Why is Marijuana Illegal???????

[imported_Papi]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
actually, marijuana can be a hallucinagen, but you have to take an incredible amount of it. you basically have to take it orally, and by the point you get visuals and things, you're so stoned out of your mind you can barely open your eyes, let alone attempt to drive.

What kinda pot are you smoking?

Pot laced with hallucinogen's like PCP is the only type of pot that can cause you to see things and do tings you wont remember.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: bittersweet81
WHY??????????????????????????????????????????????

I don't get it.

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THAT'S why!

hah exactly

 

[MikeO]

Originally posted by: rbloedow
or are you naturally stupid?

I don't know about him, but you sure are.

 

[MikeO]

Originally posted by: Beau
It impairs your consciousness to an unsafe level, nuff said.

As does alcohol, to even more unsafe level, yet it is legal. Try to find another excuse.

 

[gigapet]

oh jesus not again.

Same stupid arguments different thread

only valid arguments here are arguments against operating cars or heavy machinery while high.

Other than that its been established that there isn't a good reason to have alchohol legal and pot illegal. Both should be legal or both should be illegal and driving on both should be illegal either way.

nobody died from pot plenty of people die each year from asprin. So if pot is illegal because of its dangerous side effects then asprin should also be illegal.

I could go on but it bores me to repeat the same thing over and over.

Someone should post a legitamate argument against legalizing pot next time this thread topic pops up.

god i thought this topic wouldnt pop up again but i guess it happens every 2 months after someone gets too stoned.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: rbloedow

Originally posted by: Beau
It impairs your consciousness to an unsafe level, nuff said.

Correctomundo

LOL! and several legal drugs don't??

What I like is how we shovel Ritalin down our kid's throats then turn around and tell them not to smoke pot, which arguably may have some beneficial uses in medicine (Glaucoma, for instance).

That's a good point.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: gigapet
oh jesus not again.

nobody died from pot plenty of people die each year from asprin. So if pot is illegal because of its dangerous side effects then asprin should also be illegal.

So youre saying that inhaling smoke into your lungs has no ill effects at all?

Also: I've never met anyone who has decayed into an idiot because of alcohol (obviously theres alcohol addiction, drinking/driving etc.) But my solid argument against pot is that it makes you retarded.

And just because Alcohol is legal and worse doesnt mean pot should be legal too

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: gigapet
oh jesus not again.

nobody died from pot plenty of people die each year from asprin. So if pot is illegal because of its dangerous side effects then asprin should also be illegal.

So youre saying that inhaling smoke into your lungs has no ill effects at all?

Also: I've never met anyone who has decayed into an idiot because of alcohol (obviously theres alcohol addiction, drinking/driving etc.) But my solid argument against pot is that it makes you retarded.

And just because Alcohol is legal and worse doesnt mean pot should be legal too

stop taunting me. I didnt say inhaling smoke wassnt harmful i just said nobody died from pot. (there are alternate ways to use pot too.......countless non-ingestable products can be made form hemp, you can eat pot or use a vaporizor to avoid the harmful effects of the smoke) I said either alchohol should be illegal or both alchohol and pot should be legal. They should make up there mind if they are going to ban things that are "bad" then they should do it with consistency.

Finally do your research pot doesnt kill brains cells it temporarily shuts some of them off and they become active again once you stop smoking pot. Alchohol on the other hand certailny kills brain cells and definitely talk to someone who has been drinking there whole life they are not all there.

I can argue that watching tv makes you stupid so tv should be illegal. Take that garbage argument elsewhere.

 

[spliffstar69]

Damn this is 5 pages already!! And I haven't even noted were I stand.

ok here it is.
POT IS ILLEGAL it should Remain ILLEGAL

There's now way I can let Big business spoil this young entrepreneur success with competition.

Ok time to log off now, got a pick up to make then its back to the Street Corner.

 

[Regs]

It is a know fact and study that pot leads to other dangerous drugs. Other than that, it should be legal. For some reason I feel like the one who would become depended on it because my life as of right now SUCKS!

 

[IamElectro]

I read somewhere once that upwards of 80% of the DEA budget is spent on pot stings and investigations. Seems to me if pot were legal a lot of govmt jobs would be eliminated.

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: Regs
It is a know fact and study that pot leads to other dangerous drugs. Other than that, it should be legal. For some reason I feel like the one who would become depended on it because my life as of right now SUCKS!

if coke was the easiest to acquire drug(as pot is) then coke would likely be the gateway drug. If you go back far enough caffeine is probably the true gateway drug.

change your perspective sometime it helps to see things more clearly.

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: IamElectro
I read somewhere once that upwards of 80% of the DEA budget is spent on pot stings and investigations. Seems to me if pot were legal a lot of govmt jobs would be eliminated.

its the number 1 cash crop in america(something like 30 billion a year in untaxed sales). Its a big money issue for many reasons, prisons, court system, lawyers, dea, fbi, local police etc etc etc............a true conspiracy right here

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Regs
It is a know fact and study that pot leads to other dangerous drugs. Other than that, it should be legal. For some reason I feel like the one who would become depended on it because my life as of right now SUCKS!

It is not a known fact.

It's not fact at all. The whole "gateway drug" is a bunch of horse hooey. It's up to the individual whether they go on to harder drugs or not. If pot isn't "enough" for them, they probably will.

 

[Regs]

I think Pot in American culture is a bad idea. Kids going to school who can't keep their heads up or eyes open while parents lose their jobs from poking their boss in the ass with excessive laughter. Amsterdam could get away with it but with American Standards and practices you can forget it. A man can get sued for winking at a woman at work now a days. It is just the paranoid McCarthyism of a Nation we live in.

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: Regs
I think Pot in American culture is a bad idea. Kids going to school who can't keep their heads up or eyes open while parents lose their jobs from poking their boss in the ass with excessive laughter. Amsterdam could get away with it but with American Standards and practices you can forget it. A man can get sued for winking at a woman at work now a days. It is just the paranoid McCarthyism of a Nation we live in.

Welll why can't you just let those that choose to participate suffer the consequences, even if it means they fail out of school or lose there job?

 

[EXman]

It's not fact at all. The whole "gateway drug" is a bunch of horse hooey. It's up to the individual whether they go on to harder drugs or not. If pot isn't "enough" for them, they probably will.

no but it is a widely held opinion and so is yours. I don't think it can become proven or not.

 

[Encryptic]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: gigapet
oh jesus not again.

nobody died from pot plenty of people die each year from asprin. So if pot is illegal because of its dangerous side effects then asprin should also be illegal.

So youre saying that inhaling smoke into your lungs has no ill effects at all?

Also: I've never met anyone who has decayed into an idiot because of alcohol (obviously theres alcohol addiction, drinking/driving etc.) But my solid argument against pot is that it makes you retarded.

And just because Alcohol is legal and worse doesnt mean pot should be legal too

Nobody said that inhaling smoke was necessarily good for you. Also, where is your evidence to support this "solid" claim that pot makes you retarded? If that was true, you would see a lot more people becoming "retarded" from smoking pot.

Just because you've never met anyone who decayed from drinking alcohol doesn't mean they aren't out there. Maybe you should go survey some homeless winos and see how many brain cells they have left after chugging Thunderbird everyday for 30 years.

 

[XZeroII]

Ok you stoners, listen for a minute...



1. JUST BECAUSE ALCOHOL IS LEAGAL, DOESN'T MEAN MARIJUANA SHOULD BE LEAGAL. You are using a freaking logical fallacy! Get over it. That arguement is useless and pointless. It's been discredited already. STOP SAYING IT.


2. Smoking Marijuana has NO (Zero, none) benefit whatsoever. It does not cure anything, it does not help anything. However, it does impare your senses and causes severe long term harm. To Summarize: Benefits = 0, Dangers = Many. (Note the word SMOKING)


3. Your arguement that Marijuana has never killed anyone is as pointless as saying that guns have never killed anyone. Of course it Marijuana never killed anyone. It's effects and how those effects effect you are what kills you. As I said it's like saying that guns have never killed anyone. Of course they haven't! Bullets kill people! (unless you throw the gun at a person). Same reasoning. Not persuading at all.


Ask any (reputable) medical doctor and they will tell you that it's dangerous. There is not a single good arguement for legalizing it. Not one. All arguements that are made seem to include some sort of logical fallacy, logical flaw, or just plain stupidity. If anyone has an ACTUAL arguement that doesn't sound like some stoner crybaby crying about how he wants to get stoned, I'll be glad to listen. Quit acting like 5 year olds. Just because you smoke pot and think you know everything doesn't make it so. Look at a reputable medical website for evidence on Marijuana or talk to an actual doctor to get the REAL facts about how it affects you and why it's illegal instead of your stoner friends.

As a final note, If you are that serious about wanting to get high then goto Canada or Europe where it's already legal.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: XZeroII
Ok you stoners, listen for a minute...

Have you been reading?

1. JUST BECAUSE ALCOHOL IS LEAGAL, DOESN'T MEAN MARIJUANA SHOULD BE LEAGAL. You are using a freaking logical fallacy! Get over it. That arguement is useless and pointless. It's been discredited already. STOP SAYING IT.

Where and when was this argument discredited? I have seen no one contest the fact that considering the two are similar products with similar uses, they should be similarly legislated. Kindly point me in the direction where this argument has been refuted other than some ninny saying "No, it's not the same, I'm right, you're wrong, CHECKMATE!"

2. Smoking Marijuana has NO (Zero, none) benefit whatsoever. It does not cure anything, it does not help anything. However, it does impare your senses and causes severe long term harm. To Summarize: Benefits = 0, Dangers = Many. (Note the word SMOKING)

Neither does smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol. That's exactly why the argument above holds water.

3. Your arguement that Marijuana has never killed anyone is as pointless as saying that guns have never killed anyone. Of course it Marijuana never killed anyone. It's effects and how those effects effect you are what kills you. As I said it's like saying that guns have never killed anyone. Of course they haven't! Bullets kill people! (unless you throw the gun at a person). Same reasoning. Not persuading at all.

It is a solid counter to the lie that marijuana is the deadly evil spectre. If marijuana is illegal, why do those far more lethal guns remain legal?

Ask any (reputable) medical doctor and they will tell you that it's dangerous. There is not a single good arguement for legalizing it. Not one. All arguements that are made seem to include some sort of logical fallacy, logical flaw, or just plain stupidity. If anyone has an ACTUAL arguement that doesn't sound like some stoner crybaby crying about how he wants to get stoned, I'll be glad to listen. Quit acting like 5 year olds. Just because you smoke pot and think you know everything doesn't make it so. Look at a reputable medical website for evidence on Marijuana or talk to an actual doctor to get the REAL facts about how it affects you and why it's illegal instead of your stoner friends.

As a final note, If you are that serious about wanting to get high then goto Canada or Europe where it's already legal.

I've never smoked pot in my life, Colombo. This isn't about the right to get stoned, this is about the government doing what it is SUPPOSED to do and not overstepping its bounds.
I think you need to realize that you are the one who has flawed logic. Ask any reputable medical doctor and they will tell you a LOT of things are dangerous and THESE things are ALL LEGAL. So why do we single out marijuana?

 

[dxkj]

Originally posted by: Eli
Do you "against legalization" people realize why we compare it to alcohol so much? The fact is, they aren't really even comparable, besides the fact that they're both drugs.

We compare it to alcohol because alcohol is far more powerful a drug, yet it is legal. That's what boggles the mind.

yeah thats always confused me a bit

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: XZeroII
Ok you stoners, listen for a minute...



1. JUST BECAUSE ALCOHOL IS LEAGAL, DOESN'T MEAN MARIJUANA SHOULD BE LEAGAL. You are using a freaking logical fallacy! Get over it. That arguement is useless and pointless. It's been discredited already. STOP SAYING IT.


2. Smoking Marijuana has NO (Zero, none) benefit whatsoever. It does not cure anything, it does not help anything. However, it does impare your senses and causes severe long term harm. To Summarize: Benefits = 0, Dangers = Many. (Note the word SMOKING)


3. Your arguement that Marijuana has never killed anyone is as pointless as saying that guns have never killed anyone. Of course it Marijuana never killed anyone. It's effects and how those effects effect you are what kills you. As I said it's like saying that guns have never killed anyone. Of course they haven't! Bullets kill people! (unless you throw the gun at a person). Same reasoning. Not persuading at all.


Ask any (reputable) medical doctor and they will tell you that it's dangerous. There is not a single good arguement for legalizing it. Not one. All arguements that are made seem to include some sort of logical fallacy, logical flaw, or just plain stupidity. If anyone has an ACTUAL arguement that doesn't sound like some stoner crybaby crying about how he wants to get stoned, I'll be glad to listen. Quit acting like 5 year olds. Just because you smoke pot and think you know everything doesn't make it so. Look at a reputable medical website for evidence on Marijuana or talk to an actual doctor to get the REAL facts about how it affects you and why it's illegal instead of your stoner friends.

As a final note, If you are that serious about wanting to get high then goto Canada or Europe where it's already legal.

1) not necessarily requesting it to be legal but at least be consistent and make alchohol illegal also.......

2) many things readlily available and legal impair your senses. Marijuana can be eaten or smoked through a vaporizer to avoid the effects of the smoke. plus hemp has countless uses that dont involve people getting high.

3) trying to say people kill each other when high on pot is just plain ignorant.


any reputable doctor will tell you smoking anything is dangerous. they would have a hard time saying that ingesting or using a vaporizer is very dangerous.

be consisten in your argument if you are going to say it has harmful long term effects and that it is dangerous you should also actively support making ciggarettes, alcohol and other readily available chemicals illegal also.

you sound like the clueless stoner here.

edit: typo

 

[Vic]

XZeroII,

1. You're stupid and should learn to spell and use basic grammar.

2. You're stupid and should learn to spell and use basic grammar.

3. You're stupid and should learn to spell and use basic grammar.

If, by advocating the legalization of marijuana, I have somehow become a "stoner," then what the fsck is wrong with you that you can't even spell "legal" and yet I, the "stoner" (though I'm not really), have no problems with spelling and grammar?
There's one argument for ya. Think about it.

 

[Encryptic]

Originally posted by: XZeroII
Ok you stoners, listen for a minute...



1. JUST BECAUSE ALCOHOL IS LEAGAL, DOESN'T MEAN MARIJUANA SHOULD BE LEAGAL. You are using a freaking logical fallacy! Get over it. That arguement is useless and pointless. It's been discredited already. STOP SAYING IT.


2. Smoking Marijuana has NO (Zero, none) benefit whatsoever. It does not cure anything, it does not help anything. However, it does impare your senses and causes severe long term harm. To Summarize: Benefits = 0, Dangers = Many. (Note the word SMOKING)


3. Your arguement that Marijuana has never killed anyone is as pointless as saying that guns have never killed anyone. Of course it Marijuana never killed anyone. It's effects and how those effects effect you are what kills you. As I said it's like saying that guns have never killed anyone. Of course they haven't! Bullets kill people! (unless you throw the gun at a person). Same reasoning. Not persuading at all.


Ask any (reputable) medical doctor and they will tell you that it's dangerous. There is not a single good arguement for legalizing it. Not one. All arguements that are made seem to include some sort of logical fallacy, logical flaw, or just plain stupidity. If anyone has an ACTUAL arguement that doesn't sound like some stoner crybaby crying about how he wants to get stoned, I'll be glad to listen. Quit acting like 5 year olds. Just because you smoke pot and think you know everything doesn't make it so. Look at a reputable medical website for evidence on Marijuana or talk to an actual doctor to get the REAL facts about how it affects you and why it's illegal instead of your stoner friends.

As a final note, If you are that serious about wanting to get high then goto Canada or Europe where it's already legal.

Ohhhhh...he's got all the answers, doesn't he?

1. Alcohol is arguably more dangerous than marijuana, yet it is legal. Also, Prohibition did NOTHING to control alcohol usage, much as prohibition of marijuana has done very little either. It was made illegal for POLITICAL reasons, not any sense of actual health concerns.

2. Where is your evidence to support this "it doesn't cure anything"? Does "Glaucoma" mean anything to you? Marijuana has been proven to help treat glaucoma.

Why was it briefly legalized for medical use in California? Apparently somebody thinks it's useful, not just a handful of "stoner crybabies". Doctors are not going to prescribe something they know to be dangerous, and I'm sure they know a lot more than you do about its effects.

3. Marijuana hasn't been conclusively shown to kill people, either short-term or long-term. Alcohol and the secondary effects associated with it have been proven over and over to be dangerous, on the other hand. I've gotten plenty of information about the effects of marijuana from reliable sources and have years of experience with it, which you do not have, presumably.

If I'm that serious about getting high, I plan to do it right here in America. It is NOT already legal in Canada or Europe. It's either decriminalized or the authorities look the other way (as in Amsterdam). Get YOUR facts straight before you post drivel like this and become a little more open-minded at the same time.

 

[gigapet]

XZeroII,

you were owned 4 posts in a row by cry baby stoners how does that make you feel.