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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Brackis
Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
Originally posted by: spanky
why does anything negative that remotely involves a black person become a racially offensive?

thats what i dont understand...i thought everyone was up in arms with a "naked women" on TV...i didnt know that it was a problem that she was white

YOU DON'T GET IT...it isn;t about her being white, it is about the male involved being an immoral lback football player.

Actually, I'm sort of wondering if it is about her being white... maybe the people crying about this don't like seeing a white woman with a black man.
 

spanky

Lifer
Jun 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: Brackis
Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
Originally posted by: spanky
why does anything negative that remotely involves a black person become a racially offensive?

thats what i dont understand...i thought everyone was up in arms with a "naked women" on TV...i didnt know that it was a problem that she was white

YOU DON'T GET IT...it isn;t about her being white, it is about the male involved being an immoral lback football player.

i don't understand why ppl are so quick to draw lines. u think the producers went into this thinking "hey lets make black football players look like immoral animals"?
 
Jul 12, 2001
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oh and I would probably be late to work if that woman was begging me for sex naked....so i dont know how thats racist of him to skip work
 

Brackis

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I am addressing Tony Dungy's comments, not the conservative christian FCC whistleblowers.
 

spanky

Lifer
Jun 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
oh and I would probably be late to work if that woman was begging me for sex naked....so i dont know how thats racist of him to skip work

hell yeah, i'd bang her in the morning too.

<-- not black
 

pyonir

Lifer
Dec 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: spanky
Originally posted by: Brackis
Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
Originally posted by: spanky
why does anything negative that remotely involves a black person become a racially offensive?

thats what i dont understand...i thought everyone was up in arms with a "naked women" on TV...i didnt know that it was a problem that she was white

YOU DON'T GET IT...it isn;t about her being white, it is about the male involved being an immoral lback football player.

i don't understand why ppl are so quick to draw lines. u think the producers went into this thinking "hey lets make black football players look like immoral animals"?

The producers were thinking "who is the most well known athlete in tonights game...TO. Everyone knows who TO is if they are tuning into a football game."
 

Kaervak

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Jul 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
oh and I would probably be late to work if that woman was begging me for sex naked....so i dont know how thats racist of him to skip work

Seems like common sense to me. Get laid or get plowed into by a bunch of 300lbs fatasses for 3-4 hours. Tough decision there.
 

Brackis

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Originally posted by: spanky


i don't understand why ppl are so quick to draw lines. u think the producers went into this thinking "hey lets make black football players look like immoral animals"?

NO, again please grasp the idea of what racism is. Racism is not intentional machination and malevolence towards an ethnic group, it is the acceptance of negative connotation that may or may not exist within a race of people.

Dungy is saying it is racist because the producer create what they thought could be a semi-plausible scenario in which they could show off a hot blonde woman. By choosing a football player they are therefore assuming football players, who are nearly all black, would be the most likely striation of our society to accept her advances.
 

spanky

Lifer
Jun 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: pyonir
Originally posted by: spanky
Originally posted by: Brackis
Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
Originally posted by: spanky
why does anything negative that remotely involves a black person become a racially offensive?

thats what i dont understand...i thought everyone was up in arms with a "naked women" on TV...i didnt know that it was a problem that she was white

YOU DON'T GET IT...it isn;t about her being white, it is about the male involved being an immoral lback football player.

i don't understand why ppl are so quick to draw lines. u think the producers went into this thinking "hey lets make black football players look like immoral animals"?

The producers were thinking "who is the most well known athlete in tonights game...TO. Everyone knows who TO is if they are tuning into a football game."

exactly. regardless of color... it's about using whoever was the most recognizable. TO was in that game. hypothetically speaking, if the giants were playing, shockey would have a very good chance to be in that role. or the dolphins... maybe zach thomas.
 

spanky

Lifer
Jun 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: Brackis
Originally posted by: spanky


i don't understand why ppl are so quick to draw lines. u think the producers went into this thinking "hey lets make black football players look like immoral animals"?

NO, again please grasp the idea of what racism is. Racism is not intentional machination and malevolence towards an ethnic group, it is the acceptance of negative connotation that may or may not exist within a race of people.

Dungy is saying it is racist because the producer create what they thought could be a semi-plausible scenario in which they could show off a hot blonde woman. By choosing a football player they are therefore assuming football players, who are nearly all black, would be the most likely striation of our society to accept her advances.

so it's monday night football... what are they gonna do? use a professional ping pong player?

whatever man. believe what you want. i'm not gonna change your mind, nor will you change mine. all i know is, you sound like al sharpton... twisting and turning and stretching and scraping... all for the "i'm black and oppressed" cause.
 

pyonir

Lifer
Dec 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: spanky
Originally posted by: Brackis
Originally posted by: spanky


i don't understand why ppl are so quick to draw lines. u think the producers went into this thinking "hey lets make black football players look like immoral animals"?

NO, again please grasp the idea of what racism is. Racism is not intentional machination and malevolence towards an ethnic group, it is the acceptance of negative connotation that may or may not exist within a race of people.

Dungy is saying it is racist because the producer create what they thought could be a semi-plausible scenario in which they could show off a hot blonde woman. By choosing a football player they are therefore assuming football players, who are nearly all black, would be the most likely striation of our society to accept her advances.

whatever man. believe what you want. i'm not gonna change your mind, nor will you change mine. all i know is, you sound like al sharpton.
no kidding. You can find a racism argument in nearly everything.

 
Jul 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: Brackis
Originally posted by: spanky


i don't understand why ppl are so quick to draw lines. u think the producers went into this thinking "hey lets make black football players look like immoral animals"?

NO, again please grasp the idea of what racism is. Racism is not intentional machination and malevolence towards an ethnic group, it is the acceptance of negative connotation that may or may not exist within a race of people.

Dungy is saying it is racist because the producer create what they thought could be a semi-plausible scenario in which they could show off a hot blonde woman. By choosing a football player they are therefore assuming football players, who are nearly all black, would be the most likely striation of our society to accept her advances.

" who are nearly all black"

67 percent of football are balc
 

Brackis

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Nov 14, 2004
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Here is a list of all of the Pro-Bowl players for 2004 in the NFL... please tell me how many are white.

NFC:
Offense
WR Randy Moss - Vikings (injured)
WR Laveranues Coles - Redskins (replacement)
WR Torry Holt - Rams
WR Terrell Owens - 49ers (injured)
WR Keenan McCardell - Bucs (replacement)
WR Anquan Boldin - Cardinals
OT Orlando Pace - Rams
OT Flozell Adams - Cowboys
OT Walter Jones - Seahawks
OG Larry Allen - Cowboys
OG LeCharles Bentley - Saints (injured)
OG Steve Hutchinson - Seahawks (replacement)
OG Marco Rivera - Packers
C Olin Kreutz - Bears (injured)
C Mike Flanagan - Packers (replacement)
C Matt Birk - Vikings
TE Alge Crumpler - Falcons
TE Jeremy Shockey - Giants (injured)
TE Bubba Franks - Giants (replacement)
QB Daunte Culpepper - Vikings
QB Donovan McNabb - Eagles (injured)
QB Marc Bulger - Rams (replacement)
QB Brett Favre - Packers (injured)
QB Matt Hasselbeck - Seahawks (replacement)
RB Deuce McAllister - Saints (injured)
RB Shaun Alexander - Seahawks (replacement)
RB Ahman Green - Packers
RB Stephen Davis - Panthers
FB Fred Beasley - 49ers
Defense
DE Michael Strahan - Giants
DE Leonard Little - Rams
DE Simeon Rice - Bucs (disciplinary reasons)
DE Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila - Packers (replacement)
DT Kris Jenkins - Panthers
DT La'Roi Glover - Cowboys
DT Warren Sapp - Bucs (injured)
DT Corey Simon - Eagles (replacement)
OLB Derrick Brooks - Bucs (illness in family)
OLB Dexter Coakley - Cowboys (replacement)
OLB Julian Peterson - 49ers
OLB LaVar Arrington - Redskins
ILB Brian Urlacher - Bears
ILB Keith Brooking - Falcons
CB Dre' Bly - Lions
CB Troy Vincent - Eagles
CB Champ Bailey - Redskins
SS Corey Chavous - Vikings
FS Aeneas Williams - Rams
FS Roy Williams - Cowboys


AFC:
WR Marvin Harrison - Colts
WR Chad Johnson - Bengals
WR Hines Ward - Steelers
WR Derrick Mason - Titans
OT Jonathan Ogden - Ravens
OT Willie Anderson - Bengals
OT Willie Roaf - Chiefs
OG Alan Faneca - Steelers
OG Will Shields - Chiefs
OG Ruben Brown - Bills
C Kevin Mawae - Jets
C Tom Nalen - Broncos
TE Tony Gonzalez - Chiefs
TE Todd Heap - Ravens
QB Peyton Manning - Colts
QB Steve McNair - Titans
QB Trent Green - Chiefs
RB Priest Holmes - Chiefs
RB Jamal Lewis - Ravens
RB Clinton Portis - Broncos
FB Tony Richardson - Chiefs
Defense
DE Adewale Ogunleye - Dolphins
DE Dwight Freeney - Colts
DE Shaun Ellis - Jets
DT Richard Seymour - Patriots
DT Marcus Stroud - Jags
DT Casey Hampton - Steelers
OLB Keith Bulluck - Titans
OLB Peter Boulware - Ravens (injured)
OLB Willie McGinest - Patriots (replacement)
OLB Takeo Spikes - Bills
ILB Ray Lewis - Ravens
ILB Zach Thomas - Dolphins
CB Chris McAlister - Ravens
CB Ty Law - Patriots
CB Patrick Surtain - Dolphins
SS Ed Reed - Ravens
FS Brock Marion - Dolphins
FS Jerome Woods - Chiefs
 
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Originally posted by: Brackis
Here is a list of all of the Pro-Bowl players for 2004 in the NFL... please tell me how many are white.

NFC:
Offense
WR Randy Moss - Vikings (injured)
WR Laveranues Coles - Redskins (replacement)
WR Torry Holt - Rams
WR Terrell Owens - 49ers (injured)
WR Keenan McCardell - Bucs (replacement)
WR Anquan Boldin - Cardinals
OT Orlando Pace - Rams
OT Flozell Adams - Cowboys
OT Walter Jones - Seahawks
OG Larry Allen - Cowboys
OG LeCharles Bentley - Saints (injured)
OG Steve Hutchinson - Seahawks (replacement)
OG Marco Rivera - Packers
C Olin Kreutz - Bears (injured)
C Mike Flanagan - Packers (replacement)
C Matt Birk - Vikings
TE Alge Crumpler - Falcons
TE Jeremy Shockey - Giants (injured)
TE Bubba Franks - Giants (replacement)
QB Daunte Culpepper - Vikings
QB Donovan McNabb - Eagles (injured)
QB Marc Bulger - Rams (replacement)
QB Brett Favre - Packers (injured)
QB Matt Hasselbeck - Seahawks (replacement)
RB Deuce McAllister - Saints (injured)
RB Shaun Alexander - Seahawks (replacement)
RB Ahman Green - Packers
RB Stephen Davis - Panthers
FB Fred Beasley - 49ers
Defense
DE Michael Strahan - Giants
DE Leonard Little - Rams
DE Simeon Rice - Bucs (disciplinary reasons)
DE Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila - Packers (replacement)
DT Kris Jenkins - Panthers
DT La'Roi Glover - Cowboys
DT Warren Sapp - Bucs (injured)
DT Corey Simon - Eagles (replacement)
OLB Derrick Brooks - Bucs (illness in family)
OLB Dexter Coakley - Cowboys (replacement)
OLB Julian Peterson - 49ers
OLB LaVar Arrington - Redskins
ILB Brian Urlacher - Bears
ILB Keith Brooking - Falcons
CB Dre' Bly - Lions
CB Troy Vincent - Eagles
CB Champ Bailey - Redskins
SS Corey Chavous - Vikings
FS Aeneas Williams - Rams
FS Roy Williams - Cowboys


AFC:
WR Marvin Harrison - Colts
WR Chad Johnson - Bengals
WR Hines Ward - Steelers
WR Derrick Mason - Titans
OT Jonathan Ogden - Ravens
OT Willie Anderson - Bengals
OT Willie Roaf - Chiefs
OG Alan Faneca - Steelers
OG Will Shields - Chiefs
OG Ruben Brown - Bills
C Kevin Mawae - Jets
C Tom Nalen - Broncos
TE Tony Gonzalez - Chiefs
TE Todd Heap - Ravens
QB Peyton Manning - Colts
QB Steve McNair - Titans
QB Trent Green - Chiefs
RB Priest Holmes - Chiefs
RB Jamal Lewis - Ravens
RB Clinton Portis - Broncos
FB Tony Richardson - Chiefs
Defense
DE Adewale Ogunleye - Dolphins
DE Dwight Freeney - Colts
DE Shaun Ellis - Jets
DT Richard Seymour - Patriots
DT Marcus Stroud - Jags
DT Casey Hampton - Steelers
OLB Keith Bulluck - Titans
OLB Peter Boulware - Ravens (injured)
OLB Willie McGinest - Patriots (replacement)
OLB Takeo Spikes - Bills
ILB Ray Lewis - Ravens
ILB Zach Thomas - Dolphins
CB Chris McAlister - Ravens
CB Ty Law - Patriots
CB Patrick Surtain - Dolphins
SS Ed Reed - Ravens
FS Brock Marion - Dolphins
FS Jerome Woods - Chiefs

what does that have to do with your statement that " who are nearly all black"...if "nearly all means 2/3's then yes, but 1/3 is not black

just because almost all the best players are black does not mean the league is almost all black

who i being racist now?
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
Originally posted by: Brackis
Here is a list of all of the Pro-Bowl players for 2004 in the NFL... please tell me how many are white.

NFC:
Offense
WR Randy Moss - Vikings (injured)
WR Laveranues Coles - Redskins (replacement)
WR Torry Holt - Rams
WR Terrell Owens - 49ers (injured)
WR Keenan McCardell - Bucs (replacement)
WR Anquan Boldin - Cardinals
OT Orlando Pace - Rams
OT Flozell Adams - Cowboys
OT Walter Jones - Seahawks
OG Larry Allen - Cowboys
OG LeCharles Bentley - Saints (injured)
OG Steve Hutchinson - Seahawks (replacement)
OG Marco Rivera - Packers
C Olin Kreutz - Bears (injured)
C Mike Flanagan - Packers (replacement)
C Matt Birk - Vikings
TE Alge Crumpler - Falcons
TE Jeremy Shockey - Giants (injured)
TE Bubba Franks - Giants (replacement)
QB Daunte Culpepper - Vikings
QB Donovan McNabb - Eagles (injured)
QB Marc Bulger - Rams (replacement)
QB Brett Favre - Packers (injured)
QB Matt Hasselbeck - Seahawks (replacement)
RB Deuce McAllister - Saints (injured)
RB Shaun Alexander - Seahawks (replacement)
RB Ahman Green - Packers
RB Stephen Davis - Panthers
FB Fred Beasley - 49ers
Defense
DE Michael Strahan - Giants
DE Leonard Little - Rams
DE Simeon Rice - Bucs (disciplinary reasons)
DE Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila - Packers (replacement)
DT Kris Jenkins - Panthers
DT La'Roi Glover - Cowboys
DT Warren Sapp - Bucs (injured)
DT Corey Simon - Eagles (replacement)
OLB Derrick Brooks - Bucs (illness in family)
OLB Dexter Coakley - Cowboys (replacement)
OLB Julian Peterson - 49ers
OLB LaVar Arrington - Redskins
ILB Brian Urlacher - Bears
ILB Keith Brooking - Falcons
CB Dre' Bly - Lions
CB Troy Vincent - Eagles
CB Champ Bailey - Redskins
SS Corey Chavous - Vikings
FS Aeneas Williams - Rams
FS Roy Williams - Cowboys


AFC:
WR Marvin Harrison - Colts
WR Chad Johnson - Bengals
WR Hines Ward - Steelers
WR Derrick Mason - Titans
OT Jonathan Ogden - Ravens
OT Willie Anderson - Bengals
OT Willie Roaf - Chiefs
OG Alan Faneca - Steelers
OG Will Shields - Chiefs
OG Ruben Brown - Bills
C Kevin Mawae - Jets
C Tom Nalen - Broncos
TE Tony Gonzalez - Chiefs
TE Todd Heap - Ravens
QB Peyton Manning - Colts
QB Steve McNair - Titans
QB Trent Green - Chiefs
RB Priest Holmes - Chiefs
RB Jamal Lewis - Ravens
RB Clinton Portis - Broncos
FB Tony Richardson - Chiefs
Defense
DE Adewale Ogunleye - Dolphins
DE Dwight Freeney - Colts
DE Shaun Ellis - Jets
DT Richard Seymour - Patriots
DT Marcus Stroud - Jags
DT Casey Hampton - Steelers
OLB Keith Bulluck - Titans
OLB Peter Boulware - Ravens (injured)
OLB Willie McGinest - Patriots (replacement)
OLB Takeo Spikes - Bills
ILB Ray Lewis - Ravens
ILB Zach Thomas - Dolphins
CB Chris McAlister - Ravens
CB Ty Law - Patriots
CB Patrick Surtain - Dolphins
SS Ed Reed - Ravens
FS Brock Marion - Dolphins
FS Jerome Woods - Chiefs

what does that have to do with your statement that " who are nearly all black"...if "nearly all means 2/3's then yes, but 1/3 is not black

just because almost all the best players are black does not mean the league is almost all black

who i being racist now?

ouch, i'm bringing this one back.
 
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