Why Linux?

[Robor]

Why not just get a Linux compatible modem card?

 

[Seeruk]

Originally posted by: Chosonman

Originally posted by: Seeruk

Really.... truly ..... honestly I tried to walk away from this thread. But such FUD and fanboyism needs to be shown the error of it's ways

You work for Gates don't you?

One word tells me you are wrong about MS being the future. Vista

I think more than one person sees thing the way I do.Linux City

Nope - I am just a guy intelligent enough to realise that all OS's have their strengths and weaknesses. Not some idiot that has to identify himself through software :shocked:

 

[nweaver]

tab completion is great, but I truly dislike the way it's done in XP. Not that I don't use it, just that I dislike the way it works (finishing the line and putting quotes, causeing me to backspace twice to add switches.

 

[gsellis]

Originally posted by: Seeruk
Nope - I am just a guy intelligent enough to realise that all OS's have their strengths and weaknesses. Not some idiot that has to identify himself through software :shocked:

You mean you don't have a little shrine with either a penguin, window, or other inanimate object surrounded by burning incense and drapped with flowers in your house/cubicle? HERETIC!

 

[scottws]

Originally posted by: sourceninja
Just like the unix file system. Where will I find libs? well in /lib. Its simple and it makes sense. Where will I find my windows programs? Well in C:\ C:\program files C:\developer_name\ C:\publisher\developer\

That has less to do with Windows and its file systems than the program developers being dumb. Most programs default to install themselves in C:\Program Files. The ones that don't give you the option to change it to C:\Program Files.

...and I don't know any program that installs itself in C:

 

[Seeruk]

Originally posted by: gsellis

Originally posted by: Seeruk
Nope - I am just a guy intelligent enough to realise that all OS's have their strengths and weaknesses. Not some idiot that has to identify himself through software :shocked:

You mean you don't have a little shrine with either a penguin, window, or other inanimate object surrounded by burning incense and drapped with flowers in your house/cubicle? HERETIC!

Call me a crazy renegade but my desk is covered with photos of loved ones... ya know like REAL people in the REAL world Now I do have 'windows' in my house but without them I wouldnt be able to look outside and see the birds and the trees so please do accept my apologies for such blatant Windows fanboyism in my home but I didnt build the house!

<checks to to see it is Friday.... it is ... thus why I am wittering like a fool!'

 

[stash]

Originally posted by: nweaver
tab completion is great, but I truly dislike the way it's done in XP. Not that I don't use it, just that I dislike the way it works (finishing the line and putting quotes, causeing me to backspace twice to add switches.

Example?

 

[Nothinman]

Example?

If you're in the root of C: and you type 'cd Pro<tab>' it'll autocomplete 'cd "Program Files"'. From there it's not obvious that you can simply add a backslash outside of the quotes to make it start completing a subdirectory. I would assume he's talking about the same thing with switches, since cmd puts quotes around the command he probably believes that you need to include the switches in the quotes for them to actually work, I don't know if it's true or not but I would probably guess the same thing.

 

[stash]

since cmd puts quotes around the command he probably believes that you need to include the switches in the quotes for them to actually work, I don't know if it's true or not but I would probably guess the same thing.

It doesn't put quotes around commands, it put quotes around paths, since the path may contain a space. Switches after the quoted path work fine.

 

[nweaver]

Originally posted by: stash

since cmd puts quotes around the command he probably believes that you need to include the switches in the quotes for them to actually work, I don't know if it's true or not but I would probably guess the same thing.

It doesn't put quotes around commands, it put quotes around paths, since the path may contain a space. Switches after the quoted path work fine.

I didn't realize you could add the slash outside the quotes, I stand corrected. It just didn't look right, so I always backspaced the close quote, added a slash and kept typing.

so if you are in C:\ and type "cd Pro" and hit tab, you get "cd "Program Files"". I would change that to "cd "Program Files\Cis"" and then tab to turn that into "cd "Program Files\Cisco Systems"

You can just add the slash and tab again...didn't realize that (not as intuitive, but that could very well by my linux experience)

 

[stash]

You can just add the slash and tab again.

Yep, it will just keep moving the end quote out as you go.

 

[Nothinman]

It doesn't put quotes around commands, it put quotes around paths, since the path may contain a space.

If the command contains a space it'll put quotes around it too.

Yep, it will just keep moving the end quote out as you go.

After being told about it, yes it seems to do that. But it's not very intuitive and the bash method of escaping the space seems to make more sense.

 

[stash]

If the command contains a space it'll put quotes around it too

I'm not seeing that, do you have an example?

 

[Nothinman]

I'm not seeing that, do you have an example?

I copied charmap.exe to Copy of charmap.exe type Cop<tab> and it put "Copy of charmap.exe". This was with Win2K, I don't have an XP box to test.

 

[stash]

lol well, yeah. The command still works though.

 

[Zebo]

Why Linux?
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This is a joke right? I don't come in here too often so I'm not "getting it. " Otherwise Linux is farther from being "mainstream" than apples OS. Very complex install and driver install, configuration - no software of any consequence to me and most users. "Free" huh? Maybe your time is worthless but not mine. After 3 hours I spent to get monitor working at correct res in linux any MS OS pays for itself.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Why Linux?
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This is a joke right? I don't come in here too often so I'm not "getting it. " Otherwise Linux is farther from being "mainstream" than apples OS. Very complex install and driver install, configuration - no software of any consequence to me and most users.

RHES 4 just made me hit "next" a bunch of times. Granted, that's more complicated than Mac OS X, but it also gives me more options to customize the install too. :Q

You shouldn't have to install drivers, they should be included with the distros (at least the ones from the companies allowing redistribution, the companies that don't are twits).

Configuration is simple, in fact you probably don't have to really do any configuration after its setup.

I can't think of a piece of software that isn't available on Linux, or at least an open source (and typically better) work-a-like.

 

[Zebo]

Hows Civ 4 and about 10,000 other good games on Linux? I know none of my analytical instrumentation and the software which runs them can use linux. - they come with propritiary PC's depending on vendor and of course the programs are windows ones. And who knows what else?

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Hows Civ 4 and about 10,000 other good games on Linux?

No idea, ask a Linux user. I'm more of an admin, I deal with it at work. I don't want to deal with Linux at home, not when I have OpenBSD. :evil:

I know none of my analytical instrumentation and the software which runs them can use linux. - they come with propritiary PC's depending on vendor and of course the programs are windows ones.

Sounds like bad mojo to me. I don't want to get locked into anything like that.

And who knows what else?

Not me!

 

[Nothinman]

I know none of my analytical instrumentation and the software which runs them can use linux. - they come with propritiary PC's depending on vendor and of course the programs are windows ones.

Sounds like a great vendor lockin scheme, glad I don't have to put up with it.

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Hows Civ 4 and about 10,000 other good games on Linux?

Games are for kids, Linux is for work.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: Zebo
Hows Civ 4 and about 10,000 other good games on Linux?

Games are for kids, Linux is for work.

What are you talking about? I already stated my work stuff can't use linux. For example million dollar HP ICP/MS have a HP computer with windows 2000 and windows software, two CD's incidently, to run the machine. That's just two pieces of about 30 other instruments which function in similar fashion.. for work. I'm sure there are hundreds of other examples like accounting, engineering, pharmancy, medicine/dentistry software that profesionals use everyday which are only winOS. I think it's just the opposite.. you kids play with linux while the rest of the world works with winOS and thier apps.

 

[Nothinman]

Games are for kids, Linux is for work.

I wouldn't go quite that far, although most games in the past few years have given me more of a 'blah' impression than "ah that's cool!".

 

[stash]

Interesting. I use my Windows boxes for work everyday. Could it be that (gasp) you can use both Linux and Windows to do work?

 

[Nothinman]

What are you talking about? I already stated my work stuff can't use linux. For example million dollar HP ICP/MS's for example have a HP computer with windows 2000 and windows software, two CD's incidently, to run the machine. That's just two pieces of about 30 other instruments which function in similar fashion.. for work. I'm sure there are hundreds of other examples like accounting, engineering, pharmancy, medicine software profesionals use everyday which are only winOS.

And I'm sure people in other industries can name dozens of pieces of software that only run on some version of commercial unix or some custom RT OS or even a RT version of Linux.