WOOT!!! NOT GUILTY!!!

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: jonmcc33

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Originally posted by: jonmcc33
Good verdict. Now tell your brother to stay away from idiots in the future.

His brother was minding his own business when he was attacked. If you're statement is true, then everyone in the world would have to stay in their homes 24/7. They're idiots everywhere.

Congrats to your brother. Good to see the justice system worked in this case. :thumbsup:

I can usually run away from someone that's drunk off their ass. Can you? It's called identifying a bad situation and avoiding it.

You must run away from concerts, clubs, sporting events, bars, and other assorted entertainment venues.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Originally posted by: dlock13

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Originally posted by: jonmcc33
Good verdict. Now tell your brother to stay away from idiots in the future.

His brother was minding his own business when he was attacked. If you're statement is true, then everyone in the world would have to stay in their homes 24/7. They're idiots everywhere.

Congrats to your brother. Good to see the justice system worked in this case. :thumbsup:

Teehee. I had to! It is "There".


Also, congrats to you and your family. That definitely is a huge win. I'm glad to see your brother and family are fine again.

Tsk tsk..it's "They're" not "There". "They are" Silly rabbit..

No... what he was saying was "there are" idiots everywhere, not "they are" idiots everywhere. There is no contraction for 'there are'. And everyone missed his "you're" mistake.


Edit: Concealed carry wins again!

 

[wkabel23]

"Instead, the evidence will show that the real reason he shot Austin Bodahl in the heart was not because he needed to protect himself, " Mades said. "The real reason was because the easiest way to win a fistfight is to pull a gun out. "

:roll:

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Originally posted by: jonmcc33
Good verdict. Now tell your brother to stay away from idiots in the future.

His brother was minding his own business when he was attacked. If you're statement is true, then everyone in the world would have to stay in their homes 24/7. They're idiots everywhere.

Congrats to your brother. Good to see the justice system worked in this case. :thumbsup:

true. i have a strong suspicion that i'm an idiot...what should i do?

 

[KK]

Can someone shoot that DA in the ass?

 

[RapidSnail]

"Kelly is vulnerable, " Burke said. "He's alone, he's small, he is odd, he's eccentric, he's wearing a kilt. "

Sorry, that made me laugh.

 

[n7]

Congrats.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: RapidSnail

"Kelly is vulnerable, " Burke said. "He's alone, he's small, he is odd, he's eccentric, he's wearing a kilt. "

Sorry, that made me laugh.

:laugh:

 

[GoingUp]

From a fellow Badger, glad to see your brother got off.

One question though. I know Wisconsin doesn't have a concealed carry law, so how was your brother not charged with carrying a concealed weapon?

 

[chuckywang]

Ted Nugent would be proud.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Congratulations. Sounds like a just verdict to me. :thumbsup:

 

[MrColin]

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
From a fellow Badger, glad to see your brother got off.

One question though. I know Wisconsin doesn't have a concealed carry law, so how was your brother not charged with carrying a concealed weapon?

Shhh!...

Originally posted by: KK
Can someone shoot that DA in the ass?

She was doing her job, fortunately for Dan, she wasn't as good at it as Burke was at his.

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
are the other two guys who were with the douchebag being charged with anything?

I think they were brought in on the night of the shooting and may have been charged with possession of drug paraphernalia, not sure though.

Originally posted by: Darwin333
First of all, congrats on your brother's legal victory. From what I have read its definately the right decision.

Although it sounds like the gun saved his life I really must ask, what is someone with schizoaffective disorder doing with a gun? I don't know the severity of your brothers condition and please don't take this the wrong way, but from my quick google search on it, could he even legally own/carry a gun?

A person may manifest impairments in the perception or expression of reality, most commonly manifesting as auditory hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions or disorganized speech and thinking, as well as discrete manic and/or depressive episodes in the context of significant social or occupational dysfunction.

That sounds like a pretty serious mental disorder for someone who is walking around with a gun. Like I said, I am glad it saved his life and I am glad the justice system worked for him but with his disorder should he really be carrying a gun?

No offense taken. I share your concerns, in fact, my first question when I heard about the incident was "Who the f**k sells a gun to guy that looks like Charles Manson but wearing a kilt and chain mail?" Turns out it was totally legit, in Wisconsin anyway anyone can buy a gun unless they have a felony record or have been involuntarily committed. Neither of those applied to my brother (and still don't). Even if they don't give my brother's gun back, he can still get a new one legally. No criminal convictions on him whatsoever, yet.

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Originally posted by: jonmcc33
Good verdict. Now tell your brother to stay away from idiots in the future.

His brother was minding his own business when he was attacked. If you're statement is true, then everyone in the world would have to stay in their homes 24/7. They're idiots everywhere.

Congrats to your brother. Good to see the justice system worked in this case. :thumbsup:

true. i have a strong suspicion that i'm an idiot...what should i do?

Don't attack any sketchy looking people, especially if they have a gun in their kilt and they try to ward you off with warning shots.

__________________________________________________
Thanks for all of the kind words guys. Most of the initial press following the incident were along the lines of "Crazy homeless person kills son of former legislator." I have a warm fuzzy feeling now because there are no flames in this thread after >30 posts. :heart:

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Darwin333
First of all, congrats on your brother's legal victory. From what I have read its definately the right decision.

Although it sounds like the gun saved his life I really must ask, what is someone with schizoaffective disorder doing with a gun? I don't know the severity of your brothers condition and please don't take this the wrong way, but from my quick google search on it, could he even legally own/carry a gun?

A person may manifest impairments in the perception or expression of reality, most commonly manifesting as auditory hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions or disorganized speech and thinking, as well as discrete manic and/or depressive episodes in the context of significant social or occupational dysfunction.

That sounds like a pretty serious mental disorder for someone who is walking around with a gun. Like I said, I am glad it saved his life and I am glad the justice system worked for him but with his disorder should he really be carrying a gun?

I agree that in this your brother was not guilty, but at the same time wonder about his ability to carry a firearm.

While a gun can save anyone's life, in the wrong hands it can end many.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Originally posted by: FoBoT
nice to see self defense is still respected

by the citizens who make up the juries.

Fixed it for you. The DA does not respect self defense.
Please note that defending oneself is one's most basic human right, yet every DA , Cop, or politician ever has said is ... while this case is an exception, citizens should not take the law into their own hands, blah, blah, blah.".

Taking the law into one's hands is not about self-defense. It's only about when you could have walked away, called the police, not chase someone down.

Best way to end any altercation is to walk away. Many think since they are packing; they should get some groveling apology from a 'possible' assailant. Then things go south and they get attacked and the now pissed off assailant gets killed.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

 

[IEC]

"Burke and co-counsel Tracey Lencioni, both assistant state public defenders, never denied that the kilt-clad Kelly shot Bodahl. Instead, they argued that Kelly shot Bodahl in self defense after firing *two warning shots* from a very small .22-caliber handgun that did not stop Bodahl from fighting with Kelly.

During closing arguments Friday morning, Assistant District Attorney Lana Mades told jurors that Kelly, 31, a former National Guardsman who served in Kosovo, did not take reasonable steps to avoid the fight with Bodahl. It was not self-defense, she said, when he shot Bodahl with the gun he carried in a homemade holster under his kilt."

 

[Kelemvor]

Glad things worked out the way they did. Hope your family can put this behind them and get back to some semblance of a normal life.

 

[CKent]

Quite a story, glad it worked out for your brother as it should have. It's really something that you don't hold the guy in contempt for putting you all through this. I'd be pretty pissed at the time lost in my life to the ordeal and glad that a jerk like that can't go on to breed.

 

[imported_Truenofan]

glad to know that my home state is still sane for self defense. ahh i cant wait to get back.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

I read about this in the local news. As a recent transplant to Madison I was interested to see how a liberal town would react to a self-defense shooting. Looks like the people on the jury reacted like I would have.

"'The defendant wants you to put a stamp of approval on his decision that 23-year-old Austin Bodahl deserved a death sentence for simply being drunk and disorderly,' Mades said." Since when is trying to beat the shit out of someone merely drunk & disorderly? It's aggravated assault.

And f the 'witnesses' who said neither man looked like they were winning the fight. They're a bunch of cowards for not doing something.

I hope to see your kilt-wearing bro on State St. again.

 

[MrDaniel]

One question though. I know Wisconsin doesn't have a concealed carry law, so how was your brother not charged with carrying a concealed weapon?

They probably would have if i had answered any of their questions. i used my rights at the interrogation table. that's why they went for the nuts. "Oh this guy thinks He Knows His Rights, huh?" "You just read them to me dickhead."

the lawyer said something about that. it was a long time ago but i think it had to do with having to prosecute the most severe crime first. after i was found not guilty on that charge they can't really charge me with carrying a concealed weapon cuz that would be an attempt to circumvent my right to self defense. had they tried it would have gone to the state supreme court and wisconsin would had become an unregulated concealed carry state. i proved my use of lethal force in self defense. they cannot then say i had no right having possesion of lethal force, not without losing another case anyway

or something like that.

 

[akshatp]

Whoa old thread... I am guessing MrDaniel is the brother of MrColin (OP)?

 

[SampSon]

Karma.

 

[MrDaniel]

yep hello. sry it took me so long. there are so many of these threads in so many places and i find them every now and then. this one happened to be started by someone claming to be my brother :/ pretty sure he never told me about it. prolly cuz he talks about crying

<--- necro

 

[MrDaniel]

Karma.

neither a god nor a guru have any role in a person's karma—the individual is considered to be the sole doer and enjoyer of his karmas and their 'fruits'

 

[MrDaniel]

Quite a story, glad it worked out for your brother as it should have. It's really something that you don't hold the guy in contempt for putting you all through this. I'd be pretty pissed at the time lost in my life to the ordeal and glad that a jerk like that can't go on to breed.

sand castles, i used to make them every day in elementary school. and at the end of every recess i'd smash them. for six months i built a sandcastle made of pure hate. it's proving a little more difficult to smash

"go ahead and shoot, my dad's a politician. you'll spend the rest of your life behind bars." tattooed on his hands 1983right(horseshoe ring) - 20**left(skull ring). i think dude was just looking for the right... tattoo artist.

Best way to end any altercation is to walk away.

walk away, hell. i ran! gave that fool so many chances. the only reason the cops never found the bullet marks was because they didn't look far enough away. after successfully thwarting his attack i had to make a get away since i popped off 2 shots in the heart of downtown with an illegally concealed weapon, i went for my bike and stuff. this is when the other two began.... thinking. they figured they'd block me from coming back and getting my bike/junk, make me run for it before someone comes about the gunshots, and make off with it like bandits themselves. Now the assault is a mugging. no way i could have made it out of there without my bike. they managed to stall me long enough for bodahl to get back up, nearly get squished by a bus, come back and jump me again.

did you know i won my trial without ever even testifying?