Why is Marijuana Illegal???????

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skace

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This has been hashed time and time again. Some people will say they have very good reasons for it being illegal, some will say there are very good reasons for legalizing it, most will realize that there are reasons for and against. It is only a matter of time, so just quit it with the question marks and wait like the rest of us.
 

bittersweet81

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Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Beau
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Beau
It impairs your consciousness to an unsafe level, nuff said.
Correctomundo
LOL! and several legal drugs don't??
Lots do. Lots are illegal too. All that are legal are given for reasons like PERSCRIBED pain relief, etc., and have a dosage plan and warning lables.
Oh damn! And here I am without my prescription for alcohol



idiot.

Alcohol was illegal too at one point. Look how well that worked, before the US government caved in and revoked it.

Has anyone ever died from smoking pot? No.

Has anyone ever died from drinking? Hmmmmm.....

YEP! Impairing your consciousness is a horrible excuse... Usually used by people who don't know anything about it.
 

Beau

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Rogue
The problem with your entire story is that guys like you can't smoke a tree and do dumb $hit, so it was probably a good decision in the end.
Actually the real problem is that most of America has been effectively brainwashed into forgetting that people do dumb sht!t even without the assistance of drugs.

Or that the people who do it brainwash themselves into remembering to conveniently forget to point out that such occurances of people doing dumbshit things increases while under the influence.
 

royaldank

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DuPont and old fashioned politicians. Pretty soon we are going to be just about the only industrialized world that still considers pot illegal. Canada and most of Europe have decriminilized it for the most part.

It's something fun to do. It can impair judgement, but not nearly as much as alcohol. Why would someone do it? Because it can be fun. No one has ever overdosed from marijuana. Driving under the influence could be a problem, but not nearly as much as alcohol.

Alcohol is much more of a society problem than pot.
 

Encryptic

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Above all, people need to be better educated about drugs in general, instead of automatically buying into a bunch of media BS.
 

Beau

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Originally posted by: bittersweet81
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Beau
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Beau
It impairs your consciousness to an unsafe level, nuff said.
Correctomundo
LOL! and several legal drugs don't??
Lots do. Lots are illegal too. All that are legal are given for reasons like PERSCRIBED pain relief, etc., and have a dosage plan and warning lables.
Oh damn! And here I am without my prescription for alcohol



idiot.

Alcohol was illegal too at one point. Look how well that worked, before the US government caved in and revoked it.

Has anyone ever died from smoking pot? No.

Has anyone ever died from drinking? Hmmmmm.....

YEP! Impairing your consciousness is a horrible excuse... Usually used by people who don't know anything about it.

I know more about it than most here, first hand.
 

Rogue

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Rogue
The problem with your entire story is that guys like you can't smoke a tree and do dumb $hit, so it was probably a good decision in the end.
Actually the real problem is that most of America has been effectively brainwashed into forgetting that people do dumb sht!t even without the assistance of drugs.

You're absolutely right! But why provide already stupid people with just another reason to add to a pre-existing condition?
 

Eli

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Wow, the ignorance in this thread is astounding.

The real answer is, there is no good reason for it to be illegal. Protecting people from themselves isn't good enough an answer, and is very hypocritical considering cigarettes, alcohol, and a whole boatload of prescription and over the counter drugs are "OK", dispite having LD50s.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Eli
Wow, the ignorance in this thread is astounding.

The real answer is, there is no good reason for it to be illegal.

I'll stop you right there. If you're not willing to see the legal reasoning, I'm not willing to see your reasoning. Thank you.
 

yukichigai

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Originally posted by: Ynog
http://www.earthgreen.org/hemp.htm

But in the early 1900?s, as the paper industry grew, it came to a crossroads, needing to choose between hemp and trees as its primary source of pulp. If the hemp plant was chosen, the logging industry would be threatened with financial ruin.
William Hearst, owner of a large timber company and many newspapers printed from tree-derived paper, started a campaign to stop hemp. He filled his newspapers with stories portraying hemp as a drug used by ?criminals and minorities.? Hearst used the Mexican slang word ?marijuana? instead if ?hemp? to help change its image from the all-American plant to an evil drug ?used by minorities. Hearst was joined by Du Pont and several other companies that saw a potential for profit in outlawing hemp. For Hearst and his enormous timber company, making hemp illegal was attractive because it guaranteed an enormous market for paper made from wood. For Du Pont, making hemp illegal would eliminate the stiffest competition for the company?s new synthetic fabrics, such as nylon. Because of their efforts, people became afraid of this ?dangerous drug,? and hemp became illegal. In the process, many potential benefits to our society were also lost.
The fact that some forms of the hemp plant also produce a psychoactive substance (THC) should not blind us to the tremendous benefits this plant can provide. Hemp can be grown without any THC, making it pharmacologically inert and completely undesirable to smoke.

Edit: Forgot the link

Let us not forget that Marijuana also grows damn near anywhere, whereas Tobacco is one of the most finicky plants ever. If Marijuana were to become legal big business would be unable to establish the near-monopoly with it that they have on Tobacco and to an extent Alcohol, and its presence would impact Alcohol and Tobacco sales. Obviously there is much lobbying to keep it illegal.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Beau
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Rogue
The problem with your entire story is that guys like you can't smoke a tree and do dumb $hit, so it was probably a good decision in the end.
Actually the real problem is that most of America has been effectively brainwashed into forgetting that people do dumb sht!t even without the assistance of drugs.
Or that the people who do it brainwash themselves into remembering to conveniently forget to point out that such occurances of people doing dumbshit things increases while under the influence.
I don't "do it," nor have I ever. I dislike your busybody kind, and I hate the harm and expense you place upon society by try to force your excessive morals on others. It's a harmless drug... human catnip. Get over it. And what dumbsh!t (nice filter evasion there) thing do people who smoke pot do besides veg to the TV and eat munchies??
People are so goddamned fscking stupid anyway that I find it hard to believe that ANY drug could make them more stupid. So-called perfectly clean people propel themselves at 100 feet per second in 4,000 pound metal missiles while paying attention to nothing but their cell phone. If you think a minor drug like marijuana is major problem for society then I would say that your priorities are completely whack.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Eli
Wow, the ignorance in this thread is astounding.

The real answer is, there is no good reason for it to be illegal.

I'll stop you right there. If you're not willing to see the legal reasoning, I'm not willing to see your reasoning. Thank you.
That's just it. I would have no problem seeing the legal reasoning, if there were some that made half a gram of sense.

Bleh, we've been over this time and time again.. Cannabis being illegal makes absolutely no sense. Nyquil will fsck you up more, and it costs 4$/bottle at the grocery store.
 

Beau

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Originally posted by: Eli
Wow, the ignorance in this thread is astounding.

The real answer is, there is no good reason for it to be illegal. Protecting people from themselves isn't good enough an answer, and is very hypocritical considering cigarettes, alcohol, and a whole boatload of prescription and over the counter drugs are "OK", dispite having LD50s.

So by that logic, we may as well throw the rest of the laws out the window too, because, hey, why should the government try to protect us, even from ourselves?
 

MacBaine

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I'll bet all the pro-marijuana guys who say "hemp has so many beneficial uses to our society" would still be bitching just as much if the legalized hemp for commercial purposes, but kept the THC laced marijuana illegal.

I support legalizing hemp, not marijuana. If you just want to get high and take up space, don't try to cover it up by saying how wonderful hemp is.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Rogue
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Rogue
The problem with your entire story is that guys like you can't smoke a tree and do dumb $hit, so it was probably a good decision in the end.
Actually the real problem is that most of America has been effectively brainwashed into forgetting that people do dumb sht!t even without the assistance of drugs.
You're absolutely right! But why provide already stupid people with just another reason to add to a pre-existing condition?
As a police officer, Rogue, you have a vested financial interest in maintaining drug prohibition. Therefore, any argument you would make here is worthless.
 

waylman

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It should definately be legalized. It should be governed just like alcohol (ie. no smoking and driving). Alcohol is a much more damaging drug. The gov't would make an absolute killing off of it also.
 

Thraxen

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I'll stop you right there. If you're not willing to see the legal reasoning, I'm not willing to see your reasoning. Thank you.

Sorry, that post made no sense at all. Legal reasoning? There must (should be) be real reasons in place first for a law to exist... therefore that is the real point of discussion.
 

Beau

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Originally posted by: Vic
I don't "do it," nor have I ever. I dislike your busybody kind, and I hate the harm and expense you place upon society by try to force your excessive morals on others. It's a harmless drug... human catnip. Get over it. And what dumbsh!t (nice filter evasion there) thing do people who smoke pot do besides veg to the TV and eat munchies??

If you've never done it, then you have no grounds to argue "what dumbsh!t (nice filter evasion there) thing do people who smoke pot do besides veg to the TV and eat munchies??" Ever tried driving on weed. I have. It's not as easy as you'd think.

People are so goddamned fscking stupid anyway that I find it hard to believe that ANY drug could make them more stupid. So-called perfectly clean people propel themselves at 100 feet per second in 4,000 pound metal missiles while paying attention to nothing but their cell phone. If you think a minor drug like marijuana is major problem for society then I would say that your priorities are completely whack.

Driving while talking on cellphones is also illegal. Your argument is moot.
 

Encryptic

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Originally posted by: Beau
Originally posted by: bittersweet81
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Beau
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Beau
It impairs your consciousness to an unsafe level, nuff said.
Correctomundo
LOL! and several legal drugs don't??
Lots do. Lots are illegal too. All that are legal are given for reasons like PERSCRIBED pain relief, etc., and have a dosage plan and warning lables.
Oh damn! And here I am without my prescription for alcohol



idiot.

Alcohol was illegal too at one point. Look how well that worked, before the US government caved in and revoked it.

Has anyone ever died from smoking pot? No.

Has anyone ever died from drinking? Hmmmmm.....

YEP! Impairing your consciousness is a horrible excuse... Usually used by people who don't know anything about it.

I know more about it than most here, first hand.


Do I use drugs recreationally? Yes.

Do I use them as safely as possible? Yes.

Am I educated about the possible dangers of drugs? Yes


The fact is, if you use some drugs RESPONSIBLY, there wouldn't be such a problem with them. If only people figured this out instead of tarring all of them with the same brush, maybe we wouldn't be jamming our prisons with non-violent drug offenders.

NOTE: I am not saying all drugs are good and should be legalized. However, marijuana is reasonably harmless and can be enjoyed RESPONSIBLY, if you're not a complete idiot. I stay at home and don't drive when I'm stoned. I hold a good job, pay my taxes, contribute to society. But I smoke pot. OH MY GOD. Lock me up and throw away the key.


 

stormbv

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How in the hell does my smoking weed infringe upon the rights of others if I do it in my home and do not harm others by getting behind the wheel?
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: MacBaine
I'll bet all the pro-marijuana guys who say "hemp has so many beneficial uses to our society" would still be bitching just as much if the legalized hemp for commercial purposes, but kept the THC laced marijuana illegal.

I support legalizing hemp, not marijuana. If you just want to get high and take up space, don't try to cover it up by saying how wonderful hemp is.
What about those who don't care about hemp's beneficial uses and object to the 2 million people in jail and the $100 billion dollar plus per year expense (a VERY conservative estimate) in apprehending, prosecuting, and imprisoning drug users?
 

Beau

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Rogue
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Rogue
The problem with your entire story is that guys like you can't smoke a tree and do dumb $hit, so it was probably a good decision in the end.
Actually the real problem is that most of America has been effectively brainwashed into forgetting that people do dumb sht!t even without the assistance of drugs.
You're absolutely right! But why provide already stupid people with just another reason to add to a pre-existing condition?
As a police officer, Rogue, you have a vested financial interest in maintaining drug prohibition. Therefore, any argument you would make here is worthless.

Actually, his opinions are worth exponentially more than yours, considering he is submitted to the consequences of users on a daily basis.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: Beau
Originally posted by: Eli
Wow, the ignorance in this thread is astounding.

The real answer is, there is no good reason for it to be illegal. Protecting people from themselves isn't good enough an answer, and is very hypocritical considering cigarettes, alcohol, and a whole boatload of prescription and over the counter drugs are "OK", dispite having LD50s.

So by that logic, we may as well throw the rest of the laws out the window too, because, hey, why should the government try to protect us, even from ourselves?
Huh? No, that is not my logic at all.

It is not the government's job to protect us from harming ourselves.. Obviously, or alcohol and cigarettes would be illegal too. Cannabis is not illegal because it is dangerous. That is obsurd. It is illegal for political reasons.
 
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