Windows Vista

Rottie

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Do you think Vista is a 64 bit OS or not? If it is, are you going to upgrade from XP?
I bought XP Pro last month and I know Vista will come out next year it is bit waste of my money to upgrade it.
 

sigs3gv

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Vista will be probably both 64bit and 32bit. I will be "upgrading" from Windows XP to Linux when Vista comes out
 

slugg

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Other than buying a new computer off the shelf with it preinstalled, I don't see many people upgrading to Vista. Why? What incentive is there to running Vista? Seems like a bloated OS... god knows how many problems it'll have once it hits mass usage.

When XP came out, it took me more than a year to "upgrade" from 2000 to xp because I wasn't happy that it seemed like Microsoft released an unfinished product. The same will probably happen this time around with me.
 

loic2003

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XP SP2 is stable, and isn't bad at all. No real reason for people to upgrade IMO. I know none of my family need anything more from their machines.
 

jazzboy

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Originally posted by: velis
Current rumors are that Vista will be 64bit only.

I bloody well hope so, otherwise it'll be even more work for driver programmers - which will again mean less hardware support for 64-bit version
 

MrChad

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Originally posted by: velis
Current rumors are that Vista will be 64bit only.

Everything I've read has stated that Vista will be released in both 32-bit and 64-bit versions.
 

rodneykm

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Originally posted by: sigs3gv
Vista will be probably both 64bit and 32bit. I will be "upgrading" from Windows XP to Linux when Vista comes out


Sounds like a downgrade to me. I prefer my stuff to be able to run all the games and programs I like. Linux is overrated. No offense intended.
 

The Linuxator

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Originally posted by: rodneykm
Originally posted by: sigs3gv
Vista will be probably both 64bit and 32bit. I will be "upgrading" from Windows XP to Linux when Vista comes out


Sounds like a downgrade to me. I prefer my stuff to be able to run all the games and programs I like. Linux is overrated. No offense intended.


From my experience here are the areas where Linux apps are lacking :

- Media editing (I am obliged to turn to my windows box for mixing my trance tracks, and videos)

- Gaming as everyone knows, though there alot of games that do work for Linux as well as windows, like doom in all variations, Wolfenstein, quake stuff like that, currently I am playing wolfenstein.

- You dont get super polished apps, alot are hobbyist app like, but the major apps are tuned very well and work as intended.

- High learning curve, you got to be ready to bust it out old books style (well that's me) but the difference with Learning Linux and anything else, is that you really have a pleasure out of learning how to work with stuff like the BASH shell, learn about the Filesystem...etc it's not like any OS you will encounter(non-open source at least), because when you learn Linux as it should be learned, there is no Limit to what you can change in it, you can open it up and rehaul it all over the modifications and the tweaking are unlimited and it's all fun.

If you are not concerned by anything that is mentioned above, then you don't know what you really missing ;D
 

Link19

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I hope Vista gets delayed. Honestly who needs it? I am already happy with Windows XP SP2. Window XP SP2 is already a good OS for today's generation of hardware and software for the next couple of years at least. So why do we want or need Vista as early as 2006? All it will offer at first is more bloat.

 

bsobel

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Originally posted by: Link19
I hope Vista gets delayed. Honestly who needs it? I am already happy with Windows XP SP2. Window XP SP2 is already a good OS for today's generation of hardware and software for the next couple of years at least. So why do we want or need Vista as early as 2006? All it will offer ast first is more bloat.

Your just full of misinformation this week, aren't you. Do you think your going to be forced to upgrade or something? If your happy with XP SP2, good for you, stay on it.
 

Link19

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Your just full of misinformation this week, aren't you. Do you think your going to be forced to upgrade or something? If your happy with XP SP2, good for you, stay on it.

Microsoft will probably force you to upgrade to it if you want to use the latest hardware and software. That just isn't right.
 

bsobel

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Originally posted by: Link19
Your just full of misinformation this week, aren't you. Do you think your going to be forced to upgrade or something? If your happy with XP SP2, good for you, stay on it.

Microsoft will probably force you to upgrade to it if you want to use the latest hardware and software. That just isn't right.

Have an example of where they have done this? Or just more FUD? And how is it not 'right'. Your system works today, with the applications you have today. How are you entitiled to run 'new' things forever on your current OS? This doesnt work in any other industry (did you get upset that the new model of your car has side air-bags and you can't install them on your model?, or the new version of your cellphone is MP3 compatible and your old one is not?)

Bill

 

Link19

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Originally posted by: bsobel
Originally posted by: Link19
Your just full of misinformation this week, aren't you. Do you think your going to be forced to upgrade or something? If your happy with XP SP2, good for you, stay on it.

Microsoft will probably force you to upgrade to it if you want to use the latest hardware and software. That just isn't right.

Have an example of where they have done this? Or just more FUD? And how is it not 'right'. Your system works today, with the applications you have today. How are you entitiled to run 'new' things forever on your current OS? This doesnt work in any other industry (did you get upset that the new model of your car has side air-bags and you can't install them on your model?, or the new version of your cellphone is MP3 compatible and your old one is not?)

Bill



I never said forever. How about for three years you can run everything you want on Windows XP before you will have to upgrade.

The way MS is, it is likely they will try and force everyone to upgrade only a couple of months after Vista is released. Even though that clearly didn't happen after Windows XP was first released, it is only because Microsoft wuldn't have been able to get away with it without significant customer backlash. I fear it weill be easier for them to try and force people to upgrade so quickly this time.

Will MS force error reporting and such down your throat while making it very difficult to disable? That is how it seemed with Windows XP. Even when I disabled Error Reporting in Windows XP, I would still receive the error reporting popup dialog. I had to disable every aspect of Error Reporting in order for it to shut up completely. Its like as if MS wanted to force these kind of things on you.

I fear Vista will be even worse in that aspect, with Microsoft dictating how you use your PC and you having less control over what happens.

Fortunately with Windows XP, tweaks have been discovered to take control of your PC completely, and not submit to Microsoft's way of wanting to control your PC. Until similar tweaks are found for Vista that will make me feel rest assured that MS is not looking over my shoulder, I won't even tough Vista.
 

The Linuxator

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One thing for sure is that Vista will have "call home" capabilities that will make the Win XP's ones look like a joke.
And if someone asks me for proof, well just wait and see how things will be like when Vista comes out.
 

bsobel

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I never said forever. How about for three years you can run everything you want on Windows XP before you will have to upgrade.

The way MS is, it is likely they will try and force everyone to upgrade only a couple of months after Vista is released. Even though that clearly didn't happen after Windows XP was first released, it is only because Microsoft wuldn't have been able to get away with it without significant customer backlash. I fear it weill be easier for them to try and force people to upgrade so quickly this time.

It's hard to have a discussion when your simply going to post lies. You have zero evidence of this (none, nadan, zip). By your argument, why wasn't this done with W2K?

The reason your not taken seriously is you constantly lie, try to stick to facts (same for The Linuxator)
 

Link19

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Originally posted by: bsobel
I never said forever. How about for three years you can run everything you want on Windows XP before you will have to upgrade.

The way MS is, it is likely they will try and force everyone to upgrade only a couple of months after Vista is released. Even though that clearly didn't happen after Windows XP was first released, it is only because Microsoft wuldn't have been able to get away with it without significant customer backlash. I fear it weill be easier for them to try and force people to upgrade so quickly this time.

It's hard to have a discussion when your simply going to post lies. You have zero evidence of this (none, nadan, zip). By your argument, why wasn't this done with W2K?

The reason your not taken seriously is you constantly lie, try to stick to facts (same for The Linuxator)



They are not exactly lies. You are only saying they are because you are biased towards error reporting and label anyone who doens't use it as selfish.

People don't want to use Error Reporting for their own reasons. It is not your place to tell people that they are stupid for not wanting to use Error reporting!!
 

bsobel

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Originally posted by: Link19
Originally posted by: bsobel
I never said forever. How about for three years you can run everything you want on Windows XP before you will have to upgrade.

The way MS is, it is likely they will try and force everyone to upgrade only a couple of months after Vista is released. Even though that clearly didn't happen after Windows XP was first released, it is only because Microsoft wuldn't have been able to get away with it without significant customer backlash. I fear it weill be easier for them to try and force people to upgrade so quickly this time.

It's hard to have a discussion when your simply going to post lies. You have zero evidence of this (none, nadan, zip). By your argument, why wasn't this done with W2K?

The reason your not taken seriously is you constantly lie, try to stick to facts (same for The Linuxator)



They are not exactly lies. You are only saying they are because you are biased towards error reporting and label anyone who doens't use it as selfish.

People don't want to use Error Reporting for their own reasons. It is not your place to tell people that they are stupid for not wanting to use Error reporting!!

Your confusing yourself. This thread is about your Vista lies, not your Error Reporting lies. I suggest you might want to review the thread, I never metioned error reporting in this thread, you did. My comments where on your general lies (like MS forcing you to upgrade 3 months after Vista is launched).

Try pulling your head out, I think you need more oxygen.
 
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