Wisconsin ripe for voter fraud...

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Carazariah

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Jay for your perusal:

New York - Florida Double Registered Voters:
http://www.sptimes.com/2004/08...t__Many_are_vote.shtml (Florida Source) - Citing NY Daily News
http://www.ny1.com/ny/TopStori...amp;contentintid=42658 (Duplicate Story Different Source NY)

Specifically Milwaukee Vote Fraud Articles
http://html.themilwaukeechanne...n-20001110-212212.html
http://html.themilwaukeechanne.../-20001106-144906.html
http://www.wisinfo.com/postcre...e/local_17285472.shtml
http://www.wistv.com/Global/st...70207&nav=0RaPQfmI

Commentary
http://pandora.nla.gov.au/pan/...om.au/us164adkins.html
http://www.suntimes.com/output...y/cst-edt-edits15.html

Jay you asked and have received. . . These are the stories of Voter Fraud from Milwaukee and Double Registered New Yorker's
 

marcello

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Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: CrazyApe
WooHoo!
Democrats have Wisconsin, Republicans have Florida.
Maybe this will be a closer race than we think............


shh... the guy who posted above you doesn't like mirrors


This is great. The topic creator makes a ranting post which gets thrown back in his face, and instead of answering it, he just gives a cookie. Hypocrite.
 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: Crimson
Some shocking facts about the Wisconsin election system:

-You can register to vote AT THE POLLS with no picture ID required. All that is required to REGISTER is a piece of mail with your name an address on it.

-You can register to vote by MAIL.

-Party officials are allowed to LOOK at the list of registered voters DURING the election to see who has voted and who has not.

-Absolute NO ID is required, or CAN BE requested from a person who claims to be a registered voter. If you are a registered voter in the state of Wisconsin, all you need to do is CLAIM to be that person and the poll workers cannot question or ID you. NO verification of identity whatsoever.

-You can vote absentee by mail, all thats required is a witness signature to 'prove' the person who is voting is the one actually signing it.

In the past Presidential Election local news reports undercovered local democratic operatives from New York in Wisconsin offering the usual smokes for voters ON CAMERA.. Given the above information, its easy to get these people to vote MULTIPLE times given all thats needed is a name and address which they are allowed to walk into the polling place and REQUEST the names of people who haven't voted!!!

This is absolutely shocking! There was some controversy in Milwaukee last election about how some polls closed while there was dozens/hundreds of people waiting in line to vote still. It turns out those people were those that the democratic officials found out havent voted and brought to the polls at the last minute to vote. Of course the left then claims that Bush is supressing the black vote. Nevermind most of those people were probably not who they claimed they were, and there is no way to prove it because its against the law.

Its also INSANE that ANY party is allowed to look to see if I have voted or not. Thats absolutely WRONG. Those records should NOT be public.

Local talk show host Mark Belling from WISN Radio in Milwaukee has been reporting that thousands of registations have been coming in already collected from a democratic 527 organization, and that most of them have been thrown out for not having proper identification.. so it looks like the attempts at voter fraud are starting already.

Wisconsin's system is absolutely corrupted, and the democrats took advantage of it last election, and appear to be on their way to do it again. While the left likes to claim the right does it too, there doesn't appear to be any proof of it in Wisconsin, as all the people getting caught are on the left. And all the controversial voting seems to be going on in the city of Milwaukee which has an extremely high percentage of minorities who vote 90% democratic.

If we dare to point out these incidents we are accused of being racists, supressing the black vote, etc. When Republicans in the state of Wisconsin dared to try to require photo ID's to vote, they were labeled racists as well, and the proposal was shot down by our DEMOCRATIC governor. It seems to me that the democrats are not interested in voting reform because it may prevent them from obtaining thousands and thousands of fraud votes.

Requiring someone to prove who they are to vote is not racist, its a good idea that MAKES SENSE.. Wisconsin democrats apparently feel the current system is acceptable.. and I think we know why they are fighting so hard to keep it that way.

Uh points 2, 4, and 5 are all common in most states.
 

Altima

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Hmmm I live in madison WI, when i went to register i needed a picture ID as proof and the piece of mail was to prove i lived in the district i was registering to vote in, thats the way its done all over the state. And also to comment on the absentee ballot stuff.....bush is sending them to people's homes without them requesting them, I got a phone message on my cell phone from bush saying he needed my support and my absentee ballot was in the mail for me...and sure enough it came a few weeks later....so i know you wrote the opposite of what I've said above but from my experience and my borther and two parents...the ID is required to register....the mail is for proof of residence in the district.
 

Crimson

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Originally posted by: marcello
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: CrazyApe
WooHoo!
Democrats have Wisconsin, Republicans have Florida.
Maybe this will be a closer race than we think............


shh... the guy who posted above you doesn't like mirrors


This is great. The topic creator makes a ranting post which gets thrown back in his face, and instead of answering it, he just gives a cookie. Hypocrite.

Umm.. perhaps you should read more carefully. dahunan's post was an attack against my personal appearance.. How exactly SHOULD I respond to a personal attack?
 

marcello

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Aug 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: marcello
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: CrazyApe
WooHoo!
Democrats have Wisconsin, Republicans have Florida.
Maybe this will be a closer race than we think............


shh... the guy who posted above you doesn't like mirrors


This is great. The topic creator makes a ranting post which gets thrown back in his face, and instead of answering it, he just gives a cookie. Hypocrite.

Umm.. perhaps you should read more carefully. dahunan's post was an attack against my personal appearance.. How exactly SHOULD I respond to a personal attack?

Wow, you're an intelligent one. It was not an attack on your personal appearance. It's a metaphor. As in: you're saying that Wisconsin is "ripe for voter fraud by the Democrats" but you're ignoring looking at yourself (this is where the metaphor comes in, so pay attention) in that the Republicans have already been proven to have committed voter fraud in Florida 4 years ago.
 

Kibbo

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Do you have even one person who admits to voting twice or being asked to vote twice on behalf of the Democrats? Are there security flaws? Yes. Are they being exploited? I didn't see any evidence to that effect. Why do you assume?

This system is similar here in Canada. In fact, I once volunteered to "scrutinize" the ballot proccess for the Party I belonged to at the time. This is a system which was invented to prevent fraud, but my party used it in order to contact registered voters who had not voted yet. What the heck is wrong with using legal methods to encourage people to vote? Sure, my party focused on those who had committed to voting for us, and those from neighbourhoods with alot of our voters. But there was nothing preventing the other parties from doing the same. And I assure you that there was no double voting, at least none advocated by our local organizer (whom I know personally).

I would rather have that, then have my fundamental right to vote taken away from me because I lost my wallet.
 

wiin

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During the 2000 election, Democrats sent lawyers to dig up fraud in Florida, but in Wisconsin, they hired lawyers to cover it up.
 

lordtyranus

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Originally posted by: Kibbo
Do you have even one person who admits to voting twice or being asked to vote twice on behalf of the Democrats? Are there security flaws? Yes. Are they being exploited? I didn't see any evidence to that effect. Why do you assume?


There are a couple people who have admitted to voting twice in Florida in New York, both dems. They claim it was an accident.
 
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Originally posted by: Crimson
Some shocking facts about the Wisconsin election system:

-You can register to vote AT THE POLLS with no picture ID required. All that is required to REGISTER is a piece of mail with your name an address on it.

-You can register to vote by MAIL.

-Party officials are allowed to LOOK at the list of registered voters DURING the election to see who has voted and who has not.

-Absolute NO ID is required, or CAN BE requested from a person who claims to be a registered voter. If you are a registered voter in the state of Wisconsin, all you need to do is CLAIM to be that person and the poll workers cannot question or ID you. NO verification of identity whatsoever.

-You can vote absentee by mail, all thats required is a witness signature to 'prove' the person who is voting is the one actually signing it.

In the past Presidential Election local news reports undercovered local democratic operatives from New York in Wisconsin offering the usual smokes for voters ON CAMERA.. Given the above information, its easy to get these people to vote MULTIPLE times given all thats needed is a name and address which they are allowed to walk into the polling place and REQUEST the names of people who haven't voted!!!

This is absolutely shocking! There was some controversy in Milwaukee last election about how some polls closed while there was dozens/hundreds of people waiting in line to vote still. It turns out those people were those that the democratic officials found out havent voted and brought to the polls at the last minute to vote. Of course the left then claims that Bush is supressing the black vote. Nevermind most of those people were probably not who they claimed they were, and there is no way to prove it because its against the law.

Its also INSANE that ANY party is allowed to look to see if I have voted or not. Thats absolutely WRONG. Those records should NOT be public.

Local talk show host Mark Belling from WISN Radio in Milwaukee has been reporting that thousands of registations have been coming in already collected from a democratic 527 organization, and that most of them have been thrown out for not having proper identification.. so it looks like the attempts at voter fraud are starting already.

Wisconsin's system is absolutely corrupted, and the democrats took advantage of it last election, and appear to be on their way to do it again. While the left likes to claim the right does it too, there doesn't appear to be any proof of it in Wisconsin, as all the people getting caught are on the left. And all the controversial voting seems to be going on in the city of Milwaukee which has an extremely high percentage of minorities who vote 90% democratic.

If we dare to point out these incidents we are accused of being racists, supressing the black vote, etc. When Republicans in the state of Wisconsin dared to try to require photo ID's to vote, they were labeled racists as well, and the proposal was shot down by our DEMOCRATIC governor. It seems to me that the democrats are not interested in voting reform because it may prevent them from obtaining thousands and thousands of fraud votes.

Requiring someone to prove who they are to vote is not racist, its a good idea that MAKES SENSE.. Wisconsin democrats apparently feel the current system is acceptable.. and I think we know why they are fighting so hard to keep it that way.

preemptive whining!
 

Mathlete

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Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: jahawkin
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: Perknose
Challenges to a voter?s qualifications can be made by any qualified voter on election day.

Go get 'em, Crimson! Make friends and influence people.

Challenges to their qualifications.. not to their identity.. Besides that site is very vague.. i will try to find wisconsin statutes on voting which will be more specific.

lol a challange of their identification is a challenge of thier qualifications!!
And it can't be any piece of mail it has to be something from the government, something from the bank, etc....

You are right in that it does have to be from a utility or something like that, it can't be a piece of 'junk mail'.. But there is no ID check, so take a piece of mail from someone's mailbox, have another registered voter say you are who is on there, and BAM, you are registered.. And if you are ALREADY registered, no ID is required.. Just say 'I am Perknose, I live at 1234 W. 56th St.' and they hand you the ballot.

Do you ever think. THE MAIL HAS TO HAVE YOUR NAME ON IT. Wow. Nice argument on the taking someones mail. Let's see how that would go.

Voter: Hi I am Joe Blow. Here is my mail saying it's me.

Worker: Yes Joe, but the mail is addressed to Stacey Smith.

Voter: Yes, but this guy will swear I am Joe Blow. (points at friend)

Worker: Yes Joe, but the mail is addressed to Stacey Smith.

Voter: But this guy, Crimson, said...

Worker: You took advice from someone named Crimson?

Voter: YOU'RE VIOLATING MY RIGHTS!!!!

(Exits to sound of rolling laughter)

Oh and if they did decide to require ID. How would that change anything? 10 years ago (when I wasn't 21), I could have showed you proof that I was Paul from MN or Gary from St Louis. Doesn't change anything
 

Thump553

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Crimson, do you have any authority for your allegation that ID checking is specifically disallowed? I'm very suspicious of this claim.

I lived in Wisconsin until 1988 and was very familiar with there voting laws and procedures up to then. Regsitering at the polls/checking voter rolls has been allowed for years, but they certainly used to check IDs very carefully.

Wisconsin is one of the cleanest states, politically, in the US, and probably in the world. It also has a pretty even balance between Dems and GOP (Dems own the cities, GOP owns the rural areas). I would think twice before claiming the sky is falling.
 
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