WTF!!!!!! - Virginia Tech

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Conky
Too bad he didn't pull the trigger taking this pic. Watching his videos on NBC is disgusting. NBC has no shame and apparently no compassion for the victims families. I can't imagine how they must feel watching the murderer ranting on national TV. NBC is really aiming for and reaching a new low.

Seeing the pics and videos it occurs to me that mentally ill people are going to need to be dealt with differently in this country in the future. As it stands now most are left to go homeless or to prison or are released back into the public like this maniac was. Whatever happened to insane asylums?

They're journalists, not grief counselors.

 

[da loser]

they keep interviewing his suitemates. did he have a room by himself? can't imagine a roommate not noticing the guns

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: da loser
they keep interviewing his suitemates. did he have a room by himself? can't imagine a roommate not noticing the guns

Why? They are not large. I'm sure my roommates did things in the room I had no idea about... and don't want to know about.

 

[StormRider]

His plays makes me wonder if he was sexually abused by an authority figure or something (his father?). And I've only heard bits and pieces from his speech but he says things like "you made me do this" which makes me wonder who he is addressing. Is he addressing society? Or maybe his abuser? He says something like, "you have your jewelry, your BMW, your cognac, .. isn't that enough?" which made me think that isn't that enough for you? Why also sexually abuse me?

He seems like an angry person who feels powerless and wants others to know his pain and to cause others pain.

From what I have read about him, it seems a lot of people tried to reach out to him but that he rebuffed them and is not a very pleasant person to be around so it's hard for me to feel sorry for him.

I do worry that he will become the next martyr for future Columbine-like killers with all the attention he is getting... You know there are other angry kids out there who will look up to him and what he did...

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: StormRider
His plays makes me wonder if he was sexually abused by an authority figure or something (his father?)

I thought the same thing. I note his play "Richard McBeef" also involves a sexually molested child getting revenge. That said, he appears to have been floridly mentally ill, so it's possible he was totally delusional about that.

 

[Rogodin2]

Think happy sunflower thoughts-all of them went to heaven.

Rogo

 

[deejayshakur]

maybe i'm fashionably late but where are his parents through all of this?

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: deejayshakur
maybe i'm fashionably late but where are his parents through all of this?

Fighting off the flood of media, death threats, and anguish that a tragedy like this would bring.

They would do well to stay out of the public eye for the next couple weeks until this dies down.

 

[Caesar]

Originally posted by: deejayshakur
maybe i'm fashionably late but where are his parents through all of this?

What do you think will it be? They also lost a son and they won't get any sympathy from anyone.

 

[Corporate Thug]

FBI shut down my school today due to threats.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/04/18/BAGT4PB3H66.DTL

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
FBI shut down my school today due to threats.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/04/18/BAGT4PB3H66.DTL

Hopefully they investigate this and find out who did it. I'd start with all the classes who had exams scheduled for today.

 

[Dacalo]

Originally posted by: CaesaR

Originally posted by: deejayshakur
maybe i'm fashionably late but where are his parents through all of this?

What do you think will it be? They also lost a son and they won't get any sympathy from anyone.

Unfortunately, they are between a rock and a hard place. They won't get sympathy here in the U.S. due to their son's actions. They won't get sympathy back home in Korea because their son disgraced the country by killing so many innocents. Either way, they are screwed...

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: Muse

Originally posted by: Conky
Too bad he didn't pull the trigger taking this pic. Watching his videos on NBC is disgusting. NBC has no shame and apparently no compassion for the victims families. I can't imagine how they must feel watching the murderer ranting on national TV. NBC is really aiming for and reaching a new low.

Seeing the pics and videos it occurs to me that mentally ill people are going to need to be dealt with differently in this country in the future. As it stands now most are left to go homeless or to prison or are released back into the public like this maniac was. Whatever happened to insane asylums?

I strongly recommend reading the entire interview with this top forensic psychiatrist concerning Cho:

Cho Likely Schizophrenic, Evidence Suggests

I have to agree. He is crazy.

 

[deejayshakur]

Originally posted by: Dacalo

Originally posted by: CaesaR

Originally posted by: deejayshakur
maybe i'm fashionably late but where are his parents through all of this?

What do you think will it be? They also lost a son and they won't get any sympathy from anyone.

Unfortunately, they are between a rock and a hard place. They won't get sympathy here in the U.S. due to their son's actions. They won't get sympathy back home in Korea because their son disgraced the country by killing so many innocents. Either way, they are screwed...

right. i guess i'm just speculating about the references to child-abuse/molestation. especially in asian cultures, this stuff often goes under the radar... did mom/dad really not detect any signs either?

off topic: anybody know if body armor rated at levels IIA and II protect against hollow point bullets? under NIJ classification, only level IIIA makes any reference to that type of ammo.

these obituaries...they're endless.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: deejayshakur

Originally posted by: Dacalo

Originally posted by: CaesaR

Originally posted by: deejayshakur
maybe i'm fashionably late but where are his parents through all of this?

What do you think will it be? They also lost a son and they won't get any sympathy from anyone.

Unfortunately, they are between a rock and a hard place. They won't get sympathy here in the U.S. due to their son's actions. They won't get sympathy back home in Korea because their son disgraced the country by killing so many innocents. Either way, they are screwed...

right. i guess i'm just speculating about the references to child-abuse/molestation. especially in asian cultures, this stuff often goes under the radar... did mom/dad really not detect any signs either?

off topic: anybody know if body armor rated at levels IIA and II protect against hollow point bullets? under NIJ classification, only level IIIA makes any reference to that type of ammo.

these obituaries...they're endless.

Hollow points work best against soft targets. Hollow points employ soft materials to promote expansion, which artificially increases the caliber of the bullet the way a blower artificially increases the displacement of an engine. But due to their softer exposed lead composition, they expand, fragment, and deflect readily against hard targets like body armor. The deformation of the soft metal absorbs and dissipates the energy on impact against hard targets and the increased surface area of the front of the mushroomed round imparts less stress on the target by spreading out the force on a larger area. Hollow points are less than ideal for armored targets anyway.

Full jacketed non expanding rounds encased in a harder metal jacket like copper are best against armor and offer improved penetration, but create a smaller wound channel in soft tissue. But realistically all *common* handgun rounds are ineffective at penetrating modern body armor, hollow point or jacketed doesn't really matter. Blunt force trauma behind the impact area however is a concern, as you can still suffer broken bones, bruises, and ruptured organs. 'Feels like getting hit by a truck' is about right. With full class III armor with all optional trauma plates however, you could take 9mm rounds to the chest all day and it would barely even register. Class III is capable of stopping limited applications of even .308/7.62mm rifle fire.

The reason he did so much damage is because everyone was in neat little rows and trapped in 20' x 20' rooms sitting on the floor hiding under their desks and he fired no less than three shots per unarmed unarmored victim at close range.

 

[IEC]

Originally posted by: Dacalo

Originally posted by: CaesaR

Originally posted by: deejayshakur
maybe i'm fashionably late but where are his parents through all of this?

What do you think will it be? They also lost a son and they won't get any sympathy from anyone.

Unfortunately, they are between a rock and a hard place. They won't get sympathy here in the U.S. due to their son's actions. They won't get sympathy back home in Korea because their son disgraced the country by killing so many innocents. Either way, they are screwed...

They're the ones who've got to be suffering the worst right now. To lose a child AND to be despised and hated by everyone...

If his sister graduated from Princeton a while back at least she's probably married and doesn't share the last name...

 

[dsity]

even though his sister doesn't share the last name, she's prolly dealing with it emotionally. You know, things like that are very sad.

does anyone ever feel like turning the clock back to attempt to help out Cho? (in the good way)

 

[PeeluckyDuckee]

that picture with the hat backwards, the vest, and the double handgun reminds me of Chow Yun Fat.

There's more to his background and what started this all, but only info his parents would know and I doubt it would ever surface. Perhaps an incident or a series of which occurred prior to him becoming a college student?

 

[exdeath]

What a fvking tool.

Damn coward. I would have offered to go 1v1 with him on a deserted island if he wanted to shoot guns at someone.

Call it community service, on the house.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: exdeath
What a fvking tool.

Damn coward. I would have offered to go 1v1 with him on a deserted island if he wanted someone to shoot guns at someone.

:roll: He was mentally deranged and is now dead - what is your excuse for posting this nonsense?

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: exdeath
What a fvking tool.

Damn coward. I would have offered to go 1v1 with him on a deserted island if he wanted someone to shoot guns at someone.

:roll: He was mentally deranged and is now dead - what is your excuse for posting this nonsense?

Expressing my anger and limitless disgust that he was a coward for enacting his rage on innocents who had no chance of fighting back and that I would have been (note past tense) happy to accommodate his need to shoot at someone in place of those 32 victims? I could use the exercise.

What is your excuse for your pointless reply?

 

[StormRider]

Hmm, I listened to some more of his rants and my theory seems off-base. He used the terms wealthy brats and snobs which wouldn't apply to his father.

 

[dsity]

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: exdeath
What a fvking tool.

Damn coward. I would have offered to go 1v1 with him on a deserted island if he wanted someone to shoot guns at someone.

:roll: He was mentally deranged and is now dead - what is your excuse for posting this nonsense?

Expressing my anger that he was a coward for enacting his rage on innocents who had no chance of fighting back and that I would have been happy to accommodate his need to shoot at someone in place of those 32 victims? What is your excuse for your pointless reply?

1v1 lets say he won, what then? Nonsense sir nonsense.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: dsity

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: exdeath
What a fvking tool.

Damn coward. I would have offered to go 1v1 with him on a deserted island if he wanted someone to shoot guns at someone.

:roll: He was mentally deranged and is now dead - what is your excuse for posting this nonsense?

Expressing my anger that he was a coward for enacting his rage on innocents who had no chance of fighting back and that I would have been happy to accommodate his need to shoot at someone in place of those 32 victims? What is your excuse for your pointless reply?

1v1 lets say he won, what then? Nonsense sir nonsense.

If that was possible, then there is a whole shtload we aren't being told about him... or he got lucky. It happens from time to time, bullets don't discriminate.

In all seriousness though, there are other avenues for shooting at people if thats what gets you off. Those which do not take place within the borders of a civilized society of law and order and don't involve unarmed students trapped in a classroom with their heads between their knees. Those avenues are legal and you even get paid for it, provided you are good enough to be around to pick up your paycheck.

That ****** coward.

Not trying to sound macho or anything, it just severely pisses me off to no end that its always people unable to defend themselves that get caught in these kinds of situations. Like everyone else here, it frustrates me.

 

[StormRider]

Originally posted by: PeeluckyDuckee
that picture with the hat backwards, the vest, and the double handgun reminds me of Chow Yun Fat.

There's more to his background and what started this all, but only info his parents would know and I doubt it would ever surface. Perhaps an incident or a series of which occurred prior to him becoming a college student?

One thing that I wonder about is why he killed the girl in the dorm first? Did they have a relationship? Were they mySpace friends and he assume it was more and got angry at being rejected? He supposedly stalked two other girls in the past. That would be 3 rejections. Did he then delude himself into thinking that he was rejected because he wasn't wealthy enough? And then started to blame the wealthy for his problems?