wtf, tony dungy?

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CanOWorms

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I don't think it was a big deal either, it was just a joke and I didn't even think that they were trying to stereotype anyone.
 

Brackis

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Yes I have seen the show, but it just doesn't click with me what is so funny. I can see why "Desperate Housewives" could be a popular show based on its complex suburbabn female drama, but what's so funny about some blonde throwing herself at a random football player?
 

Kev

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Originally posted by: Brackis
I just don't see what makes it "comedy" really

it's bad (as in unfunny) comedy, but it was done in jest. if you aren't a complete fvcking dolt it should be easy to realize that.
 

Kev

Lifer
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Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: Brackis
I can see where he was coming from.
It plays to the stereotype of black men as sexual predators who have sex with easy white women. It was the basis for the majority of the lynchings during the 20th century, when black males would be accused of making attempts of southern white females and consequencially be found beaten and dead soon thereafter.
It is a very valid point, please read Light in August by William Faulkner for further commentary/literary example.

Refer to this thread for more idiotic posts by this user.


He used the phrase "plebian retort" - how can you call him an idiot?
 

MuffD

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They're blowing this thing way out of proportion. Then this guy has to throw this race crap out there. Give me a freakin break!
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: Brackis
Yes I have seen the show, but it just doesn't click with me what is so funny. I can see why "Desperate Housewives" could be a popular show based on its complex suburbabn female drama, but what's so funny about some blonde throwing herself at a random football player?

Probably because the blonde throws herself at everyone on the show and they comment it on the show. It seems to me that it's a tie-in joke with the show.

I think this just has gone overboard. I guess since the Hispanic wife on DH is having an affair, that's stereotyping all Hispanic women as that? I guess it's stereotyping as blondes as being slutty?
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Brackis
Yes I have seen the show, but it just doesn't click with me what is so funny. I can see why "Desperate Housewives" could be a popular show based on its complex suburbabn female drama, but what's so funny about some blonde throwing herself at a random football player?

Probably because the blonde throws herself at everyone on the show and they comment it on the show. It seems to me that it's a tie-in joke with the show.

I think this just has gone overboard. I guess since the Hispanic wife on DH is having an affair, that's stereotyping all Hispanic women as that? I guess it's stereotyping as blondes as being slutty?

OMG SO DOES THAT MEAN MY NICARAGUAN GIRLFRIEND IS CHEATING ON ME?!?!?!

OH TEH NOES!!1!!!UNO!!:Q

 

Kev

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Brackis
Yes I have seen the show, but it just doesn't click with me what is so funny. I can see why "Desperate Housewives" could be a popular show based on its complex suburbabn female drama, but what's so funny about some blonde throwing herself at a random football player?

Apparently it needs to be spelled out for you. The woman was chasing after HIM. She was "desparate." Duh. He wasn't stalking her or coaxing her or anything. She just kept throwing herself at him. I don't see the racism here. Maybe you have to possess a pathetic victim mentality to find offense and oppression in every stupid little situation that involves race.
 

Brackis

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Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: Brackis
Yes I have seen the show, but it just doesn't click with me what is so funny. I can see why "Desperate Housewives" could be a popular show based on its complex suburbabn female drama, but what's so funny about some blonde throwing herself at a random football player?

Apparently it needs to be spelled out for you. The woman was chasing after HIM. She was "desparate." Duh. He wasn't stalking her or coaxing her or anything. She just kept throwing herself at him. I don't see the racism here. Maybe you have to possess a pathetic victim mentality to find offense and oppression in every stupid little situation that involves race.

Just because an easy blonde (another stereotype) throws herself at me doesn't mean I will go with it, but the fact that the player does, while blowing off his work, shows his lack of morality. Perhaps you should go read Faulkner's novel like I said, so that I don't have to spell it out for you.
 
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Originally posted by: Brackis
Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: Brackis
Yes I have seen the show, but it just doesn't click with me what is so funny. I can see why "Desperate Housewives" could be a popular show based on its complex suburbabn female drama, but what's so funny about some blonde throwing herself at a random football player?

Apparently it needs to be spelled out for you. The woman was chasing after HIM. She was "desparate." Duh. He wasn't stalking her or coaxing her or anything. She just kept throwing herself at him. I don't see the racism here. Maybe you have to possess a pathetic victim mentality to find offense and oppression in every stupid little situation that involves race.

Just because an easy blonde (another stereotype) throws herself at me doesn't mean I will go with it, but the fact that the player does, while blowing off his work, shows his lack of morality. Perhaps you should go read Faulkner's novel like I said, so that I don't have to spell it out for you.

like someone else said, it could have easily been Jeremy Shockey in the role of TO and it would have gone over the exact same way and if it can go over the exact same way if its a white player, how is it racist?
 

Kev

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Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
Originally posted by: Brackis
Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: Brackis
Yes I have seen the show, but it just doesn't click with me what is so funny. I can see why "Desperate Housewives" could be a popular show based on its complex suburbabn female drama, but what's so funny about some blonde throwing herself at a random football player?

Apparently it needs to be spelled out for you. The woman was chasing after HIM. She was "desparate." Duh. He wasn't stalking her or coaxing her or anything. She just kept throwing herself at him. I don't see the racism here. Maybe you have to possess a pathetic victim mentality to find offense and oppression in every stupid little situation that involves race.

Just because an easy blonde (another stereotype) throws herself at me doesn't mean I will go with it, but the fact that the player does, while blowing off his work, shows his lack of morality. Perhaps you should go read Faulkner's novel like I said, so that I don't have to spell it out for you.

like someone else said, it could have easily been Jeremy Shockey in the role of TO and it would have gone over the exact same way and if it can go over the exact same way if its a white player, how is it racist?
2 words: victim mentality
 

Brackis

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Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
Originally posted by: Brackis

Just because an easy blonde (another stereotype) throws herself at me doesn't mean I will go with it, but the fact that the player does, while blowing off his work, shows his lack of morality. Perhaps you should go read Faulkner's novel like I said, so that I don't have to spell it out for you.

like someone else said, it could have easily been Jeremy Shockey in the role of TO and it would have gone over the exact same way and if it can go over the exact same way if its a white player, how is it racist?

The fact is that it wasn't Jeremy Shockey, it was Terrel Owens. Your argument is baseless because it never happened, whereas this stereotype of blacks has existed for over a century.
 
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Originally posted by: Brackis
Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
Originally posted by: Brackis

Just because an easy blonde (another stereotype) throws herself at me doesn't mean I will go with it, but the fact that the player does, while blowing off his work, shows his lack of morality. Perhaps you should go read Faulkner's novel like I said, so that I don't have to spell it out for you.

like someone else said, it could have easily been Jeremy Shockey in the role of TO and it would have gone over the exact same way and if it can go over the exact same way if its a white player, how is it racist?

The fact is that it wasn't Jeremy Shockey, it was Terrel Owens. Your argument is baseless because it never happened, whereas this stereotype of blacks has existed for over a century.

it wasnt jeremy shockey because the Giants dont play on Monday night this year :roll:

 

spanky

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why does anything negative that remotely involves a black person become racially offensive?
 
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Originally posted by: spanky
why does anything negative that remotely involves a black person become a racially offensive?

thats what i dont understand...i thought everyone was up in arms with a "naked women" on TV...i didnt know that it was a problem that she was white
 

Brackis

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Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
Originally posted by: Brackis
Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
Originally posted by: Brackis

Just because an easy blonde (another stereotype) throws herself at me doesn't mean I will go with it, but the fact that the player does, while blowing off his work, shows his lack of morality. Perhaps you should go read Faulkner's novel like I said, so that I don't have to spell it out for you.

like someone else said, it could have easily been Jeremy Shockey in the role of TO and it would have gone over the exact same way and if it can go over the exact same way if its a white player, how is it racist?

The fact is that it wasn't Jeremy Shockey, it was Terrel Owens. Your argument is baseless because it never happened, whereas this stereotype of blacks has existed for over a century.

it wasnt jeremy shockey because the Giants dont play on Monday night this year :roll:


It wasn't Jeremy Shockey because the NFL is a league based around black athletes. That is an undeniable fact, yet the producer of the segment takes the viewer into a scenario where the NFL player goes for a sordid romp of sex, implying that a community of black professional athletes are feral creatures filled only with testosterone and impulse.
 

spanky

Lifer
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by the way, dungy was talking about the stereotype of atheletes (specifically african-americans) being viewed as sexual predators. why are you twisting this into "no morality" blackeye for black ppl?
 

Brackis

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Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
Originally posted by: spanky
why does anything negative that remotely involves a black person become a racially offensive?

thats what i dont understand...i thought everyone was up in arms with a "naked women" on TV...i didnt know that it was a problem that she was white

YOU DON'T GET IT...it isn;t about her being white, it is about the male involved being an immoral lback football player.
 

Kaervak

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Originally posted by: spanky
why does anything negative that remotely involves a black person become a racially offensive?

Because quite a few people in this country are uptight assholes that need to complain about damn near everything.
 
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Originally posted by: Brackis
Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
Originally posted by: Brackis
Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
Originally posted by: Brackis

Just because an easy blonde (another stereotype) throws herself at me doesn't mean I will go with it, but the fact that the player does, while blowing off his work, shows his lack of morality. Perhaps you should go read Faulkner's novel like I said, so that I don't have to spell it out for you.

like someone else said, it could have easily been Jeremy Shockey in the role of TO and it would have gone over the exact same way and if it can go over the exact same way if its a white player, how is it racist?

The fact is that it wasn't Jeremy Shockey, it was Terrel Owens. Your argument is baseless because it never happened, whereas this stereotype of blacks has existed for over a century.

it wasnt jeremy shockey because the Giants dont play on Monday night this year :roll:

no it wasnt Shockey because he isnt playing in that game...the whole point was to have a star player from a team that is playing...they were trying to advertise "Desperate Housewives" as a show about woman doing anything for sex trying to get the male football market to watch...the stars of the teams that played were McNabb and TO (dallas has no one this year!)...

It wasn't Jeremy Shockey because the NFL is a league based around black athletes. That is an undeniable fact, yet the producer of the segment takes the viewer into a scenario where the NFL player goes for a sordid romp of sex, implying that a community of black professional athletes are feral creatures filled only with testosterone and impulse.

it was trying to get more viewers to their other show to get money from ads...thats it, its all about money...not trying to put down the black community
 
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