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CVSiN

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Originally posted by: mchammer187
Originally posted by: CVSiN
This is not Fileplanets problem..
this is packaged by blizzard...
we had this problem since alpha...
why wont you people just follow the directions.. common wtf.. everyone should have Winzip by now...
its the standard compression for just about everyhting except warez...
which tends to use rar and ACEs..

sigh I love how everyone automatically blames FP for everything..

I have been an FP customer for 2 years.. and its a great service if you like to dload mods patches and betas...always fast and no waiting..

just buy or download the trail for winzip it never ever time bombs.. it just comes up with a register me popup that you can go around every time...

the thing is fileplanet knew a ton of people would subscribe to fileplanet for the sole purpose of downloading the STF

they have a huge banner that says NO WAIT downloads and what did they do make people wait
for 12-24 hours or even more for a service they paid
when th ST only lasts 5-7 days waiting a whole day is a whole lot

They cannot claim "ignorance" because they know how many people participated in the last stress test

they are the ones that advertise a NO WAITING EVER to their subscribers
while even after I became a subscriber I had to wait 8 hours just for them let me download WoW


the last game I played for any significant amount of time was Warcraft : TFT
so no I don't download alot of patches or betas and I paid money just to play WoW early

not to mention the hide their 7.95 a month plan for the World of Warcraft ST so you have to search for it because they knew people would sign up Just for the Stress test instead of only appearing to have an option to sign up for $15

I will never use Fileplanet again so yes I feel very ripped off


As for the Zip problem that is all I read in the Beta forums so I have no idea if that was true or not

as for your comment on ZIP , RAR is a superior compression scheme , not to mention the program is a lot better that is why I use it

and WINRAR does unzip so the fact that you had to use Winzip tells me at least Blizzard if not Fileplanet made a deal with Winzip

because WinRar will extract any other Zip file

I hate winrar... i have it and ACE and i dont use them.. i use Winzip9.0 at least 100x every day..
it opens faster and decompresses faster for me... instead of openeing a whole program winzip stays resident and allows me to unzip on the fly...

as for waiting on FP.. this I agree with...
I was very upset that i had to wait 8 hours to dload my beta...
as the Bliz BT was absolutly crawling this time...
FP shoulda been 100x as fast so I tried to use it...
unfortunatly I was able to dload faster through BT than waiting for my account to be flagged.

so I Agree there... but then again this is not FPs problem.. they had no idea how much intrest there is in the open beta.. nor did they compensate for the peeps that are sharing accounts in order to dload through fileplanet instead of using the crappy BT downloader...
I know half my guild is sharing 1 FP account that was flagged before the others to dload the client so we can play faster...
If my guild is doing this Im sure 100000s of other peeps have figured they can do this out as well..
keeping the FP servers 100% jammed...

this is Blizzards fault..
if they had a regular patcher like other games instead of crappy ass Bittorrent.. peeps wouldnt be forced to hammer FP.
We the internal beta testers have been askign for them toc hange that since day 1...
they arnt goign to bucge saying that the average patch in final is going to be under 100mb and BT works fine in that aspect =/

 

mchammer187

Diamond Member
Nov 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: mchammer187
Originally posted by: CVSiN
This is not Fileplanets problem..
this is packaged by blizzard...
we had this problem since alpha...
why wont you people just follow the directions.. common wtf.. everyone should have Winzip by now...
its the standard compression for just about everyhting except warez...
which tends to use rar and ACEs..

sigh I love how everyone automatically blames FP for everything..

I have been an FP customer for 2 years.. and its a great service if you like to dload mods patches and betas...always fast and no waiting..

just buy or download the trail for winzip it never ever time bombs.. it just comes up with a register me popup that you can go around every time...

the thing is fileplanet knew a ton of people would subscribe to fileplanet for the sole purpose of downloading the STF

they have a huge banner that says NO WAIT downloads and what did they do make people wait
for 12-24 hours or even more for a service they paid
when th ST only lasts 5-7 days waiting a whole day is a whole lot

They cannot claim "ignorance" because they know how many people participated in the last stress test

they are the ones that advertise a NO WAITING EVER to their subscribers
while even after I became a subscriber I had to wait 8 hours just for them let me download WoW


the last game I played for any significant amount of time was Warcraft : TFT
so no I don't download alot of patches or betas and I paid money just to play WoW early

not to mention the hide their 7.95 a month plan for the World of Warcraft ST so you have to search for it because they knew people would sign up Just for the Stress test instead of only appearing to have an option to sign up for $15

I will never use Fileplanet again so yes I feel very ripped off


As for the Zip problem that is all I read in the Beta forums so I have no idea if that was true or not

as for your comment on ZIP , RAR is a superior compression scheme , not to mention the program is a lot better that is why I use it

and WINRAR does unzip so the fact that you had to use Winzip tells me at least Blizzard if not Fileplanet made a deal with Winzip

because WinRar will extract any other Zip file

I hate winrar... i have it and ACE and i dont use them.. i use Winzip9.0 at least 100x every day..
it opens faster and decompresses faster for me... instead of openeing a whole program winzip stays resident and allows me to unzip on the fly...

as for waiting on FP.. this I agree with...
I was very upset that i had to wait 8 hours to dload my beta...
as the Bliz BT was absolutly crawling this time...
FP shoulda been 100x as fast so I tried to use it...
unfortunatly I was able to dload faster through BT than waiting for my account to be flagged.

so I Agree there... but then again this is not FPs problem.. they had no idea how much intrest there is in the open beta.. nor did they compensate for the peeps that are sharing accounts in order to dload through fileplanet instead of using the crappy BT downloader...
I know half my guild is sharing 1 FP account that was flagged before the others to dload the client so we can play faster...
If my guild is doing this Im sure 100000s of other peeps have figured they can do this out as well..
keeping the FP servers 100% jammed...

this is Blizzards fault..
if they had a regular patcher like other games instead of crappy ass Bittorrent.. peeps wouldnt be forced to hammer FP.
We the internal beta testers have been askign for them toc hange that since day 1...
they arnt goign to bucge saying that the average patch in final is going to be under 100mb and BT works fine in that aspect =/


they knew how much interest was generated because

1. they knew how many participated in the last stress test
2. they wanted a lot of people to sign up just for the beta and knew they would because they removed any sign of a lesser subscription fee making it seem like you had to sign up for 3 months

obviously they paid blizzard to have exclusive rights to this because otherwise they would let anyone host the file and blizz would distribute the keys themselves if it was about bandwidth

the fact that they only let fileplanet have keys suggests this

and this is fine but don't advertise NO WAITING ever if you are not 100% sure that you can handle this
because by day 3 there are still people who are waiting 12+ hours to get in

also winrar has shell extensions as well so you never have to open the program just right click on any ZIP, RAR , ACE, TAR etc. and click extract and it does it a helluva lot faster than winzip on my machine

winzip is slower (at compressing and decompressing) and not as efficient (less compression albeit not that much of a difference)
 

Glavinsolo

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Sep 2, 2004
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With the Blizzard downloader:

1. Can I cancel it and pick up where I left off If I assign it to the same directory?

2. Somehow limit the upload speed to 15kb/s so my network won't be so congested?

thanks
 

CVSiN

Diamond Member
Jul 19, 2004
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Originally posted by: Glavinsolo
With the Blizzard downloader:

1. Can I cancel it and pick up where I left off If I assign it to the same directory?

2. Somehow limit the upload speed to 15kb/s so my network won't be so congested?

thanks

yes
no...
thats the problem they set the software to always go with more upload =/
 

CVSiN

Diamond Member
Jul 19, 2004
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Originally posted by: mchammer187
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: mchammer187
Originally posted by: CVSiN
This is not Fileplanets problem..
this is packaged by blizzard...
we had this problem since alpha...
why wont you people just follow the directions.. common wtf.. everyone should have Winzip by now...
its the standard compression for just about everyhting except warez...
which tends to use rar and ACEs..

sigh I love how everyone automatically blames FP for everything..

I have been an FP customer for 2 years.. and its a great service if you like to dload mods patches and betas...always fast and no waiting..

just buy or download the trail for winzip it never ever time bombs.. it just comes up with a register me popup that you can go around every time...

the thing is fileplanet knew a ton of people would subscribe to fileplanet for the sole purpose of downloading the STF

they have a huge banner that says NO WAIT downloads and what did they do make people wait
for 12-24 hours or even more for a service they paid
when th ST only lasts 5-7 days waiting a whole day is a whole lot

They cannot claim "ignorance" because they know how many people participated in the last stress test

they are the ones that advertise a NO WAITING EVER to their subscribers
while even after I became a subscriber I had to wait 8 hours just for them let me download WoW


the last game I played for any significant amount of time was Warcraft : TFT
so no I don't download alot of patches or betas and I paid money just to play WoW early

not to mention the hide their 7.95 a month plan for the World of Warcraft ST so you have to search for it because they knew people would sign up Just for the Stress test instead of only appearing to have an option to sign up for $15

I will never use Fileplanet again so yes I feel very ripped off


As for the Zip problem that is all I read in the Beta forums so I have no idea if that was true or not

as for your comment on ZIP , RAR is a superior compression scheme , not to mention the program is a lot better that is why I use it

and WINRAR does unzip so the fact that you had to use Winzip tells me at least Blizzard if not Fileplanet made a deal with Winzip

because WinRar will extract any other Zip file

I hate winrar... i have it and ACE and i dont use them.. i use Winzip9.0 at least 100x every day..
it opens faster and decompresses faster for me... instead of openeing a whole program winzip stays resident and allows me to unzip on the fly...

as for waiting on FP.. this I agree with...
I was very upset that i had to wait 8 hours to dload my beta...
as the Bliz BT was absolutly crawling this time...
FP shoulda been 100x as fast so I tried to use it...
unfortunatly I was able to dload faster through BT than waiting for my account to be flagged.

so I Agree there... but then again this is not FPs problem.. they had no idea how much intrest there is in the open beta.. nor did they compensate for the peeps that are sharing accounts in order to dload through fileplanet instead of using the crappy BT downloader...
I know half my guild is sharing 1 FP account that was flagged before the others to dload the client so we can play faster...
If my guild is doing this Im sure 100000s of other peeps have figured they can do this out as well..
keeping the FP servers 100% jammed...

this is Blizzards fault..
if they had a regular patcher like other games instead of crappy ass Bittorrent.. peeps wouldnt be forced to hammer FP.
We the internal beta testers have been askign for them toc hange that since day 1...
they arnt goign to bucge saying that the average patch in final is going to be under 100mb and BT works fine in that aspect =/


they knew how much interest was generated because

1. they knew how many participated in the last stress test
2. they wanted a lot of people to sign up just for the beta and knew they would because they removed any sign of a lesser subscription fee making it seem like you had to sign up for 3 months

obviously they paid blizzard to have exclusive rights to this because otherwise they would let anyone host the file and blizz would distribute the keys themselves if it was about bandwidth

the fact that they only let fileplanet have keys suggests this

and this is fine but don't advertise NO WAITING ever if you are not 100% sure that you can handle this
because by day 3 there are still people who are waiting 12+ hours to get in

also winrar has shell extensions as well so you never have to open the program just right click on any ZIP, RAR , ACE, TAR etc. and click extract and it does it a helluva lot faster than winzip on my machine

winzip is slower (at compressing and decompressing) and not as efficient (less compression albeit not that much of a difference)

My copy of winrar must be very old.. casue even when its set for eveyrthing every time i open a zip it opens the entire win rar program... takes alot of time.. and is very annowying when I deal with on the average 2-3 hundred zip files at any given time..

I still prefer winzip to everything else out there.. the only 1 i actually would pay the 9 bucks to use...

and btw... the first stress test was nothing like this... this isnt even close...
there is NO way in hell they could have anticipated this....
every server bliz has brought up is showing heavy load...
in the newbie areas up to L20 every single mob is dead and there are peeps camping thier pops...
you cannot even quest right now....
its insane...
There are prolly 30k peeps in right now across the servers.... they are literally jam packed...

Bliz needs to mega set the newbie mob pops at least for release week..
or there are gonna be alot of angry new peeps....

 

Hadsus

Golden Member
Aug 14, 2003
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Thanks for the replies....think I already uninstalled winzip so I'll search out 7 zip. As far as ignoring the Winzip expiration warnings, if I remember correctly, the fricken program just stopped working. Too much hoop jumping in my opinion.....using the right zip program and being pushed into using FilePlanet.

Speaking of FilePlanet, I broke down and signed up for a month for $7.90 yesterday. Of course, the WoW beta had something to do with it but I also just wanted to see if the subscription was worthwhile. After signing up, I DL'd Men of Valor....it was the fastest DL I've seen on my machine (300 mps) and just before I went to bed, I DL'd the WoW at the same fast speeds. So, it's been pretty cool so far.
 

CVSiN

Diamond Member
Jul 19, 2004
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Ya normally i love my FP account...
I get all my patches and mods and everything from there...
very very fast
 

ggnl

Diamond Member
Jul 2, 2004
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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Ya normally i love my FP account...
I get all my patches and mods and everything from there...
very very fast

I just signed up to FP for tthe stress test, but I think I'll keep it. I've downloaded enough stuff as a free member to justify the $5/month.

On a side note, the FP charge disappeared from my bank statement yesterday and hasn't come back yet. Maybe I got lucky.
 

mchammer187

Diamond Member
Nov 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: mchammer187
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: mchammer187
Originally posted by: CVSiN
This is not Fileplanets problem..
this is packaged by blizzard...
we had this problem since alpha...
why wont you people just follow the directions.. common wtf.. everyone should have Winzip by now...
its the standard compression for just about everyhting except warez...
which tends to use rar and ACEs..

sigh I love how everyone automatically blames FP for everything..

I have been an FP customer for 2 years.. and its a great service if you like to dload mods patches and betas...always fast and no waiting..

just buy or download the trail for winzip it never ever time bombs.. it just comes up with a register me popup that you can go around every time...

the thing is fileplanet knew a ton of people would subscribe to fileplanet for the sole purpose of downloading the STF

they have a huge banner that says NO WAIT downloads and what did they do make people wait
for 12-24 hours or even more for a service they paid
when th ST only lasts 5-7 days waiting a whole day is a whole lot

They cannot claim "ignorance" because they know how many people participated in the last stress test

they are the ones that advertise a NO WAITING EVER to their subscribers
while even after I became a subscriber I had to wait 8 hours just for them let me download WoW


the last game I played for any significant amount of time was Warcraft : TFT
so no I don't download alot of patches or betas and I paid money just to play WoW early

not to mention the hide their 7.95 a month plan for the World of Warcraft ST so you have to search for it because they knew people would sign up Just for the Stress test instead of only appearing to have an option to sign up for $15

I will never use Fileplanet again so yes I feel very ripped off


As for the Zip problem that is all I read in the Beta forums so I have no idea if that was true or not

as for your comment on ZIP , RAR is a superior compression scheme , not to mention the program is a lot better that is why I use it

and WINRAR does unzip so the fact that you had to use Winzip tells me at least Blizzard if not Fileplanet made a deal with Winzip

because WinRar will extract any other Zip file

I hate winrar... i have it and ACE and i dont use them.. i use Winzip9.0 at least 100x every day..
it opens faster and decompresses faster for me... instead of openeing a whole program winzip stays resident and allows me to unzip on the fly...

as for waiting on FP.. this I agree with...
I was very upset that i had to wait 8 hours to dload my beta...
as the Bliz BT was absolutly crawling this time...
FP shoulda been 100x as fast so I tried to use it...
unfortunatly I was able to dload faster through BT than waiting for my account to be flagged.

so I Agree there... but then again this is not FPs problem.. they had no idea how much intrest there is in the open beta.. nor did they compensate for the peeps that are sharing accounts in order to dload through fileplanet instead of using the crappy BT downloader...
I know half my guild is sharing 1 FP account that was flagged before the others to dload the client so we can play faster...
If my guild is doing this Im sure 100000s of other peeps have figured they can do this out as well..
keeping the FP servers 100% jammed...

this is Blizzards fault..
if they had a regular patcher like other games instead of crappy ass Bittorrent.. peeps wouldnt be forced to hammer FP.
We the internal beta testers have been askign for them toc hange that since day 1...
they arnt goign to bucge saying that the average patch in final is going to be under 100mb and BT works fine in that aspect =/


they knew how much interest was generated because

1. they knew how many participated in the last stress test
2. they wanted a lot of people to sign up just for the beta and knew they would because they removed any sign of a lesser subscription fee making it seem like you had to sign up for 3 months

obviously they paid blizzard to have exclusive rights to this because otherwise they would let anyone host the file and blizz would distribute the keys themselves if it was about bandwidth

the fact that they only let fileplanet have keys suggests this

and this is fine but don't advertise NO WAITING ever if you are not 100% sure that you can handle this
because by day 3 there are still people who are waiting 12+ hours to get in

also winrar has shell extensions as well so you never have to open the program just right click on any ZIP, RAR , ACE, TAR etc. and click extract and it does it a helluva lot faster than winzip on my machine

winzip is slower (at compressing and decompressing) and not as efficient (less compression albeit not that much of a difference)

My copy of winrar must be very old.. casue even when its set for eveyrthing every time i open a zip it opens the entire win rar program... takes alot of time.. and is very annowying when I deal with on the average 2-3 hundred zip files at any given time..

I still prefer winzip to everything else out there.. the only 1 i actually would pay the 9 bucks to use...

and btw... the first stress test was nothing like this... this isnt even close...
there is NO way in hell they could have anticipated this....
every server bliz has brought up is showing heavy load...
in the newbie areas up to L20 every single mob is dead and there are peeps camping thier pops...
you cannot even quest right now....
its insane...
There are prolly 30k peeps in right now across the servers.... they are literally jam packed...

Bliz needs to mega set the newbie mob pops at least for release week..
or there are gonna be alot of angry new peeps....


i was playing last night from 8-12 on PvP test server 9 (alliance) and had no such problems about the newbie zones
 

CVSiN

Diamond Member
Jul 19, 2004
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8-12 on what time zone..
thats a bit late for us working folks..

i played from 5-9cst and it was jam packed....
only got to level 6 becasue of it =/
all the servers I tried at that time were horrible...
we ended up on PVP4 and it was absolutly crammed..
not 1 mob or animal was alive...
liteally..you had to press your attack and tab non stop... the good part is so many peeps were doing it you could level off higher level creatures beacsue eveyrone was shooting spells at everyone elses mobs =P
 

mchammer187

Diamond Member
Nov 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: CVSiN
8-12 on what time zone..
thats a bit late for us working folks..

i played from 5-9cst and it was jam packed....
only got to level 6 becasue of it =/
all the servers I tried at that time were horrible...
we ended up on PVP4 and it was absolutly crammed..
not 1 mob or animal was alive...
liteally..you had to press your attack and tab non stop... the good part is so many peeps were doing it you could level off higher level creatures beacsue eveyrone was shooting spells at everyone elses mobs =P

i only got to lvl 6 as well but i am a complete newb to the game

I was playing 8-12 EST

i play that late because I work 10 hour days
 

Hadsus

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Aug 14, 2003
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I successfully re-installed Winzip 9.....unfortunately it reports that the WoW archive is 'invalid'. So off I go DLing it again. Wonder what happened......2.2 gig archive.
 

mchammer187

Diamond Member
Nov 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: Hadsus
I successfully re-installed Winzip 9.....unfortunately it reports that the WoW archive is 'invalid'. So off I go DLing it again. Wonder what happened......2.2 gig archive.

it should be 2.5
 

mchammer187

Diamond Member
Nov 26, 2000
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BTW anyone on AT going to be playing tonight

im on PVP test server 9

I was soloing but would rather play with a party and my friends are all waiting for OB
 

Hadsus

Golden Member
Aug 14, 2003
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I got the second DL.....yes the first one was too small for some reason. Install went well but good gawd, yes, the install takes forever. First impressions are that Blizzard's got a polished product. I made a kewl gnome mage.....pretty graphics. Graphics are a liability to immersiveness, though, since they are very cartoony. Still, it may be tough deciding between WoW and EQ2.
 

Glavinsolo

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1. Can I create a file planet account, receive key, and cancel?

2. Can I use the Open Beta dl from blizztorrent with the key I get?

3. Will that key work later on with open beta?
 

CVSiN

Diamond Member
Jul 19, 2004
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Originally posted by: Hadsus
I got the second DL.....yes the first one was too small for some reason. Install went well but good gawd, yes, the install takes forever. First impressions are that Blizzard's got a polished product. I made a kewl gnome mage.....pretty graphics. Graphics are a liability to immersiveness, though, since they are very cartoony. Still, it may be tough deciding between WoW and EQ2.

I love the grafics...
they are amazing
to me they are better fitting an rpg than EQ2s
1600x1280 with eveyrhting turned on this game is beautiful
 
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