Working out daily...

Paulson

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Let me tell you, working out daily sure does suck...

This summer I've gotten pissed at myself and decided to fix some things I find wrong with me...

I'm 6'1... I can easily bench 250 pounds, but I don't do it often... so I started working out the whole last month of june...

My goal... run 1 mile a day, and use the other exercise machines to burn another 500 calories per day (running 1 mile burns 172 calories for me)

I also weightlift every day. I know you're not supposed to but I just don't care. I have a set on about 12 different machines... once the week is up I bump the set up by 10 pounds.

So far I haven't lost any weight (yet I've eliminated drinking pop or eating sweets)

I hope by the end of the summer I actually can see the abs that I work on now
 

Electric Amish

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Have you altered your diet, other than pop & sweets?

If you keep eating the same amount, more, or just crappy stuff you won't lose weight.

You're calorie intake must be lower than your calorie's burned.
 

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if you know ur not supposed to weightlift everyday, why do it? stop being counter-productive
 

Paulson

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I altered my diet... where as I take in a lot less... I'll only drink water, try to eat more vegetables and fruits rather than other stuff... I virtually stopped eating fast food... Maybe I'm not doing something right...

And I work out every day because if I wouldn't do it every day I'd lose the urge to continue doing it... I'm a kind of person who starts something and has to continue to do it otherwise it's not going to work...
 

Konigin

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Originally posted by: Paulson
Let me tell you, working out daily sure does suck...

This summer I've gotten pissed at myself and decided to fix some things I find wrong with me...

I'm 6'1... I can easily bench 250 pounds, but I don't do it often... so I started working out the whole last month of june...

My goal... run 1 mile a day, and use the other exercise machines to burn another 500 calories per day (running 1 mile burns 172 calories for me)

I also weightlift every day. I know you're not supposed to but I just don't care. I have a set on about 12 different machines... once the week is up I bump the set up by 10 pounds.

So far I haven't lost any weight (yet I've eliminated drinking pop or eating sweets)

I hope by the end of the summer I actually can see the abs that I work on now

You should rest between weightlifting, its not so much quantity but quality that counts, work too often, your ability won't be as good as if you had a little time to recover. The whole last month of June? When did you start? June 1st, nothing happened yet?
 

Electric Amish

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Sounds like you need more cardio. Burn more calories. Weight-lifting doesn't really burn a lot of calories, afaik.

amish
 

PunDogg

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try to run a little more than one mile, to burn a decent amout of cals and get that endurance u need to keep your heart rate up for about 20 mins.

Try adding a little distance everyweek, and maybe take away one or two machines, u might be over doing it, and your body can;t repair enough to get the muscle you want.

Dogg
 

Paulson

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I do work out for 30 minutes on a machine that you stand upright on, and I burn nearly 500 calories (plus the mile I run...)

throughout it my heart rate is at about 180....
 

Blackened

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Having gone through this ordeal myself - and going from a 40" waist to a 29" - Here's a bit of friendly advice.
IF you want to lose bodyfat, concentrate on doing high intensity aerobic activity, such as running
or jogging for as long as you can - trust me this will do MUCH more than weight lifting
for losing fat, especially if you do it on an empty stomach. The other thing to keep in mind
is that building muscle requires a caloric surplus and the actions of insulin to properly shuttle
nutrients to muscle cells, which promotes growth - both of these actions are counterproductive
to losing bodyfat.

Once you've lost the fat, then concentrate fully on building your strength - and when you do,
lower the volume, use FREE WEIGHTS and lose the stupid machines.
 

Blackened

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Huh? One mile can work wonders if he's in a caloric deficit. If his intensity is high enough,
he can burn nearly 200 calories running a mile, and coupled with a clean diet that provides
a deficit he can most definitely lose bodyfat.
 

Ranger X

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When you say you can "easily bench 250", does that mean you can do a set of 10 without any help?
 

Rudee

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Sounds like you need more cardio. Burn more calories. Weight-lifting doesn't really burn a lot of calories, afaik.

amish

Oh really? Get under the squat rack with me for 8 heavy sets of deep squats, supersetted with heavy leg extensions with only 1 minute rest between sets, and try to catch your breath. Weight lifting can be very aerobic if you reduce your rest time and increase the intensity. Besides, the biggest metabolic gain comes with the added muscle mass which will surely follow if you workout hard and eat properly.

 

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Originally posted by: Blackened
Huh? One mile can work wonders if he's in a caloric deficit. If his intensity is high enough,
he can burn nearly 200 calories running a mile, and coupled with a clean diet that provides
a deficit he can most definitely lose bodyfat.

I'm running 2 miles a day, I still do some weightlifting, but didn't get as good of results with weights as cardio. Should I increase to 3?
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Sounds like you need more cardio. Burn more calories. Weight-lifting doesn't really burn a lot of calories, afaik.

amish

Should have stopped with your first post, which was quit accurate.

As for this post, it has been scientifically proven more than once that anaerobic exercise burns more calories in the long run than aerobic.

 

Rudee

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Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Sounds like you need more cardio. Burn more calories. Weight-lifting doesn't really burn a lot of calories, afaik.

amish

Should have stopped with your first post, which was quit accurate.

As for this post, it has been scientifically proven more than once that anaerobic exercise burns more calories in the long run than aerobic.

The reason being: strength training increases muscle mass. Muscle mass is metabolically active and requires greater energy to maintain. Added muscle mass burns calories 24/7. Aerobic exercise alone burns calories during the exercise, and a short period afterward. Contrary to popular opinion, aerobics alone does not create a sustained metabolic rate.

 

Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Sounds like you need more cardio. Burn more calories. Weight-lifting doesn't really burn a lot of calories, afaik.

amish

Should have stopped with your first post, which was quit accurate.

As for this post, it has been scientifically proven more than once that anaerobic exercise burns more calories in the long run than aerobic.

Is this guy wrong then?

According to this... 10 minutes of weight lifting = 52 calories. 10 minutes of jogging burns 106.

amish
 

Rudee

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Sounds like you need more cardio. Burn more calories. Weight-lifting doesn't really burn a lot of calories, afaik.

amish

Should have stopped with your first post, which was quit accurate.

As for this post, it has been scientifically proven more than once that anaerobic exercise burns more calories in the long run than aerobic.

Is this guy wrong then?

According to this... 10 minutes of weight lifting = 52 calories. 10 minutes of jogging burns 106.

amish

In the long run, strength training wins. If you take two people, give them identical diets, however one person performs only aerobic exercise (no strength training). The other person performs only strength training (no direct aerobics). Assuming all things being equal the person with the added muscle mass will have a higher resting metabolic rate than the person doing aerobics only.

 

Blackened

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Originally posted by: Rudee
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Sounds like you need more cardio. Burn more calories. Weight-lifting doesn't really burn a lot of calories, afaik.

amish

Oh really? Get under the squat rack with me for 8 heavy sets of deep squats, supersetted with heavy leg extensions with only 1 minute rest between sets, and try to catch your breath. Weight lifting can be very aerobic if you reduce your rest time and increase the intensity. Besides, the biggest metabolic gain comes with the added muscle mass which will surely follow if you workout hard and eat properly.

THE PROBLEM WITH THIS IS TO GAIN MUSCLE MASS, you need to have a caloric surplus and you need
insulin to transport nutrients to muscle cells to help them recover - BOTH of these are counterproductive
to losing fat! Lipolysis (release of fatty acids from fat cells) CAN NOT OCCUR in the presence of insulin - and on
a flipnote - Muscle gain cannot occur WITHOUT insulin. If you want to lose bodyfat, you should concentrate on doing high intensity aerobics, period!
Now weightlifting can be beneficial in that it will help minimize muscle wasting which is pretty prevelant
in people that do alot of running - but this is not an issue until you get to a relatively low bodyfat percentage,
I would say around 13% and below.

The other thing is - the KEY to burning fat is a consistently high heart rate! Yes squats will definitely
boost your heart rate up there but how long does a set of 20 squats last? 1 minute? Than you'll probably
rest for 3-4. Cardio will raise your heartrate consistently over a longer period of time thus its MUCH BETTER
for burning fat.
 

Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: Rudee
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Sounds like you need more cardio. Burn more calories. Weight-lifting doesn't really burn a lot of calories, afaik.

amish

Should have stopped with your first post, which was quit accurate.

As for this post, it has been scientifically proven more than once that anaerobic exercise burns more calories in the long run than aerobic.

Is this guy wrong then?

According to this... 10 minutes of weight lifting = 52 calories. 10 minutes of jogging burns 106.

amish

In the long run, strength training wins. If you take two people, give them identical diets, however one person performs only aerobic exercise (no strength training). The other person performs only strength training (no direct aerobics). Assuming all things being equal the person with the added muscle mass will have a higher resting metabolic rate than the person doing aerobics only.

I never said that he should stop the weight lifting, I was just saying I thought a little more aerobic at the beginning of his quest to lose weight might help him lose weight in the beginning, especially if he's just trying to lose weight and not build muscle.
 

Blackened

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Yes, he should do both once he gets to a lower bodyfat percentage - diet and cardio for losing the fat, and
weightlifting to prevent too much muscle wasting - But cardio is absolutely better than weightlifting
for losing bodyfat.
 

Whisper

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From what I hear, running on an empty stomach is about the worst thing you can do. It burns fat, but it also eats muscle for energy. Or at least from what others have told me.

Personally, I do weight training almost exclusively, and cardio if I have time. I'd like to lose about 2-3 lbs in fat still, but seeing as how I'm currently at roughly 7% body fat, I'd say that weight training has worked for me.

However, that said, I would agree that doing cardio is probably an easier way of burning fat than weight training. Weight training does burn calories constantly throughout the day, as the muscle it builds requires energy. However, this will also tend to make a person eat more in order to maintain the muscle. Cardio, on the other hand, doesn't really make you hungry like weight training does. Thus, you probably just end up eating less while doing more with cardio (as opposed to weight training, where you're doing more but also eating more).
 

Rudee

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Originally posted by: Blackened
Originally posted by: Rudee
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Sounds like you need more cardio. Burn more calories. Weight-lifting doesn't really burn a lot of calories, afaik.

amish

Oh really? Get under the squat rack with me for 8 heavy sets of deep squats, supersetted with heavy leg extensions with only 1 minute rest between sets, and try to catch your breath. Weight lifting can be very aerobic if you reduce your rest time and increase the intensity. Besides, the biggest metabolic gain comes with the added muscle mass which will surely follow if you workout hard and eat properly.

THE PROBLEM WITH THIS IS TO GAIN MUSCLE MASS, you need to have a caloric surplus and you need
insulin to transport nutrients to muscle cells to help them recover - BOTH of these are counterproductive
to losing fat! IF you want to lose bodyfat, you should concentrate on doing high intensity aerobics, period!
Now weightlifting can be beneficial in that it will help minimize muscle wasting which is pretty prevelant
in people that do alot of running - but this is not an issue until you get to a relatively low bodyfat percentage,
I would say around 13% and below.

The other thing is - the KEY to burning fat is a consistently high heart rate! Yes squats will definitely
boost your heart rate up there but how long does a set of 20 squats last? 1 minute? Than you'll probably
rest for 3-4. Cardio will raise your heartrate consistently over a longer period of time thus its MUCH BETTER
for burning fat.


An overreliance on aerobics will produce a depressed metabolic rate due to muscle wasting. Aerobics does not raise resting metabolic rate for any significant period of time. Aerobics burns calories. Whether it burns calories from fat or calories from muscle or calories from glycogen depends a lot on your energy expenditure. Contrary to popular opinion, sprinting on the treadmill does not allow your body to tap into it's fat stores. You'll be burning sugar for fuel, not fat. Fat is metabolized at a lower rate, thus you need to slow down to a moderate speed to properly tap into fat stores. High Intensity aerobics is good at burning sugar, not fat. If you are already relatively lean, then high intensity aerobics will surely cause you to waste precious muscle. Raising your metabolic rate through strength training is a MUCH BETTER way of burning bodyfat.
 
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