Will Powercolour accept this RMA?

[nemesismk2]

Originally posted by: boredtodeath
I bought a 9800SE from Powercolour, to replace my current 9200SE. I was hoping it would softmod to a 9800 pro, but it did not, so I called customer support and claimed stability issues, which is true, several of my games seemed to be flacky since i swapped them out. Anyway, say they check it and see it boots up and runs 3dmark 2001 but do not play any of the games that i play (that are slightly flacky). Will they just send the card i sent in back? I really want one that soft mods and that is more stable. what are the chances they will accept the RMA and not email me back saying im a wanker that does not know how to install it?

Just buy a REAL 9800 Pro and stop being so bloody tight, hopefully Powercolor will find out what you did and refuse your RMA! :disgust:

 

[LTC8K6]

I don't see anything wrong with doing what you want to your own hardware.

Neither do I.

Just don't try to RMA it when you break it while doing what you want with it.

 

[LTC8K6]

oconnect:

For me I didn't care if I ruined my 8500LE because it was still in warranty, I could always send it back if I couldn't find bios that worked.

Too late, we have another one.......

I do it all the time....

 

[Schadenfroh]

this guy is obviously not the sharpest knife

look at his handy work

:Q:roll:

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Given that I just emailed the Powercolor/TUL CSRs a link to this thread with your contact info, I'd say no.

- M4H

LOL

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Look all you crusaders in the thread be quiet for a second.

Yeah i do not believe that he should RMA it as Softmodding can cause dmg much more likely that OCing.

However why are all of you reporting him, flaming him, acting as moderators and cops. Come on grow up!! Let him and powercolor deal with the consequences.

-Kevin

Kevin, it is the grown up thing to do. Not doing anything and letting him get away with it is the teenager thing to do. We have been through this many times with various people in various threads. RMAing a card you softmodded or o/c'd and damaged is bad.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Look all you crusaders in the thread be quiet for a second.

Yeah i do not believe that he should RMA it as Softmodding can cause dmg much more likely that OCing.

However why are all of you reporting him, flaming him, acting as moderators and cops. Come on grow up!! Let him and powercolor deal with the consequences.

-Kevin

Kevin, it is the grown up thing to do. Not doing anything and letting him get away with it is the teenager thing to do. We have been through this many times with various people in various threads. RMAing a card you softmodded or o/c'd and damaged is bad.

i totally agree with you . . .

. . . . eXcept for the "flaming" and "personal attacks" - which is ALSO bad (and also a reason for "banning" on ATF)

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Look all you crusaders in the thread be quiet for a second.

Yeah i do not believe that he should RMA it as Softmodding can cause dmg much more likely that OCing.

However why are all of you reporting him, flaming him, acting as moderators and cops. Come on grow up!! Let him and powercolor deal with the consequences.

-Kevin

Kevin, it is the grown up thing to do. Not doing anything and letting him get away with it is the teenager thing to do. We have been through this many times with various people in various threads. RMAing a card you softmodded or o/c'd and damaged is bad.

i totally agree with you . . .

. . . . eXcept for the "flaming" and "personal attacks" - which is ALSO bad (and also a reason for "banning" on ATF)

Yes of course. Minus the personal attacks. If I were Nvidia or ATI corporations, I would permanently lock cards at the advertised clock speeds and laser cut any pipelines not being utilized to avoid countless abusive RMA's. I have to admit, it's like they are asking for it by not doing this.
This goes for AMD and Intel as well.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Look all you crusaders in the thread be quiet for a second.

Yeah i do not believe that he should RMA it as Softmodding can cause dmg much more likely that OCing.

However why are all of you reporting him, flaming him, acting as moderators and cops. Come on grow up!! Let him and powercolor deal with the consequences.

-Kevin

Kevin, it is the grown up thing to do. Not doing anything and letting him get away with it is the teenager thing to do. We have been through this many times with various people in various threads. RMAing a card you softmodded or o/c'd and damaged is bad.

LOL some more.

OCing then RMAing is bad, mmmkay?

 

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: TStep
There seems to be quite a rash of these threads lately.:roll: Video forum or RMA forum?

I guess everyone is bored about discussing which paper launch is faster.

 

[Avalon]

Softmodding does not always = flashing.
More than likely, he's running the Omega drivers to run the card unlocked.
If he's doing that, and assuming he bought a Powercolor C3 (the smart buy of the bunch), then he hasn't overclocked the card either.

I just wanted to get that out of the way, since everyone is jumping to conclusions of flashing and OC'ing.

Regardless...I don't know if I buy the story about the card being flaky. The card probably works fine stock. Run it pipe-locked, or eBay it for an ~15% loss, which would be the equivalent of a restocking fee in most places anyway. Just don't say in your eBay auction that the card softmods if it cannot softmod without artifacts or issues. This way, someone who is actually looking to buy the card to run it like it is will get a good deal on it, and you'll get most of your money back plus get to build yourself some positive feedback which can be very helpful for forum/further trading. Not too big a deal.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Look all you crusaders in the thread be quiet for a second.

Yeah i do not believe that he should RMA it as Softmodding can cause dmg much more likely that OCing.

However why are all of you reporting him, flaming him, acting as moderators and cops. Come on grow up!! Let him and powercolor deal with the consequences.

-Kevin

Kevin, it is the grown up thing to do. Not doing anything and letting him get away with it is the teenager thing to do. We have been through this many times with various people in various threads. RMAing a card you softmodded or o/c'd and damaged is bad.

LOL some more.

OCing then RMAing is bad, mmmkay?

Not sure what you mean by that, but yes. If you damage your card.

 

[oconnect]

Originally posted by: LTC8K6
oconnect:

For me I didn't care if I ruined my 8500LE because it was still in warranty, I could always send it back if I couldn't find bios that worked.

Too late, we have another one.......

I do it all the time....

'

response to LTC8K6 from another post but is valid for his response on this thread
"Haha it wasn't my fault that ATI was trying to rip there customers off by selling us the same GPUs practically. Where?s the integrity in that? As noted, I successfully modded my bios & did not return the card. But if all the difference to a video card is different bios settings I will change those bios settings in a heartbeat. I don't believe scamming is proper word more like hacking. =)"

 

[LTC8K6]

Ah, only a potential crook, oconnect. Okay.

 

[GreenMonkey]

Yes of course. Minus the personal attacks. If I were Nvidia or ATI corporations, I would permanently lock cards at the advertised clock speeds and laser cut any pipelines not being utilized to avoid countless abusive RMA's. I have to admit, it's like they are asking for it by not doing this.

There was no security at this store...none! Why didn't they put precautions in place? I admit, it's like they are asking to have stuff stolen but not doing this.



They should make an ethics class mandatory in public schools. At least then if you choose to do something questionably ethical, you don't make faulty justifications for why it is OK.

 

[Elvis2]

this guy is obviously not the sharpest knife

look at his handy work


hehehe....you gotta be s****** me.

 

[Corporate Thug]

$10 for a 520W PC power and cooling :Q

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: effee
I'd think they'd RMA it if you cook up a believable story

you and the OP need to be butt raped.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: GreenMonkey

Yes of course. Minus the personal attacks. If I were Nvidia or ATI corporations, I would permanently lock cards at the advertised clock speeds and laser cut any pipelines not being utilized to avoid countless abusive RMA's. I have to admit, it's like they are asking for it by not doing this.

There was no security at this store...none! Why didn't they put precautions in place? I admit, it's like they are asking to have stuff stolen but not doing this.



They should make an ethics class mandatory in public schools. At least then if you choose to do something questionably ethical, you don't make faulty justifications for why it is OK.

i'd make reading comprehension mandatory.
:roll:

Your reply to this particular poster is WAY off. Try looking at "context".
:thumbsdown:

anyway, to reply to keysplayr2003 . . . . i guess ati/intel/amd/nvidia etc. decide NOT to do this for a reason.

Actually, companies like to "have it both ways"; they like that then enthusiast can O/C their product and it provides a form of post-testing and a "buzz" thru the enthusiast community. Many companys - Abit, Asus, etc. make a living by making o/c'ing-friendly MBs - if intel or amd did NOT like it, they could easily shut it down. AMD is also more "o/c'ing friendly" than intel as it caters to the enthusiasts.

ALSO, O/C'ing is allowed for - in certain cases even by intel - the 3% "turbo boost" was for diagnostic purposes.

ATI and nVidia both KNOW their product will be o/c'd . . . . some of their partners advertise O/Cs and a "reasonable range" of O/C'ing whill still being warrantied.

Here's one for your colorblind people (i.e. see only in B&W):

How about the person who gets a cpu/videocard and proceeds to test its limits - safetly and incrementally. It is only O/C'd for a benchmark and then put back to "stock". A year later, the MB fails and takes the videocard with it - is he morally able to RMA?

I wasted a lot of time with this post and realize very few (here) will get the point . . . . there ARE certain situations that are treated differently than others and it is not your conscience, nor do you likely know the WHOLE story - just what was written, perhaps quickly in a post and it is also not your position to judge . . . . although it is your privilege to object WITHOUT personally attacking the person you disaggree with.

 

[Jayczar]

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: effee
I'd think they'd RMA it if you cook up a believable story

you and the OP need to be butt raped.

go for it dude

 

[oconnect]

LTC8K6 do you work for ATI or perhaps the RIAA? Sure seems like it lol.

 

[oconnect]

*sorry posted twice.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: Jayczar

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: effee
I'd think they'd RMA it if you cook up a believable story

you and the OP need to be butt raped.

go for it dude

by skywalker66

 

[boredtodeath]

If any of you were reading this thread about my original clause.....


They accepted the RMA and the one they sent me arrived today. IT SOFTMODS

so, after shipping it back, twice, i saved about $40 from the costs of a real 9800 pro. If it is stealing, then why do they make a card that can be changed into the other and price it $70 more?

BTW, my GF is loving the 9200SE i gave her from the old rig. Although, i should be worried that she has gathered several new boyfriends from the single player of the sims 2 single player. Ho hoh hohho

 

[Childs]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Look all you crusaders in the thread be quiet for a second.

Yeah i do not believe that he should RMA it as Softmodding can cause dmg much more likely that OCing.

However why are all of you reporting him, flaming him, acting as moderators and cops. Come on grow up!! Let him and powercolor deal with the consequences.

-Kevin

I dont get this either. Bunch of tattle tales on these boards. Even criminals have no respect for rats.

EDIT: Well, of course a criminal wouldnt, but no one likes a snitch. Fraud is always factored into pricing. If there was no fraud, prices would not go down. Thats what companies say to justify price increases.