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Sparty

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Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
How can I go about using a printer wirelessly?

Like I have 3 computers (2 notebooks, 1 desktop) that I want to be able to share an HP OfficeJet.

What would I need to do? Printer is USB
The SMC 2804WBRP-G Here looks like it fits the bill but is kind of expensive, check pricewatch.
 

Sparty

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Originally posted by: RandyH
Is there a wireless access point that has a jack to accept a serial modem? Would this work as my dialup connection?

This has been a most informative discussion!

Randy
The SMC 7004AWBR Here looks like it should fit the bill, check pricewatch or Ebay or Amazon.
 

albrandwood

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Originally posted by: ChaplainDave


Thanks for the quick reply. My computer will be in the family room...my wife's will be upstairs in her craft room or in an open landing at the top of the stairs (where her sewing machine is). My daughter's...after she graduates from college in May...will be in her bedroom...just down the hall from where my wife's will be.
In that case USB wireless for the desktops that arent need the cable/DSL modem ... the one next to the modem/router might as well use wired
Is there really a lot of advantage over 802.11g from the 802.11b??? My only concern is interference from things like the microwave...or cordless phones. 802.11b I think is slightly older technology, correct? Isn't the 802.11g newer? My guess is that they have perfected the 802.11b a bit more than the "g" model, correct? Again...does this mean I would need a router between my cable modem and my computer with PCI cards in my wife's machine and daughter's machine???
The primary difference is the speed ... 802.11b is 11Mbps, 802.11g is 54Mbps. (yes, some "b" can manage 22Mbps, and some "g" can manage 108Mbps.) If your primary (only use) for a home network is to share the cable/DSL modem, then "b" is better cos its virtually free (some "b" routers are $10 AR this weekend, as are some USB devices) ... If you are planning to transmit video around your network, then you really want "g" or wired...[/quote]
also some "g" routers will operate only at "b" speed if there are any "b" devices on the network.
Thanks again for the help... I figured I would see what kind of deals were out there for BF. By the way, someone posted a deal they found for routers on Amazon.com. They are both 802.11b routers (Netgear WGR 614 and MR 814 for $79.99 with $20 rebate and $49.94 with $20 rebate respectively...good deal???)
not compared to the belkins this weekend

@shley
 

JmsAndrsn

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I believe this is a pretty hot deal and will pick this router up in the store tomorrow. I guess you could do it online as well although you might not be able to use a coupon.

$79.99 + tax......Microsoft 54G Wireless Base Station
-$20...................OfficeMax Rebate (item# 25)
-$20...................Microsoft Rebate
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$39.99 + tax

To make things even hotter, if you have a Staples or Office Depot coupon you could probably get OM to accept it. For instance, if you go over to fatwallet.com then you can probably find a coupon for $15 off $75 purchase.
 

tc17

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Originally posted by: JmsAndrsn
I believe this is a pretty hot deal and will pick this router up in the store tomorrow. I guess you could do it online as well although you might not be able to use a coupon.

$79.99 + tax......Microsoft 54G Wireless Base Station
-$20...................OfficeMax Rebate (item# 25)
-$20...................Microsoft Rebate
-----------------------
$39.99 + tax

To make things even hotter, if you have a Staples or Office Depot coupon you could probably get OM to accept it. For instance, if you go over to fatwallet.com then you can probably find a coupon for $15 off $75 purchase.
Maybe I am missing something, but both the officemax and microsoft rebates require the barcode from the box.


 

albrandwood

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Originally posted by: tc17
Originally posted by: JmsAndrsn
I believe this is a pretty hot deal and will pick this router up in the store tomorrow. I guess you could do it online as well although you might not be able to use a coupon.

$79.99 + tax......Microsoft 54G Wireless Base Station
-$20...................OfficeMax Rebate (item# 25)
-$20...................Microsoft Rebate
-----------------------
$39.99 + tax

To make things even hotter, if you have a Staples or Office Depot coupon you could probably get OM to accept it. For instance, if you go over to fatwallet.com then you can probably find a coupon for $15 off $75 purchase.
Maybe I am missing something, but both the officemax and microsoft rebates require the barcode from the box.

OfficeMax rebates almost always accept copies, especially if you put "original UPC sent to Manufacturer for Rebate Purposes" on the photocopy ... so far, I've never had one rejected (and if it does, email them (OMRebates@officemax.com I think) and they'll normally authorize it anyway ;-)

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mboy

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Excellent work on the by the original poster, but BOY half these posts should be in the netowrking section. Anyway, best deal $$ wise is at Staples. It really is the Belkin F5D6231-4 Wireless Cable/DSL Gateway Router
Item No. 482096 and not the model pictured on the flyer or posted in this thread. I just ordered it online and with a $5off coupon (can be found at chubby money holder site), it came to $5.94 + tax delivered. Not the best wifi 802.11 router, but I just need it as an AP basically to test wifi security in my house using Vlan, 3DES VPN, etc so for $5, it is a steal fo rme.
Can be ordred online as I type. And only thing required by the Staples rebate is the pack slip, not even the UPC fro the box. I certainly am not going to lose sleep worrying about receiving my rebate directly from Staples themselves.
 

RandyH

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out of stock at Staples, still available at Circuit City, higher price, more rebates.

Randy
 

creedamd

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I host a lan party everymonth, for about 20 cpus, I have the party divided into 2 groups, one in a room in my house and another in my garage, right now we are connected with cat5, but I would like to go to wireless G, I have cable internet in my house, would it be wise to get a router for one of my computers that stay in the house and get a pci adapter for one outside and use switches to put everyone else on? We share files, play games.

Thanks!
 

albrandwood

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Originally posted by: Bfavre444
Cat 5? Is that the same as RJ-45? When did RJ-45 start being called cat5?

RJ45 is the name of the actual JACK type ... (RJ11 is used in telephones) ...

Cat5 means that the cable its approved for 100Mbps upto 100feet. (its the grade of the cable involved) ... Can't remember what cat6 is ... possibly 1gbs upto 100feet ...

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albrandwood

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Originally posted by: creedamd
I host a lan party everymonth, for about 20 cpus, I have the party divided into 2 groups, one in a room in my house and another in my garage, right now we are connected with cat5, but I would like to go to wireless G, I have cable internet in my house, would it be wise to get a router for one of my computers that stay in the house and get a pci adapter for one outside and use switches to put everyone else on? We share files, play games.

Thanks!

I'm assuming that you have wired cat5 between the garage and the house ... in that case, I'd advise a router in the house, and an Accesspoint in the garage ... connected with cat5 between them ... (done neatly) ...

I wouldn't bother with wireless unless you are using laptops, and continue to use cat5 for the desktops...

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albrandwood

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Originally posted by: konichiwa
What exactly is the difference between a router and an "access point"?

Its covered above, but again, breifly ...

An AccessPoint is the HUB of the wireless network ... usually has a single wired socket for connecting to a wired network.
A Router is a box that usually contains: an AccessPoint, a 4 port hub/switch, as well as software such as DHCP and DNS servers as well as basic firewalling and routing software.

A Router is designed for use with broadband. Most will not work with a shared modem setup due to DHCP issues. There are a couple of routers do support external modems as "backup" to the broadband connections, but they are few and far between.

For more on this subject please read the thread.

@shley
 

konichiwa

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Originally posted by: albrandwood
Originally posted by: konichiwa
What exactly is the difference between a router and an "access point"?

Its covered above, but again, breifly ...

An AccessPoint is the HUB of the wireless network ... usually has a single wired socket for connecting to a wired network.
A Router is a box that usually contains: an AccessPoint, a 4 port hub/switch, as well as software such as DHCP and DNS servers as well as basic firewalling and routing software.

A Router is designed for use with broadband. Most will not work with a shared modem setup due to DHCP issues. There are a couple of routers do support external modems as "backup" to the broadband connections, but they are few and far between.

For more on this subject please read the thread.

@shley

Thanks for the quick reply and I read through most of the thread after reading your post above. I think I know what I need...and I think it's an Access Point.

I currently have a wired network that shares a cable connection over a 10/100 Netgear (wired) router. I just bought a laptop with a 802.11g wireless card in it and I want to be able to use this wireless connectivity. I don't, however, want to reorganize my entire network as it is pretty much worthless for my PC to be wireless.

So I guess what I want to do is just add a wireless device to a wired network. An access point is what I need then, right?
 

hkssupra69

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Just dropped by compusa last night, they had a Toshiba router for 29.99 no rebates, I checked online and said it was only for pickup. Plugged it in last night and its working great, has 4port and supports wifi. I think they had other routers for 29.99 w/o rebate as well but i was in a hurry so I couldn't really check.
 

mboy

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Cat 5 is 100 meters not feet.
Anyway, this thread is waaay off topic now. How about visiting the networking forum and post this stuff where it belongs and can be addressed by the very knowledgeable people in there
 

ufhockey09

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ok, i'm really gonna beat this router/AP thing to death here...

regardless of your network, you will always need a router, correct? and then APs HAVE to be wired to the router?

so APs are really useful then when you have a very large home or for an office building or something, right? so you could just have one router and then 4 or 5 or however many access points so that everyone would get a strong signal. of course, in that scenario, i imagine you wouldnt want like 100 ppl in a "productive" office environment to be sharing the same connection (slow speeds). anyways, just trying to more clearly define using examples of actual networks

one other question...im thinking to get the b router because its fast enough for broadband. now i was just worrying about signal strength...any1 have a b router? how far away from it are you? i would be downstairs from mine...should that be a problem?
 

Coraanu

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Originally posted by: ufhockey09
ok, i'm really gonna beat this router/AP thing to death here...

regardless of your network, you will always need a router, correct? and then APs HAVE to be wired to the router?

so APs are really useful then when you have a very large home or for an office building or something, right? so you could just have one router and then 4 or 5 or however many access points so that everyone would get a strong signal. of course, in that scenario, i imagine you wouldnt want like 100 ppl in a "productive" office environment to be sharing the same connection (slow speeds). anyways, just trying to more clearly define using examples of actual networks

one other question...im thinking to get the b router because its fast enough for broadband. now i was just worrying about signal strength...any1 have a b router? how far away from it are you? i would be downstairs from mine...should that be a problem?

Routers are generally only needed to filter and share cable or DSL connections. Most routers double as an AP and wired switch. If you have a wired router, you can plug a wireless AP into it. You can have as many AP's as you want, although I believe there is a limit. You will also need to alternate the wireless channels between 1, 6, and 11 I believe. Please double-check this to be sure.

Hope that helps.

 

albrandwood

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Originally posted by: ufhockey09
ok, i'm really gonna beat this router/AP thing to death here...
regardless of your network, you will always need a router, correct? and then APs HAVE to be wired to the router?
Yes ... but ... when you are using windows dialup network sharing (ie with a dialup account), the PC is the router ... you can use a wireless router in this senario, but you will have to disable the router's DHCP server, _and_ hardcode the TCP/IP settings in all the wireless clients, as the firewall software on most routers will block the DHCP requests from the wireless clients.
so APs are really useful then when you have a very large home or for an office building or something, right? so you could just have one router and then 4 or 5 or however many access points so that everyone would get a strong signal. of course, in that scenario, i imagine you wouldnt want like 100 ppl in a "productive" office environment to be sharing the same connection (slow speeds). anyways, just trying to more clearly define using examples of actual networks.
This is very true ... and yes, this is what AccessPoints were designed for ... but also AccessPoints preceeded the routers ...
one other question...im thinking to get the b router because its fast enough for broadband. now i was just worrying about signal strength...any1 have a b router? how far away from it are you? i would be downstairs from mine...should that be a problem?
we have b ... and live in a brownstone building ... the router is in the front parlor floor room ... we don't have great signal in the back yard, but good enough around the 1st three (relevent) floors ...
My sister-in-law has a large timber frame house, and have no issues using b upto 75+ foot of building ... (and in fact had issues with the neighbours, since neither network had been changed from the default configurations ... and both were linksys.

If you are purely planning on sharing broadband, with a couple of machines, and occasionally transfering files / mp3 accross the network, you should have no problems with b ... if you transfer 1gb of data, then allow time for the transfers

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ufhockey09

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tried going to the link for the MA311 at outpost but didn't work. and i checked the site too...couldn't find it
 
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