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Denly

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I settled a cheap set of Skull Candy ink'd, comfy, battery life is ridiculous I charge it once a week, call is crystal clear and connection is rock solid. The only thing is no multi point otherwise a perfect WFH headset.
 

sdifox

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Sep 30, 2005
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I settled a cheap set of Skull Candy ink'd, comfy, battery life is ridiculous I charge it once a week, call is crystal clear and connection is rock solid. The only thing is no multi point otherwise a perfect WFH headset.


Ew Skull Candy.
 

Exterous

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Don't worry Denly - sdifox hates everything. Skull Candy, air fryers, non-day old rice being used for fried rice. If you'd like to ask what he doesn't hate you can find him on the front porch yelling at clouds
 

sdifox

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Sep 30, 2005
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Don't worry Denly - sdifox hates everything. Skull Candy, air fryers, non-day old rice being used for fried rice. If you'd like to ask what he doesn't hate you can find him on the front porch yelling at clouds


I am an equal opportunity hater.

Here is an anecdote. I won a 20dollar giftcode from McD monopoly. Tried to redeem on SK website and of course the one that is on sale is out of stock. So I pick a regular price one and I would have to pay them 12+tx to get it cuz shipping.

Next day I picked up the same set from Walmart for ten plus tax. It would have cost me more to redeem the prize...
 
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thestrangebrew1

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I just recently purchased some Air Pod Pros and I'm still getting used to them. They sound ok and they're generally comfortable, but I'm using the medium sized plugs and they kept falling out after a while. I switched to the small one and have been using them for about an hour today and they feel a little bit better. I'm still getting used to the noise cancellation however. IDK if I like how it functions. It makes me feel like I need to pop my ears the instant they turn on and that part just feels weird.
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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I've used the amazon echo buds, and just recently got the Sony wf-1000xm3. Honestly I don't feel like the Sony's are that much better than the echo buds despite the extra cost. Both are good, but some of the features of the amazon ones are better frankly.
I have those Sony's. For a while I thought they were defective because I couldn't perceive the noise cancellation feature. A proper fit of the alternative buds fixed that, you should try various ones. Here's a huge thread for them:

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/off...se-cancelling-true-wireless-earphones.911305/

I have never bought a music listening device that didn't support wired headphones so I've been sticking with that. My Etymotic wired earbuds are very high fidelity, quite comfortable and more reliable than the Sony's. Also, and just as important, they are super isolating due to how they seal out sounds from the environment.

I really should play around with my Sony WF-1000XM3's some more, though. I have a lot of other projects going.
 
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MrSquished

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I have those Sony's. For a while I thought they were defective because I couldn't perceive the noise cancellation feature. A proper fit of the alternative buds fixed that, you should try various ones. Here's a huge thread for them:

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/off...se-cancelling-true-wireless-earphones.911305/

I have never bought a music listening device that didn't support wired headphones so I've been sticking with that. My Etymotic wired earbuds are very high fidelity, quite comfortable and more reliable than the Sony's. Also, and just as important, they are super isolating due to how they seal out sounds from the environment.

I really should play around with my Sony WF-1000XM3's some more, though. I have a lot of other projects going.
I was close to getting those Sony's but I really didn't like how so much of the product sits outside the ear. And some reviewers mention that. I went with the Senn MTW2 instead and am very happy.

How is Etymotic these days? I know when I was first getting into IEMs a long time ago they were known as having the most analytical sound signature. My friend had the original Etymotic Er-4p I think the model was called.

I preferred a slightly warmer more fun sound so I started out with Westones and Ultimate Ears stuff and then tried some Dunus. Ultimately my high end IEM right now are the Meze Rai Pentas which have a dynamic driver to go with 4 BA's. This is after I tried the Campfire Andromeda IEM that were all the rage on head-fi and consisting of multiple BA drivers. But I just don't like the sound of totally BA driven IEM anymore after discovering ones that incorporate a well done dynamic driver these days.
 

Muse

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Jul 11, 2001
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I was close to getting those Sony's but I really didn't like how so much of the product sits outside the ear. And some reviewers mention that. I went with the Senn MTW2 instead and am very happy.

How is Etymotic these days? I know when I was first getting into IEMs a long time ago they were known as having the most analytical sound signature. My friend had the original Etymotic Er-4p I think the model was called.

I preferred a slightly warmer more fun sound so I started out with Westones and Ultimate Ears stuff and then tried some Dunus. Ultimately my high end IEM right now are the Meze Rai Pentas which have a dynamic driver to go with 4 BA's. This is after I tried the Campfire Andromeda IEM that were all the rage on head-fi and consisting of multiple BA drivers. But I just don't like the sound of totally BA driven IEM anymore after discovering ones that incorporate a well done dynamic driver these days.
The original Etymotic Research earbuds are the ER4S, I'm almost positive. The ER4P have close to the same sound but are quite a bit more efficient, i.e. don't need as loud a signal to produce the same volume. I bought ER4S's back around 1999, when I was doing programming that required major concentration in a cubicle office environment with a lot of distracting noise/voices, etc. Really helped and they let me listen to music while I worked, of course, noone was disturbed by my doing that.

Those original ER4S lasted me 10+ years, I think, without a problem, not one cord discontinuity, which was amazing to me because I'd had so many headphones go bad on me, they all did before the Ety's.

Later I got ER4P's, and now have a couple of other Etys, cheaper, but they sound great. My hearing isn't capable of discerning subtle differences in headphones, etc. anymore, I think. Too many loud shows, for sure, and I suppose just aging. Anyway, I'm not going deaf like my folks pretty much did!

Here's a huge thread that should interest you:

Subject: If you still love Etymotic ER4, this is the thread for you...

 
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MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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The original Etymotic Research earbuds are the ER4S, I'm almost positive. The ER4P have close to the same sound but are quite a bit more efficient, i.e. don't need as loud a signal to produce the same volume. I bought ER4S's back around 1999, when I was doing programming that required major concentration in a cubicle office environment with a lot of distracting noise/voices, etc. Really helped and they let me listen to music while I worked, of course, noone was disturbed by my doing that.

Those original ER4S lasted me 10+ years, I think, without a problem, not one cord discontinuity, which was amazing to me because I'd had so many headphones go bad on me, they all did before the Ety's.

Later I got ER4P's, and now have a couple of other Etys, cheaper, but they sound great. My hearing isn't capable of discerning subtle differences in headphones, etc. anymore, I think. Too many loud shows, for sure, and I suppose just aging. Anyway, I'm not going deaf like my folks pretty much did!

Here's a huge thread that should interest you:

Subject: If you still love Etymotic ER4, this is the thread for you...


Yeah IEM's that isolate are amazing for so many situations. If you use them in a busy city, just look both ways before you cross the street.

I've seen that thread and it has tempted me to try them but I pretty much know I like a bit more oomph in the low end and overall sound. Not basshead level, but a touch warmer sound.

I'm not sure what frequencies your hearing might be losing but maybe try a dynamic driver IEM if you want a little change of pace. The Sony's are just a single DD. The Ety uses only Balanced Armature drivers which generally don't have as much of a 'powerful' sound or oomph to them as dymamic drivers but do contain more detail and can be said to lean a bit trebly. Then you have the hybrids that have a DD and some BA's in them. I've found those to be the best if done right. One DD dedicated to the low end frequencies and some BA's tuned for the mids and highs done just right sounds golden. Then of course you have the marketing race that is all about stuffing as many different drivers into those little housings as possible so they can use that to sell them.

I don't have the ears like some of these guys on head-fi claim to have. I think half of them are full of shit to be honest, and some just have the ears of sound engineers. But I can tell the difference between some things. My full sized headphones are much easier to tell differences with.
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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Yeah IEM's that isolate are amazing for so many situations. If you use them in a busy city, just look both ways before you cross the street.

I've seen that thread and it has tempted me to try them but I pretty much know I like a bit more oomph in the low end and overall sound. Not basshead level, but a touch warmer sound.

I'm not sure what frequencies your hearing might be losing but maybe try a dynamic driver IEM if you want a little change of pace. The Sony's are just a single DD. The Ety uses only Balanced Armature drivers which generally don't have as much of a 'powerful' sound or oomph to them as dymamic drivers but do contain more detail and can be said to lean a bit trebly. Then you have the hybrids that have a DD and some BA's in them. I've found those to be the best if done right. One DD dedicated to the low end frequencies and some BA's tuned for the mids and highs done just right sounds golden. Then of course you have the marketing race that is all about stuffing as many different drivers into those little housings as possible so they can use that to sell them.

I don't have the ears like some of these guys on head-fi claim to have. I think half of them are full of shit to be honest, and some just have the ears of sound engineers. But I can tell the difference between some things. My full sized headphones are much easier to tell differences with.
You're using a lot of acronyms that I totally whiff on. Even IEM's. But DD, BA's and probably some from your other posts in this thread elude me. I'm not versed in headphones. I've had a variety over the years, some highly touted ones, but have never felt the need to analyze them for particularities. I sense fidelity, and if a set doesn't seem to have it, I shun them. The Ety's have the rep for fidelity, and I've just gone with them, partly because they are pretty comfortable and have that for me all important isolation factor. In the gym, isolation rules, in public transit just as much or more, on planes, for real, they rule.

I have a set of Sony over the ear headphones that are very highly regarded in the music/engineering community but I just don't use them because they hurt my ears. Standard stuff like they had in the 60's, but either I'm more sensitive now or they are less comfortable than the headphones I was crazy about in the 60's. Music with those on was just a revelation. Even today, though, headphones of any kind are just better than speakers. I hear more detail.

I've always preferred a flat sound. I mean, I want to hear everything and figure my best bet to be able to do that is to use speakers or headphones with a flat response... i.e. they give me everything that the artist/engineer combo came up with. So, I don't trust the whole personal preference aspect of speakers/headphones. Now, different people have different hearing, i.e. one person may not hear certain frequencies that another will, or to the extent they do. For that, equalizers can help, of course, and I use one with Winamp.

Myself, my hearing tests have shown I'm about 50% attenuated from 3000 hz and above, so when I have access to an EQ, I boost that range.

I also have tinnitus that never quits. I don't notice it most of the time because, well, it's constant. It's kind of in the way, as it were, but like looking through a picket fence at what's beyond, you don't think about the fence, you think about what you're trying to see. I have a tough time in noisy environments understanding conversation a lot of times. At least I can say I don't have evidence that my hearing has worsened in the last ~20 years.
 
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