Best news I've heard all week. This traitor needs to do the country a favor and kill himself so we can save some cash. We're in a deficit, you know. Come on, do the right thing and kill yourself, asshole.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/02/01/wikileaks.manning/index.html?hpt=T2
Excuse me, it's the court instances that has determined he stay in solitary. He did the crime, now he does the time.
Wow, ignorance is ripe in this thread...all these internet tough guys that know NOTHING.
Please link to his trial and guilty verdict.
Otherwise, admit you are ignorant of the facts (that he has not even been TRIED, let alone CONVICTED).
Is learning the facts about something before just spouting off that hard nowadays for todays kids?
What most liberals seem to argue is that it shouldn't be or that it was justified.
Are you reserving judgment about Jared Lee Loughner too?
Most people don't disagree that Manning revealed US secrets. That's a crime. What most liberals seem to argue is that it shouldn't be or that it was justified.
Are you reserving judgment about Jared Lee Loughner too?
Most people don't disagree that Manning revealed US secrets. That's a crime. What most liberals seem to argue is that it shouldn't be or that it was justified.
Are you reserving judgment about Jared Lee Loughner too?
Most people don't disagree that Manning revealed US secrets. That's a crime. What most liberals seem to argue is that it shouldn't be or that it was justified.
For whatever it's worth, I am not clear that he in fact leaked US secrets, but if he did, I don't agree there could conceivably have been a lawful justification for it. A moral justification, perhaps, but that's a topic for another day and should not insulate him from the consequences provided for by law.
For whatever it's worth, I am not clear that he in fact leaked US secrets, but if he did, I don't agree there could conceivably have been a lawful justification for it. A moral justification, perhaps, but that's a topic for another day and should not insulate him from the consequences provided for by law.
A more sensible post than what the shitheel conservatives here have to say.
What you say is true. He will pay a price for what he did. In my mind thats a very brave thing to do.
Link to court/tribunal findings?
I'll repeat this for you too:
Link to proof?
Link to his guilty verdict?
He may well be guilty, but this is the US, and innocent until proven guilty is still the way of the US court system, both civilian and military. If he is guilty, a judge or jury will assign punishment, not you or "most people"
"most people" don't know squat. "most people" aren't a judge or jury. "most people" are idiots, given that a lot of people still believe things that are provable false. So "most people" doesn't mean anything, but thanks for trying. Just another 100% fact-free posting by you.
And what does Jared have to do with anything? Answer: nothing.
Again, nobody is saying that Manning doesn't deserve a trial, dimwit.
Court Martial has not happened yet. Here is a copy of where he admitted doing it:
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/06/wikileaks-chat/
Well nobody except for the OP of this thread you mean?
I like your angle here Don, you make not judgment about the situation or assume he's guilty.
Certainly, you make a lot of these jokers look like raving lunatics. Sir, I commend you!
Jared Loughner is relevant to show that you probably only reserve judgment for people you sympathize with. Should everyone stop discussing Loughner because he hasn't had a trial yet? Of course not. Nobody's saying he doesn't deserve a trial but at the same time it's in the bag that he's guilty. Same goes for your butt-buddy.
Again, nobody is saying that Manning doesn't deserve a trial, dimwit.
ZOMG those haven't been authenticated in a court of law so we have to pretend like they don't exist. /sarcasm
Did I mention him? no
Have I posted about him? no
So you actually have no idea what I think do you? Of course not
ZOMG the government can't connect Manning to Assange
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41241414/ns/us_news-wikileaks_in_security/?ocid=twitter
and the hacker mentioned in the wired article named Lamo as well as the editors at Wired are withholding the chat logs so we don't know what they say.
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/12/29/wired_response_1/index.html
What if they become better more progressive and modern???
Can you justify the hijack of their political system then??????????????
Iraq, you did that for democracy, right(plan b) WMD (plan a)
had nothing to do with controlling oil resources!
THE REAL FEAR IS THEY CONTROL WHAT YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR....... OIL!!!!!!! SO YOUR GOV. PUT A GUN THEIR HEAD FOR THEIR MATES AT MOBIL/EXXON/SHELL/BP INTERESTS!
AND THEY ALSO SELL BOMBS AND GUNS, LAND MINES WHAT EVER TO FUCK THOSE COUNTRIES UP SO THEY CANT CALL THE SHOTS WITH THE OIL- LOOK AT OPEC FFS!
What right has the USA or anyone else to impose your beliefs on them, really all you want is their oil and passage thru the suez!
I would of thought you clean up your backyard before messing someone elseS, USA! christian country!!! my arse!
Its game over people are getting the truth finally.
When will you realize the truth? Your government doesn't give a fuck about you!
dumb as my bum.
So you think the portions published on wired are a fabrication? Get a grip. Do you think George Bush is a great guy? You must because he has not been convicted of high crimes by anyone.
What are you saying, leaking information about misdeeds that needed to be leaked makes up for what he shouldn't have leaked?
Don't kid yourself. He's not a whistleblower like Samuel Provance. He's a vandal, who in the process of committing a massive act of vandalism meant to embarass the government that he felt mistreated him by demoting him for punching someone in the face, leaked some misdeeds that we needed to know about so we could stop.