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Xstatic1

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LATEST UPDATE: Dec 4, 2007:

LOS ANGELES - The TV industry braced Tuesday for what could become a long strike by writers, even as both sides returned to the bargaining table.

Leslie Moonves, chief executive officer of CBS Corp., told an investor conference in New York that he was hopeful, but ?not terribly optimistic.?

The two sides conceded there was likely to be ratings shortfalls if the five-week strike dragged on, Moonves said. Programming costs would fall as well, resulting in no significant financial impact to the network in the short to medium term, Moonves said.

Bargaining resumed in Los Angeles after a four-day recess, with a relatively scant $21 million separating contract proposals by studios and striking Hollywood writers.

The more telling figure involves the $20,000-plus that writers now earn for a single network rerun of a TV episode and the $250 the studios are offering for a year?s online reuse of an hourlong show. That represents the chasm between the old business order and burgeoning new media faced by negotiators as they try to end the strike, now in its fifth week.

The strike has shut down production on dozens of prime-time and late-night shows, sending a number of programs into reruns.

Still, Moonves said CBS viewers will be served.

?We are prepared to have a full schedule? in the spring, he said. ?We?re certainly not going to go dark.?

He said the schedule will include programs from Showtime, the network?s sister cable channel that offers daring fare including ?Weeds? and ?Dexter,? a serial-killer drama.

The shows will be edited for network use, a CBS spokesman said.

The walkout could soon affect the development of pilot episodes, which networks use to determine which series they will order for the next season. The process typically begins early in the year.

?If the strike is protracted, pilot season will be potentially ruined. Everything starts from the script,? said Matt Edelman, a film and TV producer who now is chief executive officer of a lifestyle Web site, PeopleJam Inc.

However, Marc Berman, an analyst for Mediaweek, noted that networks have been cutting back on pilots for several years to save money.

Last Thursday, before negotiations recessed, the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers said it was willing to offer $130 million in extra pay over the life of its proposed three-year deal, on top of the $1.3 billion already paid annually to writers.

The Writers Guild of America countered by saying the proposal only addressed advertising-supported programs streamed for free on the Web and jurisdiction over shows made for the Internet. It said the offer constituted a ?massive rollback.?

The writers said their plan, also presented Thursday, would cost producers $151 million over three years. Details of that plan were not publicly disclosed.

However, citing an unidentified person close to guild negotiators, the Hollywood Reporter trade publication said the union was proposing fixed compensation rates that also are graduated in increments tied to viewership.

David W. Rips, director of the media and entertainment practice at Deloitte Consulting, said there wasn?t enough information about the value of digital distribution to ?have a legitimate negotiation? on compensation.

He suggested the alliance offer was an attempt to shift the decision a few years into a better-informed future.

?I?m surprised producers offered a flat fee at all,? Rips said. ?I don?t think they would even be tacitly acknowledging that there?s any relationship between that payment and real revenue.?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22099747/
 

EvilYoda

Lifer
Apr 1, 2001
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Between my usual time spent at the movie theaters and in front of the TV during the winter...I'm going to have to make up for the strike with a whole lot of drinking.

curse those writers.

(Good luck to them and I hope they get something ironed out soon, but for their's sake, not the viewers.)
 

aplefka

Lifer
Feb 29, 2004
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Interesting update. Moonves can be one legit dude sometimes. He's got a great mind for the business.
 

MmmSkyscraper

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Jul 6, 2004
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Originally posted by: Xstatic1
Still, Moonves said CBS viewers will be served.

?We are prepared to have a full schedule? in the spring, he said. ?We?re certainly not going to go dark.?

He said the schedule will include programs from Showtime, the network?s sister cable channel that offers daring fare including ?Weeds? and ?Dexter,? a serial-killer drama.

The shows will be edited for network use, a CBS spokesman said.

FAIL :thumbsdown:
 

aplefka

Lifer
Feb 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper
Originally posted by: Xstatic1
Still, Moonves said CBS viewers will be served.

?We are prepared to have a full schedule? in the spring, he said. ?We?re certainly not going to go dark.?

He said the schedule will include programs from Showtime, the network?s sister cable channel that offers daring fare including ?Weeds? and ?Dexter,? a serial-killer drama.

The shows will be edited for network use, a CBS spokesman said.

FAIL :thumbsdown:

At $325,000 per FCC violation (potentially per station that airs violation) it's not worth it to them. If even 10 stations get fined on a single usage of the f-bomb that's over 3 million right there.
 

QueBert

Lifer
Jan 6, 2002
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Originally posted by: SludgeFactory
Originally posted by: Xstatic1
"Last Call" was the first late-night show to resume production since the strike began on Nov. 5. The walkout has also idled production on many scripted television series.
Should be business as usual for Carson Daly, I can't tell that he ever had any comedy writers to begin with on that god awful show.

Carson isn't a member of the union and doesn't NEED any help to pull off his late night show.

And by pull off, I mean give hand jobs to some execs at NBC in order to keep his show on.

Carson Daily makes Jimmy Kimmel look like Richard Pryor, and Jimmy ain't funny.

 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
Sep 21, 2002
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eh, i don't care if they run out.
so meh

and editing down cable shows for network.. ICK!!!
its just wrong
 

Xstatic1

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LATEST UPDATE: Dec 7, 2007:

LOS ANGELES (AP) ? Hollywood producers said negotiations with striking writers broke down Friday after four consecutive days of talks.

The Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers late announcement came after both sides traded barbs over the five-week strike that has sidelined many prime-time and late-night shows.

The alliance blamed the breakdown on what it called an ongoing union strategy to delay or derail talks.

The Writers Guild of America had no immediate comment.

In a letter sent to members and released earlier Friday, the Writers Guild of America accused the producers group of dragging its heels in putting new proposals on the table and cited possible schemes to sink the talks.

The alliance denied the allegations and claimed the union has failed to respond to its proposals regarding key issues of new-media compensation, instead diverting attention to the proposed unionization of reality TV and animation.

Now in its fifth week, the strike has shut down production on dozens of prime-time and late-night shows, sending a number of programs into reruns, and it's begun to affect film production plans.

Residuals and jurisdiction for online streaming of TV shows and movies, along with other digital distribution, have been seen as the heart of the contract dispute.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22153232/
 

Jeff7

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Jan 4, 2001
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The Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers late announcement came after both sides traded barbs over the five-week strike that has sidelined many prime-time and late-night shows.
Who else thinks that there's going to be a mini-series or reality show about this superbly dramatic, dire situation?
 

GundamW

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Feb 3, 2000
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Damn.
I need my Heroes, Daily Show, and Colbert Report!!!
On the flip side, I can now finish the pile of games.
 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
Sep 21, 2002
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yea those shows rock.
but i give most of the credit to the writers.
network suits seem to randomly cancel good shows and keep cr@p on half the time.
chimp throwing darts at a board for decision making would probably do as well.
 

nageov3t

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Feb 18, 2004
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Originally posted by: GundamW
Damn.
I need my Heroes, Daily Show, and Colbert Report!!!
On the flip side, I can now finish the pile of games.

seriously!

my WoW guildmates have commented that I seem to be in a pissy mood lately... it's totally the lack of Daily Show / Colbert report in my life

we raid when TDS/CR are on, so I'm usually in a great mood because I'm laughing at the shows while raiding.
 

Xstatic1

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LATEST UPDATE: Dec 11, 2007:

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - U.S. television viewers looking to settle back into such favorite series as "Desperate Housewives," "CSI" and "The Office" will be in for a rude awakening after the Christmas and New Year's holidays.

Fresh episodes of those shows and many others will be replaced by a glut of reality programs and reruns headed to the major networks in January as the Hollywood writers strike begins to affect prime time after first hitting late-night TV.

The writers' walkout, now in its sixth week with no settlement in sight, has halted production on 50 to 60 scripted comedies and dramas, and the supply of new episodes is about to run dry. Broadcasters are getting through December with traditional Christmas-season specials, TV movies and sports.

The labor clash between major studios and writers could hardly come at a worse time for networks. Prime-time ratings are already down sharply this season compared to a year ago.

"The networks are really going to feel the heat when the new year begins," said Marc Berman, senior editor for the trade publication Media Week. "And it's going to be a completely different experience for the viewer."

The new wave of reality TV shows includes weekend warrior contest "American Gladiators" from NBC, philanthropic competition "Oprah's Big Give" on ABC; and two Fox entries -- the female-domination experiment "When Women Rule the World," and "The Moment of Truth," which hooks contestants to a lie detector and challenges them to answer personal questions.

Network executives say some of these shows were planned before the strike, which began on November 5. But many were fast-tracked in anticipation of a protracted labor dispute.

CBS, for example, has ordered a first-ever winter edition of its summer reality staple "Big Brother" to run three nights a week starting in February.

"Survivor," the CBS castaway competition that helped ignite the reality craze in 2000, returns for a 16th installment along with last summer's Drew Carey-hosted quiz show, "Power of 10."

CBS Corp. chief Leslie Moonves told an investor conference last week that ratings for his network would likely fall this winter. But because reality shows are cheap to make, he added that "costs will be down considerably."

CBS also is relying on reruns of its biggest scripted hits, notably detective shows like "CSI," "Cold Case" and "Criminal Minds" that manage to draw higher ratings in repeats than more highly serialized dramas on other networks.

NBC has plenty of reality fare on tap too, including the fatherhood challenge "My Dad is Better than Your Dad," a celebrity edition of Donald Trump's "The Apprentice," and "Baby Borrowers," a British import that simulates the rigors of parenthood for five teen-age couples.

Fox seems best positioned to weather the strike thanks mostly to the annual return of its smash hit talent contest "American Idol," which debuts its seventh season in January.

Fox also has several new scripted shows it plans to launch in early 2008, including the highly anticipated sci-fi thriller "Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles," a spinoff of the blockbuster movie series that starred Arnold Schwarzenegger.

ABC, a unit of the Walt Disney Co., still has about eight episodes of its hit drama "Lost" to bring back starting in February. Its reality offerings include a new installment of "Dancing with the Stars," plus two new dance contests and the return of "The Bachelor," "Supernanny" and "Wife Swap."

http://www.reuters.com/article...tualBrandChannel=10002
 

mobobuff

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The new wave of reality TV shows includes weekend warrior contest "American Gladiators" from NBC, philanthropic competition "Oprah's Big Give" on ABC; and two Fox entries -- the female-domination experiment "When Women Rule the World," and "The Moment of Truth," which hooks contestants to a lie detector and challenges them to answer personal questions.

Oh my god. Are 8th graders in charge of reality television concepts?
 

Xstatic1

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LATEST UPDATE: Dec 13, 2007:

**EARLIER TODAY**

LOS ANGELES - Hollywood directors said Thursday they will hold off on contract negotiations with studios for now, but want to begin talks after New Year?s Day.

The decision could put added pressure on striking Hollywood writers to reach a new contract with studios and end their six-week walkout, which directors say is having a dire effect in Hollywood.

**BREAKING NEWS**


Union officials representing striking Hollywood writers said Thursday they have filed an unfair labor practices complaint claiming studios violated federal law by breaking off negotiations.

The Writers Guild of America demanded in a statement that the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers return to the bargaining so the six-week strike can be ended and thousands of workers idled by the walkout can return to their jobs.

Negotiations broke off Dec. 7 when the alliance refused to bargain further unless the union dropped a half dozen proposals that included the authority to unionize writers on reality shows and animation projects.

The producers alliance did not immediately respond to an e-mail seeking comment.

The complaint was filed with the National Labor Relations Board, which did not immediately return a call to its Los Angeles office.

?It is a clear violation of federal law for the AMPTP to issue an ultimatum and break off negotiations if we fail to cave to their illegal demands,? the guild said in a statement. ?We are in the midst of the holiday season, with thousands of our members and the membership of other unions out of work.?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22246628/
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Union officials representing striking Hollywood writers said Thursday they have filed an unfair labor practices complaint claiming studios violated federal law by breaking off negotiations.

The Writers Guild of America demanded in a statement that the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers return to the bargaining so the six-week strike can be ended and thousands of workers idled by the walkout can return to their jobs.

It was the unions that wanted to strike, so why should they be complaining that their employers do not wish to cave to their demands? Seriously, someone explain this to me.
 

KK

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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Union officials representing striking Hollywood writers said Thursday they have filed an unfair labor practices complaint claiming studios violated federal law by breaking off negotiations.

The Writers Guild of America demanded in a statement that the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers return to the bargaining so the six-week strike can be ended and thousands of workers idled by the walkout can return to their jobs.

It was the unions that wanted to strike, so why should they be complaining that their employers do not wish to cave to their demands? Seriously, someone explain this to me.

Don't you know this already? Anything the union does is good, and anything a corporation does is bad.
 

FallenHero

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Jan 2, 2006
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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Union officials representing striking Hollywood writers said Thursday they have filed an unfair labor practices complaint claiming studios violated federal law by breaking off negotiations.

The Writers Guild of America demanded in a statement that the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers return to the bargaining so the six-week strike can be ended and thousands of workers idled by the walkout can return to their jobs.

It was the unions that wanted to strike, so why should they be complaining that their employers do not wish to cave to their demands? Seriously, someone explain this to me.

Its grandstanding and will more than likely just bring in a federal mediator.
 

destrekor

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any word for Lost? Last I heard, it was either 8 or 14 episodes written.

I want all 16 episodes this season, but that sounds not so likely anymore. However, I guess its good that Lost has a set end and a set number of episodes left. Next season, they can simply work the previously planned episodes that were never written for this season into the next season, and then be on their merry way.
 

Xstatic1

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LATEST UPDATE: Dec 14, 2007:

NBC early next week is expected to announce that the Tonight Show with Jay Leno and Late Night with Conan O'Brien will return with new episodes in early January, nearly nine weeks after a writers strike shut down all late-night talk shows. CBS' David Letterman and Craig Ferguson are also mulling a January comeback but have not firmed up plans, USA TODAY's Gary Levin reports. Leno and O'Brien will return without the dozen or so writers on their staffs, and will dispense with monologues, opting for improvised material and more celebrity guests. NBC's Carson Daly returned two weeks ago and met with picketers; striking writers also heckled him from the studio audience.


ABC unveiled its post-holiday strike schedule late Friday, USA TODAY's Gary Levin reports. ABC is the last of the major networks to firm up its replacement-series plans. Lost will return for an eight-episode fourth season on a new night, Thursdays at 9 ET/PT, starting Jan. 31, replacing Grey's Anatomy, and will be followed by new legal drama Eli Stone. Cashmere Mafia, a new drama about Manhattan women starring Lucy Liu, is due Wednesday at 10 on Jan. 9, following a special preview on Jan. 3. And According to Jim and Carpoolers rejoin the schedule Tuesdays at 9 and 9:30 as of Jan. 8. Reality series include Oprah's Big Give, (Sunday at 9 ET/PT, starting March 2), Dance Wars: Bruno vs. Carrie Ann, a Dancing with the Stars spinoff (Mondays at 8, Jan. 7); prank show Just for Laughs (Tuesdays at 8, Jan. 1), and Wife Swap and Supernanny (Wednesday at 8 and 9, Jan. 2).

http://blogs.usatoday.com/entertainment/
 

Xstatic1

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Originally posted by: destrekor
any word for Lost? Last I heard, it was either 8 or 14 episodes written.

I want all 16 episodes this season, but that sounds not so likely anymore. However, I guess its good that Lost has a set end and a set number of episodes left. Next season, they can simply work the previously planned episodes that were never written for this season into the next season, and then be on their merry way.

"Lost will return for an eight-episode fourth season on a new night, Thursdays at 9 ET/PT, starting Jan. 31, replacing Grey's Anatomy, and will be followed by new legal drama Eli Stone."
 
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