Would I like Skyrim?

moonbogg

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I have never really been into RPG's at all. I have always been into RTS and FPS games. I did like stalker a lot (original) and I really like Far Cry 3. I have read that if you like Skyrim you would like Far Cry 3 and its even been called 'Skyrim with guns". However, I didn't like Borderlands very much. Go figure. Anyway, do you think I would like Skyrim?
I'm really not very interested in spending weeks and weeks collecting magical potions and all that magic crap. I really don't like complicated combat where you open a MASSIVE magic spell menu, choose a combination of overly complicated magic potions, use the potions on your enemy, and then while they are frozen or something you shatter them with a bow and arrow. Thats my idea of RPG games. Overly complicated, nothing is straight forward, nothing is simple, takes eons to accomplish anything etc etc.
So again, would I like Skyrim?
 

darkewaffle

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I couldn't get into Skyrim because the gameplay was just bad. I couldn't play it beyond the first few hours; I felt the same way with FO3. Combat was so klunky and delayed and just uninteresting that it ruined what otherwise might have been an interesting world to at least see.

Ultimately I think I personally can't get into sandbox games. If I want a sandbox I'll get off my ass and go outside. I like games that give me a mission, a sense of urgency, something that makes me feel driven. That's not something Bethesda does well/at all imo.
 

PowerYoga

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I couldn't get into Skyrim because the gameplay was just bad. I couldn't play it beyond the first few hours; I felt the same way with FO3. Combat was so klunky and delayed and just uninteresting that it ruined what otherwise might have been an interesting world to at least see.

Ultimately I think I personally can't get into sandbox games. If I want a sandbox I'll get off my ass and go outside. I like games that give me a mission, a sense of urgency, something that makes me feel driven. That's not something Bethesda does well/at all imo.

Thats kinda how I felt about fo3. There are sandbox games I loved like sleeping dogs, infamous 1 + 2 and to some degree GTA. But FO3 was so terrible for me I didn't want to try skyrim.
 

SMOGZINN

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lol thats hilarious. So Skyrim is a single player game, right? It has main missions, or quests to complete? Is there a multiplayer aspect to the game?

No multiplayer at all. There is a main mission and a ton of side missions. Then you can just wander around and find interesting things to do if you want.

I would like to point out that it is not Far Cry 3 that is Skyrim with guns, it is Fallout 3. Very different game.
 

diesbudt

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I couldn't get into Skyrim because the gameplay was just bad. I couldn't play it beyond the first few hours; I felt the same way with FO3. Combat was so klunky and delayed and just uninteresting that it ruined what otherwise might have been an interesting world to at least see.

Ultimately I think I personally can't get into sandbox games. If I want a sandbox I'll get off my ass and go outside. I like games that give me a mission, a sense of urgency, something that makes me feel driven. That's not something Bethesda does well/at all imo.

Are you not a little old to go play in a sandbox outside? And do you really wanna get sand in your clothes?

Bethesda is a champion of sandbox, I love their sandbox games. I really enjoy skyrim, and probably have 300+ hours into that game on different playthroughs and new mods and such to try the game anew.
 
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diesbudt

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No multiplayer at all. There is a main mission and a ton of side missions. Then you can just wander around and find interesting things to do if you want.

I would like to point out that it is not Far Cry 3 that is Skyrim with guns, it is Fallout 3. Very different game.

I am one of those people that as I head to an objective, if I pass a cave/dungeon... I MUST EXPLORE. And thus going from A ---> B to finish some small side quest I accepted can take hours of gameplay...

One of the reasons I really like TES series.

Morrowind was amazing, Oblivion was decent, Skyrim I really enjoy.


Not the biggest fan of fallout series, mostly because I am not a big fan of the pause and have your character automatically take a shot at a certain body part for % chance of hitting. Kinda ruins it for me.
 
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I couldn't get into Skyrim because the gameplay was just bad. I couldn't play it beyond the first few hours; I felt the same way with FO3. Combat was so klunky and delayed and just uninteresting that it ruined what otherwise might have been an interesting world to at least see.

Ultimately I think I personally can't get into sandbox games. If I want a sandbox I'll get off my ass and go outside. I like games that give me a mission, a sense of urgency, something that makes me feel driven. That's not something Bethesda does well/at all imo.

It is a matter of what you like. Personally, Skyrim is one of my top five favorite games of all time, but I am a big fan of RPGs. I don't know what you mean by the gameplay was "bad". I suppose the combat could be more fluid, but it is not really about the combat per se exactly.
Surprisingly since I like Skyrim and Oblivion a lot, I could not get into the FO3 either. In Skyrim, I just liked wondering around, doing quests, levelling up, upgrading skills, etc. If you or the OP like more intense, mission driven games, Skyrim might not be your cup of tea. I just dont think it is fair to label the gameplay as bad, although it might not fit your playstyle.
 

Todd33

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I like RPGs and thought Skyrm was garbage. Sure it is pretty and big, but that wears off quickly. It is boring, story is poorly done and paced. All quest turn into "go here, kill x" or "go into cave, steal or kill x". The combat is the absolute worst.

Get a cheap copy of Fallout 3 is you want to try a good RPG by the same developer.
 

diesbudt

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It is a matter of what you like. Personally, Skyrim is one of my top five favorite games of all time, but I am a big fan of RPGs. I don't know what you mean by the gameplay was "bad". I suppose the combat could be more fluid, but it is not really about the combat per se exactly.
Surprisingly since I like Skyrim and Oblivion a lot, I could not get into the FO3 either. In Skyrim, I just liked wondering around, doing quests, levelling up, upgrading skills, etc. If you or the OP like more intense, mission driven games, Skyrim might not be your cup of tea. I just dont think it is fair to label the gameplay as bad, although it might not fit your playstyle.

Yes, it isn't fluid combat if you go 3rd person, but honestly I enjoy 1st person in this series, and is a reason I enjoy it. The fluidity of combat isn't broken if you go into first person as much.

But yea preferece.

It is an RPG, adventure, can be First Person, some small puzzles.
 

diesbudt

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I like RPGs and thought Skyrm was garbage. Sure it is pretty and big, but that wears off quickly. It is boring, story is poorly done and paced. All quest turn into "go here, kill x" or "go into cave, steal or kill x". The combat is the absolute worst.

Story is poorly done...? Not if you actually pay attention to it.

Since when has a game been created in which quests don't have objectives that require doing X or Y? It will never change. That is why they are quests... you go out and achieve some act for some person. Would you rather it be "Go to X and pick 5 cotton tundra flowers for me"

Combat isn't the best, but I find it decent enough. The combat in fallout series is worst. And that is primarily because of the pause and choose automatically where to shoot thing.

Don't get me wrong I have no problems with people disliking games, however your reasons are either too short with no explaination, which can show you didn't give it the chance to actually get the feeling, or they are issues that every game within teh same genre series has, because that is what makes it a game in said genre, and thus not the game itself.
 

Face2Face

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Skyrim is my favorite game of all time. I didn't care for Oblivion much, but Skyrim was a game I played and played and still play. I have over 180hrs and still enjoy playing it. Taking a break and playing Farcry 3 now and really like it as well. Even people who don't like RPG's, like Skyrim.
 

Daverino

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My girlfriend made me get an XBox last week and it came with Skyrim. I just started playing myself. Granted the graphics are horrible because, well, it's an XBox, but the game itself is OK and I find it pretty relaxing to tool around with it on the couch. It's a massive sandbox and I always have something I can do. That's both the blessing and the curse of Bethesda games. If you're a completionist (like me) you can quickly get overwhelmed and just lose interest completely. I had this problem with Oblivion and, honestly, never finished it. Same for FO3.

On the couch, though, I don't feel as pressured. So I think I'm enjoying it more as a console than a PC game.

Oh, and the combat blows. I'm a Dark Souls fanatic. Relative to DS, this game has miserable combat. But that's only for melee. I've heard that both magic and archery are superior in Skyrim to DS. Haven't used either of those in my game yet.
 

TakeNoPrisoners

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Skyrim combat isn't complicated at all. It has actually been simplified from Oblivion and Morrowind. Morrowind had dice roll hit characteristics so you could visually hit somebody but still miss as your character failed the die roll. Oblivion changed that and made it so when you hit something, you actually hit it. But Oblivion had a convoluted leveling system that forced you to train things you didn't really have any use for to get the maximum amount of attribute points.

Skyrim fixed the leveling from Oblivion while keeping the combat simple and making it more flashy and engaging. Morrowind is more like the traditional RPG you think of but not quite.

The TES series has taken hints from console games over time and made simpler with each iteration.
 
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diesbudt

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Skyrim combat isn't complicated at all. It has actually been simplified from Oblivion and Morrowind. Morrowind had dice roll hit characteristics so you could visually hit somebody but still miss as your character failed the die roll. Oblivion changed that and made it so when you hit something, you actually hit it. But Oblivion had a convoluted leveling system that forced you to train things you didn't really have any use for to get the maximum amount of attribute points.

Skyrim fixed the leveling from Oblivion while keeping the combat simple and making it more flashy and engaging. Morrowind is more like the traditional RPG you think of but not quite.

Yea. I like the dice roll mechanics. But I couldn't get by the fact it would miss even though I am on top of them and swung on them and their character didn't actually dodge.

I would have liekd the dice roll mechanics more, if the enemy was to dodge so the swing missed, or the swing would purposly miss to the side, just to visually make me realize the attack missed.
 

cmdrdredd

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If you don't like the combat you need to be a spellcaster. It's a lot better IMO.

Also gets better when you learn different shouts. One can disarm, one can cause fear, one can call ghosts to help...

However there is something about modding the game to get Samurai style armor and a 2 handed katana stylized like in Feudal Japan and seeing your character decapitate an opponent or run them through in a kill cam. Or a percision sniper shot from your bow fly through the air to kill your target and knock them off the wall they were guarding.
 

agness

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My boyfriend played Skyrim and i sometimes watch how he plays. That's really great game. It has amazing story and awesome graphic.
 

BD231

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Skyrim was way over hyped, talking dragons, weak battles, short story line and a massive world with zero reason to explore any of it. One and done for me, zero replay value.
 

Face2Face

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Skyrim was way over hyped, talking dragons, weak battles, short story line and a massive world with zero reason to explore any of it. One and done for me, zero replay value.

Blasphemy!!!
 
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Red Storm

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If you're going to get it make sure you get the PC version. Anything you find annoying in the game can be (and mostly likely already has been) modded more to your liking.
 

clok1966

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Skyrim was way over hyped, talking dragons, weak battles, short story line and a massive world with zero reason to explore any of it. One and done for me, zero replay value.

I respect opinions when backed with reason.. saying a game SUCKS and not stating why is silly.. don't enjoy it.. no problem.. but in a thread where somebody is asking questions.. please back some of it up. I enjoyed Skyrim so its easy for me to dismiss any of your comments.. especially with not even a example to back them up.. but again.. I'm not saying this to piss you off, more of.. "why say its SUCKS" then walk away.. you added nothing to the conversation.. and if that was your point, again.. I guess to each thier own.

Again its easy for me to dismiss as I liked it..

OverHyped- well to sell stuff you advertise.. and since almost all game mags rated the game quite highly.. I beg to differ. The gaming public made it one of the top 5 selling games of the year, it is leading game of the year polls ( game players, not reviews, but the actual players) But again we all dont like the same thing.. but the majority did like it.

Talking Dragons- well I'm not sure, this is a complaint? Most old fantasy books have dragons as highly intelligent and can talk. I guess this one can go any way.. no problem not liking it (myslef, i felt the dragons where to easy to beat)

Weak battles- cant argue this one, it was fairly easy.. but then again a Draugr Death Overlord one shotting ya could get ugly fast so fighting hem in tight areas got was no fun.. or some of the bandit camps with 10 on 1 fights.

Short Story line-well its been famously know that the Elder scroll game can be completed in MINUTES (13 minutes for Morrowind) if you skip everything but the main quest.. Of course most RPG players enjoy side quests and don't do this..

massive world with zero reason to explore any of it- this one is the one I cant let you off on.. Why does anybody explore? the game world has 100's of locations that do not pertain to the main quest, dungeons, prisons, caves, dwarf ruins, plain old ruins, bandit camps, keeps, towers, grotto's, etc.. You explore to "FIND" and there are many many things to find..


Again.. don't like it.. i have no problem with that.. but say way..

Combat- melee combat has a stand offish feel, you move the mouse in specific ways to preform slashes, thrusts, or overhead blows.. but the delay, the view angle and lack of way to judge distance from an oponante can make it feel cumbersome. There is not way to tell if you nicked him or did huge damage other then a health bar which takes you out of the game some. Not to mention ranged enemies seem to have a huge advantage ins some locations as you cant get to them quickly while they can pepper you with fire from afar.
 
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