WTF is up with NVIDIA?

[cheezy321]

I own a dell xps M1330. I bought it back in March, and just 2 weeks ago it crapped out on me. Nothing would show up on the monitor and I couldnt get to windows at all. I had to get an entirely new motherboard replaced on the 1330, and the technician told me it was the Nvidia GPU on the computer that gets too hot then burns out.

That was 2 weeks ago, and my 1330 is still running SO DAMN HOT. I have a feeling its going to burn out again pretty quickly.

Then today I read this:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2332325,00.asp

What is wrong with NVIDIA? Why are all of their chips so defective?

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Considering this is a "video" issue, I'm moving it to the Video Cards & Graphics forum.

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[40Hands]

Wrong forum and you're jumping to quite the conclusion saying ALL of their chips are defective.

 

[effowe]

Why don't you throw some AS5 / new heatsink on that chip? Not defending their chips, and I know you shouldn't have to do this, but it would probably solve your problem in the meantime.

 

[TuxDave]

Originally posted by: effowe
Why don't you throw some AS5 / new heatsink on that chip? Not defending their chips, and I know you shouldn't have to do this, but it would probably solve your problem in the meantime.

I can see AS5 but replacing a notebook heatsink (+ whatever else they have attached to it) seems to be a whole lot of work.

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: cheezy321
I own a dell xps M1330. I bought it back in March, and just 2 weeks ago it crapped out on me. Nothing would show up on the monitor and I couldnt get to windows at all. I had to get an entirely new motherboard replaced on the 1330, and the technician told me it was the Nvidia GPU on the computer that gets too hot then burns out.

That was 2 weeks ago, and my 1330 is still running SO DAMN HOT. I have a feeling its going to burn out again pretty quickly.

Then today I read this:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2332325,00.asp

What is wrong with NVIDIA? Why are all of their chips so defective?

They have bad chips, we have bad posters.

 

[Juddog]

1330 is the notebook chip right AFAIK.

If you install the generic Nvidia display drivers versus the manufacturer drivers, the chip will run hotter than the manufacturer drivers typically. The same thing happened with the ATI card I was using in my Dell XPS; using the default Dell drivers from their website, the card didn't run very fast but didn't get that hot either. Once I switched over to the Omega drivers, the games ran great but the chip started getting hot as hell.

 

[ViviTheMage]

It's not uncommon, they get a cookin.

 

[God Mode]

Sucks. My friend went through a bunch of shit with dell and his broken laptop with a 8800m chip.

 

[amdskip]

Laptop does not = gaming, if you want to game get a desktop

 

[cheezy321]

Originally posted by: amdskip
Laptop does not = gaming, if you want to game get a desktop

I never game on my laptop. All I do is surf the internet on it. And it busted quickly. Even the new chip is running so damn hot and all I am doing is surfing anandtech!

 

[God Mode]

Originally posted by: amdskip
Laptop does not = gaming, if you want to game get a desktop

Then why does dell and others sell gaming models $3000+ with some coming with higher specs than the average desktop?

I guess models that come with a 8800m and even dual 8800m with a dedicated physx card is meant to be used only for browsing the web?

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: amdskip
Laptop does not = gaming, if you want to game get a desktop

The XPS M series (M1330, M1530, M1730) are laptops designed for gaming. And while they do not replace a full rig they are a good temporary substitute.

 

[Brainonska511]

Originally posted by: TuxDave

Originally posted by: effowe
Why don't you throw some AS5 / new heatsink on that chip? Not defending their chips, and I know you shouldn't have to do this, but it would probably solve your problem in the meantime.

I can see AS5 but replacing a notebook heatsink (+ whatever else they have attached to it) seems to be a whole lot of work.

And it can also void your warranty as those are generally not considered "user replaceable parts"

As far as the overall issue with the 7xxx and 8xxx series of mobile chips, it was an issue with the strained silicon. A defect in the process results in the chips running hotter than they should.

 

[thescreensavers]

Originally posted by: TuxDave

Originally posted by: effowe
Why don't you throw some AS5 / new heatsink on that chip? Not defending their chips, and I know you shouldn't have to do this, but it would probably solve your problem in the meantime.

I can see AS5 but replacing a notebook heatsink (+ whatever else they have attached to it) seems to be a whole lot of work.

yea, like they make aftermarket heatsinks for laptops , correct me if I am wrong

 

[paulney]

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: amdskip
Laptop does not = gaming, if you want to game get a desktop

The XPS M series (M1330, M1530, M1730) are laptops designed for gaming. And while they do not replace a full rig they are a good temporary substitute.

1330 for gamin? I doubt it. It's a lightweight laptop, Dell's response to Air and the like. It's very suitable for multimedia, but I doubt it anyone seriously considers it a gaming laptop.

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: paulney

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: amdskip
Laptop does not = gaming, if you want to game get a desktop

The XPS M series (M1330, M1530, M1730) are laptops designed for gaming. And while they do not replace a full rig they are a good temporary substitute.

1330 for gamin? I doubt it. It's a lightweight laptop, Dell's response to Air and the like. It's very suitable for multimedia, but I doubt it anyone seriously considers it a gaming laptop.

It works well enough for MMOs and strategy games.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Originally posted by: paulney

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: amdskip
Laptop does not = gaming, if you want to game get a desktop

The XPS M series (M1330, M1530, M1730) are laptops designed for gaming. And while they do not replace a full rig they are a good temporary substitute.

1330 for gamin? I doubt it. It's a lightweight laptop, Dell's response to Air and the like. It's very suitable for multimedia, but I doubt it anyone seriously considers it a gaming laptop.

Actually its just meant to be a nice laptop, its not aimed at gaming or anything in particular and I believe was out before the Macbook Air so its not in response to that.

 

[Ika]

Nvidia had defective 8400/8600 mobile chips. They tried to keep it hush hush but shit started falling out.

 

[JS80]

I think you mean WTF is down with NVIDIA

 

[alkemyst]

WTF is a Dell 'TECHNICIAN'

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: God Mode

Originally posted by: amdskip
Laptop does not = gaming, if you want to game get a desktop

Then why does dell and others sell gaming models $3000+ with some coming with higher specs than the average desktop?

I guess models that come with a 8800m and even dual 8800m with a dedicated physx card is meant to be used only for browsing the web?

Marketing. Laptops suck for gaming.

 

[BehindEnemyLines]

Try this:
Dell XPS M1330 - nVidia GeForce 8400M GS - Copper Mod

The mod reduced my temp by about 15-20C for the GPU.

 

[Newbian]

The only problem is by doing this kind of stuff it will ruin your warranty in most cases.

 

[BehindEnemyLines]

Originally posted by: Newbian
The only problem is by doing this kind of stuff it will ruin your warranty in most cases.

This is true. However, the GPU has a very thick thermal pad that can be easily lifted up. You can put it back later on the GPU if needed without any sign of tampering.

I heard (not verified) Dell gave every M1330 owners a 1 year extension if the motherboard dies due to GPU overheat. Dell also released BIOS A12 which turns the fan on at a lower threshold (low speed) and also for longer duration.

 

[Zebo]

"Why are all of their chips so defective"

I think nVidia's janitors..err I mean sanitation specialists, are more successful than you'll be judging by your deductive reasoning abilities. I've never had a nV chip go out all highly overclocked and sometimes vmoded and thats all I buy.