Wrong place wrong time....

[element]

To pull support for the war. It's not wrong war wrong place wrong time kerry fans.

What IS wrong, is pulling support for the war at this juncture. Where where you chickensh!ts before the war started? Now is the time to support the president and support our troops in Iraq not play monday morning quarterback.

 

[sillymofo]

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[Gravity]

Not sure what you mean by your post. ARe you referring to Kerry's plan to remove troops in as little as 6 months?

 

[rickn]

Originally posted by: element
To pull support for the war. It's not wrong war wrong place wrong time kerry fans.

What IS wrong, is pulling support for the war at this juncture. Where where you chickensh!ts before the war started? Now is the time to support the president and support our troops in Iraq not play monday morning quarterback.

sure, americans support our president, but there is no obligation to support Bush as Commander-n-Chief for longer than 4yrs. Just because we are at war, doesn't guarantee Bush 2 terms. You can keep telling yourself it does, but just because others don't feel that way does not make them any less patriotic or unamerican. The fact that voters can think for themselves, makes them all the more American.

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: Gravity
Not sure what you mean by your post. ARe you referring to Kerry's plan to remove troops in as little as 6 months?

I believe he stated that he'd begin to remove the troops in as early as 6 months. See the difference?

 

[PatboyX]

im as confused as everyone else. my interpretation was close to gravity's but i didnt see the bit about 6 months.
however, you do raise an interesting point: where were we before the war?
we were not allowed to speak out. perhaps you dont remember the sort of "anti-american" label and scapegoating (see: dixie chicks) that happened when anyone questioned the war. the american press has been under high scrutiny by press abroad for the lack of dissent (or at the very least questioing of the evidence produced) before the conflict.
i think it was day to day that had an interesting piece about that today on NPR

 

[Gravity]

Originally posted by: Gaard

Originally posted by: Gravity
Not sure what you mean by your post. ARe you referring to Kerry's plan to remove troops in as little as 6 months?

I believe he stated that he'd begin to remove the troops in as early as 6 months. See the difference?

Yes, I see and understand the difference. How consequential is it? If he started today he couldn't have them all out in 6 month. I think there are several division there and they just don't all come home on the next plane.

It concerns me that he's less interested in the long term stability of Iraq and the benefit that the region will experience if Iraq becomes a permenant democracy.

 

[element]

I don't know whay everyone is confused I stateed my point in plain english and no it has nothing to do with Kerry's plan for 6 months although I'd hardly call it a plan to say 6 months, without details on how but they have time limits in a debate do that's fine.

What I mean is this is the wrong time to pull support for our troops. dammit I feel like I'm repeating myself no wonder people say Bush keeps repeating himself it's probably cause you numskulls just don't get it!

 

[dahunan]

So people aren't allowed to support the troops but disagree with the war?

Before the war ever started there were marches by 100,000s of people all over America telling George not to go..

 

[BarneyFife]

Originally posted by: element
To pull support for the war. It's not wrong war wrong place wrong time kerry fans.

What IS wrong, is pulling support for the war at this juncture. Where where you chickensh!ts before the war started? Now is the time to support the president and support our troops in Iraq not play monday morning quarterback.

You must have missed the massive anti-war rallies in this country and around the world.

 

[digiram]

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You must have missed the massive anti-war rallies in this country and around the world.
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he watches too much faux news

 

[element]

Originally posted by: dahunan
So people aren't allowed to support the troops but disagree with the war?

Before the war ever started there were marches by 100,000s of people all over America telling George not to go..

How can you support the troops while saying what they are doing is wrong? That's not supporting what they are doing over there.

Marches smarches, it accomplished nothing. But yeah at least it was something, an effort, however useless it was, but what i mean is , and here I am repeating myself yet again that Now is not the time to pull support for what the troops are working on in Iraq

Besides how is Iraq going wrong? Do you think we were wrong to remove Saddam? Do you think we are wrong to hepl the iraqis rebuild and form a democracy? The only thing "wrong" in Iraq is that there are too many effin terrorists. Bout time we got rid of them.

 

[nageov3t]

critizing the president and the war itself doesn't mean that you're not supporting the troops.

the idea that we should turn a blind eye to what's wrong with the situation is rediculous.

 

[element]

Originally posted by: loki8481
critizing the president and the war itself doesn't mean that you're not supporting the troops.

the idea that we should turn a blind eye to what's wrong with the situation is rediculous.

The only one turning a blind eye here is you, to my questions posted in my previous post. I'm not at all surprised of course, seeing as you have no answers, just argumentative bullsh!t.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: element

Originally posted by: loki8481
critizing the president and the war itself doesn't mean that you're not supporting the troops.

the idea that we should turn a blind eye to what's wrong with the situation is rediculous.

The only one turning a blind eye here is you, to my questions posted in my previous post. I'm not at all surprised of course, seeing as you have no answers, just argumentative bullsh!t.

what's the alternative? we blindly support a president that we disagree with, just for fear of damaging morale?

 

[rickn]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: element

Originally posted by: loki8481
critizing the president and the war itself doesn't mean that you're not supporting the troops.

the idea that we should turn a blind eye to what's wrong with the situation is rediculous.

The only one turning a blind eye here is you, to my questions posted in my previous post. I'm not at all surprised of course, seeing as you have no answers, just argumentative bullsh!t.

what's the alternative? we blindly support a president that we disagree with, just for fear of damaging morale?

I don't see how their morale could possibly get any worse, considering the shithole they're over working in right now. How many morale boosting pep talks has Bush given to the soldiers over there? I don't even recall that he's stepped foot in Iraq yet. Maybe he went to Baghdad, I don't even remember

 

[BarneyFife]

Originally posted by: rickn

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: element

Originally posted by: loki8481
critizing the president and the war itself doesn't mean that you're not supporting the troops.

the idea that we should turn a blind eye to what's wrong with the situation is rediculous.

The only one turning a blind eye here is you, to my questions posted in my previous post. I'm not at all surprised of course, seeing as you have no answers, just argumentative bullsh!t.

what's the alternative? we blindly support a president that we disagree with, just for fear of damaging morale?

I don't see how their morale could possibly get any worse, considering the shithole they're over working in right now. How many morale boosting pep talks has Bush given to the soldiers over there? I don't even recall that he's stepped foot in Iraq yet. Maybe he went to Baghdad, I don't even remember

I think he went last Christmas or Thanksgiving.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: element
To pull support for the war. It's not wrong war wrong place wrong time kerry fans.

What IS wrong, is pulling support for the war at this juncture. Where where you chickensh!ts before the war started? Now is the time to support the president and support our troops in Iraq not play monday morning quarterback.

You are taking 2 comments out of context and placing them as if they were connected.

"wrong place wrong time"----To start a war in Iraq. Notice, this is past tense, it concerns Bush's error in going to War with Iraq and has nothing too do with the Policy of how to leave Iraq.

"6 months"---Kerry has stated that if his plan works, Troops will begin to be pulled out in 6 months. Also note that his plan calls for a reduction and not a total pullout.

As already stated, the "chickensh1ts" have been speaking out the whole time. I and many others here were against this War almost a year before it started!

 

[gutharius]

Originally posted by: element
How can you support the troops while saying what they are doing is wrong? That's not supporting what they are doing over there.

Marches smarches, it accomplished nothing. But yeah at least it was something, an effort, however useless it was, but what i mean is , and here I am repeating myself yet again that Now is not the time to pull support for what the troops are working on in Iraq

Besides how is Iraq going wrong? Do you think we were wrong to remove Saddam? Do you think we are wrong to hepl the iraqis rebuild and form a democracy? The only thing "wrong" in Iraq is that there are too many effin terrorists. Bout time we got rid of them.

So your saying what happened in Al Ghraib Prison was better than leaving Saddam in power? Your saying the hundreds of Iraqi mean, women, and CHILDREN who die each day because we are there pushing our ideology on their culture makes it right??? I am willing to bet, since the US invaded Iraq more iraqis have died and have been dehumanized by the US's brazen and deplorable crusade to "westernize" Iraq than under the rule of Saddam Hussein!

And after all your defending a war, and a president, that has been justified by "this is the man [Saddam Hussein] who tried to kill my dad." - George W Bush Jr.

So go back to your hole neocon where you belong!

 

[arsbanned]

The only one turning a blind eye here is you, to my questions posted in my previous post. I'm not at all surprised of course, seeing as you have no answers, just argumentative bullsh!t.

Speaking of argumentative bullsh!t....

 

[joshw10]

Of course, what you mean by "pulling support for the troops" means not re-electing Bush. Did you think of that all by yourself or did Bush hammer it into your skull at the debate last night, where one of his main themes was "if you dont vote for me, what will the troops think??". The troops already know they went to "defend America", as is their job, because Saddam had WMD. Well we know how that turned out. It will be interesting to see how the soldiers in Iraq and their families vote in this election.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

If there's been a dumber thread posted this week than this one, I surely haven't seen it.

 

[fjord]

Originally posted by: element
To pull support for the war. It's not wrong war wrong place wrong time kerry fans.

What IS wrong, is pulling support for the war at this juncture. Where where you chickensh!ts before the war started? Now is the time to support the president and support our troops in Iraq not play monday morning quarterback.

Where were you when Bush and his hatchet staff were lying, about going to war?

Where were you when Bush and his hatchet staff were misleading, misinforming, and ouright fabricating evidence to support going to war with Iraq?

Where were you when the Bush administartion was/and is raping the truth, the constitution and America?

Why aren't you denouncing the rampant corruption (moral and fiscal) in the Bush administration?

Bush screwed-up. Bush is corrupt.

I will not reward him with my vote.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: DonVito
If there's been a dumber thread posted this week than this one, I surely haven't seen it.

Yes you did


CsG

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: DonVito
If there's been a dumber thread posted this week than this one, I surely haven't seen it.

Yes you did


CsG

Touche - that is in fact MUCH dumber, so in this week's stupid thread competition, a liberal, if that's what BarneyFife is, wins hands-down. This thread is a strong second, but poses no serious competition to BF's.