it is legal. That's what boggles the mind.

"powerful" is a word that is open to interpretation. Some people have an easier time controlling themselves while under the influence of alcohol than they do under the influence of marajuana. Some have it the other way around.

LOL! I see now that you know NOTHING about either alcohol or marijuana.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Eli
Do you "against legalization" people realize why we compare it to alcohol so much? The fact is, they aren't really even comparable, besides the fact that they're both drugs.

We compare it to alcohol because alcohol is far more powerful a drug, yet it is legal. That's what boggles the mind.

"powerful" is a word that is open to interpretation. Some people have an easier time controlling themselves while under the influence of alcohol than they do under the influence of marajuana. Some have it the other way around.

LOL! I see now that you know NOTHING about either alcohol or marijuana.

I know enough to be dangerous.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Yes. That's right. Because you don't hear about them in the news, they can't possibly exist. Those doctors are hardly intelligent. Lets not resort to belittling eachother and name calling.

Sure, they could, possibly exist. There are also crazy people that kill without any reason, so being crazy should be illegal too.

That would put me away for good.

By your own logic and argument, yes, you should be made illegal. That was a point I was considering bringing up.
"He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone... "

 

[milagro]

Originally posted by: yukichigai

Originally posted by: Ynog
http://www.earthgreen.org/hemp.htm

But in the early 1900?s, as the paper industry grew, it came to a crossroads, needing to choose between hemp and trees as its primary source of pulp. If the hemp plant was chosen, the logging industry would be threatened with financial ruin.
William Hearst, owner of a large timber company and many newspapers printed from tree-derived paper, started a campaign to stop hemp. He filled his newspapers with stories portraying hemp as a drug used by ?criminals and minorities.? Hearst used the Mexican slang word ?marijuana? instead if ?hemp? to help change its image from the all-American plant to an evil drug ?used by minorities. Hearst was joined by Du Pont and several other companies that saw a potential for profit in outlawing hemp. For Hearst and his enormous timber company, making hemp illegal was attractive because it guaranteed an enormous market for paper made from wood. For Du Pont, making hemp illegal would eliminate the stiffest competition for the company?s new synthetic fabrics, such as nylon. Because of their efforts, people became afraid of this ?dangerous drug,? and hemp became illegal. In the process, many potential benefits to our society were also lost.
The fact that some forms of the hemp plant also produce a psychoactive substance (THC) should not blind us to the tremendous benefits this plant can provide. Hemp can be grown without any THC, making it pharmacologically inert and completely undesirable to smoke.

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Let us not forget that Marijuana also grows damn near anywhere, whereas Tobacco is one of the most finicky plants ever. If Marijuana were to become legal big business would be unable to establish the near-monopoly with it that they have on Tobacco and to an extent Alcohol, and its presence would impact Alcohol and Tobacco sales. Obviously there is much lobbying to keep it illegal.

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Originally posted by: skace
I think FFM is joking. If he isn't joking, maybe he is on LSD? Either way, what he is spewing isn't logic.

He's not joking. This is his regular self, sad to say.

edit: and cobalt, please explain to me how your uncle had a head-on accident on the Fremont bridge simply by changing lanes. It's a double-decker freeway bridge which is one way on each level.
And marijuana is NOT a hallugenic. He must have been under the influence of some other drug. Plus, I don't know of anyone who supports marijuana legalization who also supports driving under the influence, much the same way those who support continued alcohol legalization do not also support DUI. Obviously, if it were made legal, marijuana would be regulated much the same way alcohol is regulated. And as you have seen from your uncle's case (if true), making marijuana illegal does not prevent people from abusing it -- far from it.