Why Mormons are not Christian:

[sandorski]

They are as Christian as Catholics, Jehovahs Witnesses, Protestants, Seventh Day Adventists, Pentecostals, etc.

All your reasons are actually reasons given by someone who were merely justifying themselves. The "Basics" were first and foremost the "Basics" according to whom declared them as such. Others accepted them and over time that first persons declaration of "Basics" has just been accepted without question. So now someone else comes along and doesn't adhere to that first Persons ideas, tough.

In the end it means nothing. The Basics, the Theology, the Sacraments, the Mantras, the Dogma, the Saints(or others of great importance), for everyone loses touch with the original(pre-that one who declared his/her opinion as something concrete) Ideals and slowly but surely build a house of cards from the minds of men with opinions that have been exalted as divine.

Believe whatever you want to believe, but never accept that you know the Truth, nor concern yourself whether they or them know it. Seeking the Truth is the only worthy state of being.

 

[randalee]

Originally posted by: Kanalua
Sweet...just found out that where we're moving to in Hawaii, the Ward starts at 11:30am...sweet!

...I just knew when I read your name you were going to be an islander of some sort. Hey, brother, what's your tribe? I lived out in 29 Palms, CA for 6 months or so in a big ward full of islanders... Best time of my whole mission.

 

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by: waggy
Yeah another mormon bashing thread!

this is almost identical to the one from last month

why is gay bashing banned , but bashing religions is ok?

 

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by: SirFshAlot

Originally posted by: AdamMT1618
But Christians beleive in the Trinity and Mormons do not, so to a Mormon, there can not be another type of Christian.

Are you serious?
That's like saying "Mormons don't have a catholic Pope, so they can't believe in Jesus".
The "trinity" is just a term adopted by some faiths, while other faiths don't use that term.
From what I understand, the mormons believe in God the Father, His son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost. 3 beings. What is a trinity, if not 3? Semantics.

mormons believe this

We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: FoBoT

Originally posted by: waggy
Yeah another mormon bashing thread!

this is almost identical to the one from last month

why is gay bashing banned , but bashing religions is ok?

Does it have anything to do with gays being an openly persecuted minority, whereas religious folks are a privately persecuted majority?

 

[troglodytis]

2) You do not believe the things I do, and I am okay with that. But as far as I am concerned, it is NOT a fictional story. Please respect that.

no.

would you respect praying to mr. potato head? come dine with me, but first we must pray to mr. potato head. you start.

 

[quakefiend420]

Originally posted by: Amused
Who cares?

 

[Insomniak]

Haha! Religion!

 

[asm0deus]

so often it seems to boil down to someone thinking they are closer than someone else, when its all the comparison and judging that puts them farther away. instead of taking it all so seriously we should really just be laughing, at ourselves and our differences. the greatest thing about jesus to me was that his relationship with a higher power was validated to himself and to those around him. so regardless of the instruction manual you follow to validate your relationship with a higher power, the point is that you want to validate it. A great many people don't think its worth validating, and they're really the ones who should be arguing about it. the ones who already believe and who are on their way don't need to question the ones travelling with them but instead the ones who are not.

 

[darkamulets]

Isn't religion just like politics? I mean really you have zealots on both sides why isn't this post in P&N?

 

[troglodytis]

so let me get this straight.....

you say other people that do not agree with your beliefs should not tell you what your beliefs are or are not...

Why would I read an article about Christianity?
#1 It's nothing I haven't heard before
#2 If I'm going to discuss a bunch of crazy rules built around a fictional story, I'll find a Dungeon & Dragons board or something. (OMG, you are not a paladin! Your lack of healing abilities and your use of a blunt weapon mean you're just a warrior!)



1) If you would please read the article, you might find a bit of enlightenment as to why this is different from the other "I have heard this before" type posts.

2) You do not believe the things I do, and I am okay with that. But as far as I am concerned, it is NOT a fictional story. Please respect that.

but it is ok for you to tell people what thier beliefs are or are not if you do not believe in them.

hy·poc·ri·sy
Audio pronunciation of "hypocrisy" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (h-pkr-s)
n. pl. hy·poc·ri·sies

1. The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.

 

[MechJinx]

Yet another thread telling me what I do and do not believe in. Heh, I've said it before and I'll say it again. If you want to learn about something, you goto the people that know the most about it. If you needed to learn a programming language, would you go to an English major? If you needed to learn farming, would you goto a mechanic? If you needed to learn finances, would you goto an art major? Why, then, if you want to learn about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints do you go first to the detractors of the religion. The OP said that he has friends that are LDS, yet instead of using his friends, The Book of Mormon, The Doctrine & Covenants, or The Pearl of Great Price to prove his point, he used literature written by people who are not members or have left the church and have written a biased version of it. If I wanted to learn more about Catholicism, would I talk with an Atheist or an ex-communicated member? Heavens no, I would speak to a member in good standing and work from a common ground. *sigh* I just love being told that I don't believe in Jesus Christ. Or, even better from this thread, that I believe in a different Jesus Christ. Makes me wonder what I'm gonna believe in next.....

 

[troglodytis]

mr. potato head!!!!

 

[aniepras]

Originally posted by: ariafrost

Originally posted by: StormRider
Hmmm, I just read more of your article and a lot of the Mormon doctrine does seem weird.

Well I won't pass judgment and call it "weird", but I will agree with you that it is a bit odd and something I have not read before. I understand Mormons (LDS) are very secretive about practices and beliefs and that the Book of Mormon does not actually contain many of their beliefs - apparently a book called Doctines and something-or-another does.

nothing about? That is like going to the KKK to find out about black people. All these mormon bashing threads make me want to join them more than anything from what I have read threw the years proves to me more than not the mormon bashers are the blind followers of some money hungry religion.

Any churches that waste their time to bash another religion are obviously scared and are acting just like someone working for the devil spreading lies they have been told.

 

[aplefka]

Mormons != Christians. They don't believe in the trinity and they also believe Jesus was a created being.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: aplefka
Mormons != Christians. They don't believe in the trinity and they also believe Jesus was a created being.

Thank you for posting and not reading a damn thing written by actual Mormons in this thread.

 

[aniepras]

Originally posted by: aplefka
Mormons != Christians. They don't believe in the trinity and they also believe Jesus was a created being.

Did your preacher tell you that when he was rapping you in the ass?

 

[aplefka]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: aplefka
Mormons != Christians. They don't believe in the trinity and they also believe Jesus was a created being.

Thank you for posting and not reading a damn thing written by actual Mormons in this thread.

Give me a break. I have read so much literature on Mormons in the past 4-5 years that I don't need to read what they say anymore. What's sad is when the Mormons I am friends with know less about their religion than I do.

One thing I find funny is that whenever you discuss something with a Mormon, even if you use a direct quote of Joseph Smith not out of context, if they don't know about it they think you're making it up.

As for this, I am done though. I never post in religious threads on ATOT and don't even know why I bothered to post in this one. Maybe because I just talked to some Mormons last Wednesday when they came by my friend's house or something, I dunno.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I don't give a shat what mormons, morons or christians believe. I just wish they'd STFU and stop telling everyone else what they think you should believe.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I don't give a shat what mormons, morons or christians believe. I just wish they'd STFU and stop telling everyone else what they think you should believe.

:thumbsup:

 

[DougK62]

You could have made your entire post much shorter by using just one simple sentence: "I'm better than you".

 

[DougK62]

Originally posted by: BigJ
You can argue that many different sects are not truly "Christian." Including Catholicism.

And the Protestant denominations.

 

[aniepras]

Originally posted by: aplefka

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: aplefka
Mormons != Christians. They don't believe in the trinity and they also believe Jesus was a created being.

Thank you for posting and not reading a damn thing written by actual Mormons in this thread.

Give me a break. I have read so much literature on Mormons in the past 4-5 years that I don't need to read what they say anymore. What's sad is when the Mormons I am friends with know less about their religion than I do.

One thing I find funny is that whenever you discuss something with a Mormon, even if you use a direct quote of Joseph Smith not out of context, if they don't know about it they think you're making it up.

As for this, I am done though. I never post in religious threads on ATOT and don't even know why I bothered to post in this one. Maybe because I just talked to some Mormons last Wednesday when they came by my friend's house or something, I dunno.

Maybe because you are a liar possessed by the devil to do so?

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: aplefka

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: aplefka
Mormons != Christians. They don't believe in the trinity and they also believe Jesus was a created being.

Thank you for posting and not reading a damn thing written by actual Mormons in this thread.

Give me a break. I have read so much literature on Mormons in the past 4-5 years that I don't need to read what they say anymore. What's sad is when the Mormons I am friends with know less about their religion than I do.

One thing I find funny is that whenever you discuss something with a Mormon, even if you use a direct quote of Joseph Smith not out of context, if they don't know about it they think you're making it up.

As for this, I am done though. I never post in religious threads on ATOT and don't even know why I bothered to post in this one. Maybe because I just talked to some Mormons last Wednesday when they came by my friend's house or something, I dunno.

Cliffnotes: My interpretation of Mormonism is correct, considering there can only be one true interpretation, mine. I don't need to hear from others as I am correct because I have friends that don't know two sh!ts about the religion they claim to practice.

 

[aniepras]

Who needs organized religion anyway? I?ve been to a lot of different churches and they all suck and just want money. At least when I went to the Mormon Church I didn?t have to put money in the offering plate the tenth time they pass it around. The way I see it all religions stem from Catholicism except for the Mormons because they came up with the idea to have a modern day prophet. Pretty clever I think.