WTF!!!!!! - Virginia Tech

[Jack Flash]

This is so horrible.

 

[StormRider]

Originally posted by: dsity
even though his sister doesn't share the last name, she's prolly dealing with it emotionally. You know, things like that are very sad.

does anyone ever feel like turning the clock back to attempt to help out Cho? (in the good way)

I've actually thought about going back in time and taking a 2x4 and knocking him out before he could kill.

From the stories I've heard it seems like people have tried to reach out to him and help but he didn't want to be helped.

 

[mlm]

Originally posted by: StormRider
From the stories I've heard it seems like people have tried to reach out to him and help but he didn't want to be helped.

But if he was truly as mentally ill as everything seems to be indicating, simply "reaching out" wouldn't have done a single thing. He needed to be forced into professional help, but unfortunately it seems like they were looking for the wrong thing (depression) when he was admitted that one time.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: StormRider
Hmm, I listened to some more of his rants and my theory seems off-base. He used the terms wealthy brats and snobs which wouldn't apply to his father.

I didn't like rich brats and snobs either. I dealt with it by moving my way up and surpassing them in the end. Aside from everything else thats wrong with killing innocent people, the look of economic defeat and resentment in their living face is much more pleasing.

 

[RobsPics]

Originally posted by: exdeath
I didn't like rich brats and snobs either. I dealt with it by moving my way up and surpassing them in the end. Aside from everything else thats wrong with killing innocent people, the look of economic defeat and resentment in their living face is much more pleasing.

Please seeks some psychiatric counseling.

We don't need another deadly massacre.

***bookmarked for future reference****

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
FBI shut down my school today due to threats.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/04/18/BAGT4PB3H66.DTL

Hopefully they investigate this and find out who did it. I'd start with all the classes who had exams scheduled for today.

exams period had not started. As far as I know, there are no leads to this point but it gave everyone a good scare.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: mlm

Originally posted by: StormRider
From the stories I've heard it seems like people have tried to reach out to him and help but he didn't want to be helped.

But if he was truly as mentally ill as everything seems to be indicating, simply "reaching out" wouldn't have done a single thing. He needed to be forced into professional help, but unfortunately it seems like they were looking for the wrong thing (depression) when he was admitted that one time.

And thats a major problem in our society. Of course we want to do our best to solve problems with talk, counseling, etc., but nobody wants to face the uncomfortable path of how to deal with people that refuse help or simply cannot be helped. We cannot make that choice for someone else, but we are still obligated to protect ourselves and our society.

If we lock him up on suspicion we are violating his rights and wrongly imprisoning him much in the way people cry out about China's human rights violations. But by the time something happens, it's too late for the victims. Nobody is at fault here, excepting the person who commits the crime at the time it occurs. Thinking about doing it, talking about doing it (excluding actual threats), being statistically prone to doing it; none of those are illegal. Innocent until proven guilty.

That is simply the price we pay for freedom.

The alternative is living in a society like China, Mexico, etc. where you have no rights and can be thrown in jail for whatever reason the local authorities decide and for as long as they want.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: RobsPics

Originally posted by: exdeath
I didn't like rich brats and snobs either. I dealt with it by moving my way up and surpassing them in the end. Aside from everything else thats wrong with killing innocent people, the look of economic defeat and resentment in their living face is much more pleasing.

Please seeks some psychiatric counseling.

We don't need another deadly massacre.

***bookmarked for future reference****

How did you learn to operate a forum without knowing how to read?

Rich snobs give me ambition and motivation in life to work hard and succeed and make up for temporary deficiencies so that I may one day surpass them and flip the game board around. I love running into people down the road who thought they were better than me a few years before, after I have nicer things or more accomplishments than they ever did.

Where the hell did you get 'deadly massacre' out of that? No need to worry about me. Worry instead about the rich sheltered snobs going nuts after they are cut off from their parents tit and can't face the real world after all their bragging and superiority. It's a hit to the self esteem when all the people you put down are suddenly above you.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: StormRider
Hmm, I listened to some more of his rants and my theory seems off-base. He used the terms wealthy brats and snobs which wouldn't apply to his father.

He also talks about Debra LaFave and John Mark Karr, though. So that gives your theory some validity.

 

[S Freud]

What with all the trolls with new accounts in this thread? Seriously have some respect for people will you?

 

[RobsPics]

Originally posted by: exdeath

How did you learn to operate a forum without knowing how to read?

Rich snobs give me ambition and motivation in life to work hard and succeed and make up for temporary deficiencies so that I may one day surpass them and flip the game board around. I love running into people down the road who thought they were better than me a few years before, after I have nicer things or more accomplishments than they ever did.

Where the hell did you get 'deadly massacre' out of that? I'd be more worried about the rich sheltered snobs going nuts after they are cut off from their parents tit and can't face the real world after all their bragging and superiority.

The above reasoning is quite disturbing.

Again, I urge that you seek some sort of counseling.

Do you own a gun?

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: RobsPics

Originally posted by: exdeath

How did you learn to operate a forum without knowing how to read?

Rich snobs give me ambition and motivation in life to work hard and succeed and make up for temporary deficiencies so that I may one day surpass them and flip the game board around. I love running into people down the road who thought they were better than me a few years before, after I have nicer things or more accomplishments than they ever did.

Where the hell did you get 'deadly massacre' out of that? I'd be more worried about the rich sheltered snobs going nuts after they are cut off from their parents tit and can't face the real world after all their bragging and superiority.

The above reasoning is quite disturbing.

Again, I urge that you seek some sort of counseling.

Do you own a gun?

How is it disturbing that I choose to 'get revenge' against people who put me down in a economically productive and socially acceptable way instead of going on pointless murder sprees that achieve absolutely nothing like this asshat did? Unless you are some communist that doesn't believe anyone should ever strive to be better than someone else or acquire wealth or any of those things.

And yes, several, of a quantity and variety of types that will probably make you wet your bed for the rest of your life if you only knew

Rest assured they will never be used in such a way as you propose. Even *IF* I did go nuts, as a matter of principle, I would use a means other than my guns simply to deny the media and the liberal left fuel for their anti gun propaganda. And I wouldn't want my actions to cause the political subversion of other's constitutional rights.

But that is a big if... more like never. Because you see, at the core of my belief system is the single and universal right to private property and free will, including the right to ones own body and the right to live ones own life in that body as one chooses without unjust transgression by others. The only rule then is that you must respect that same right of others in return. Not acknowledging that same right of others, either by stealing or murdering for example, is forfeiture of your right to be free from the same in return. This is why it is socially acceptable to confiscate stolen property, place people in jail against their will, and have the death penalty for the most reprehensible of offenses.

Killing without just cause, such as self defense or the defense of others, is murder, which is the most vile possible transgression of the private property rights I would give my life to defend.

It's basically the golden rule: Do onto others as you would wish them do onto you.

I don't want to be murdered or stolen from, so I don't do it to someone else.

The above is basically the basis for civilized society since the dawn of man and is the foundation for every law and consequence thereof ever devised in any man made artificial concept of law and justice.

 

[deejayshakur]

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: mlm

Originally posted by: StormRider
From the stories I've heard it seems like people have tried to reach out to him and help but he didn't want to be helped.

But if he was truly as mentally ill as everything seems to be indicating, simply "reaching out" wouldn't have done a single thing. He needed to be forced into professional help, but unfortunately it seems like they were looking for the wrong thing (depression) when he was admitted that one time.

And thats a major problem in our society. Of course we want to do our best to solve problems with talk, counseling, etc., but nobody wants to face the uncomfortable path of how to deal with people that refuse help or simply cannot be helped. We cannot make that choice for someone else, but we are still obligated to protect ourselves and our society.

If we lock him up on suspicion we are violating his rights and wrongly imprisoning him much in the way people cry out about China's human rights violations. But by the time something happens, it's too late for the victims. Nobody is at fault here, excepting the person who commits the crime at the time it occurs. Thinking about doing it, talking about doing it (excluding actual threats), being statistically prone to doing it; none of those are illegal. Innocent until proven guilty.

That is simply the price we pay for freedom.

The alternative is living in a society like China, Mexico, etc. where you have no rights and can be thrown in jail for whatever reason the local authorities decide and for as long as they want.

trolls aside, there is some truth to the above.

from the standpoint of the medical professional, there are only so many legal options with an at-risk patient. physicians can order 5150 holds for suicidal patients or home-confinement for those not following medication regimens for infectious diseases like TB, but there needs to be proof. if indeed this kid had schizophrenia or some other type of psychotic disorder, i'm not even sure that you could blame him. these people are really in another world.

how do you deal with these kinds of people who show no signs or symptoms, who are isolated mentally and socially from other human beings, and tick away each day until they finally snap? i think in america, you just don't. sadly, this is the price we pay.

 

[RobsPics]

Originally posted by: exdeath

How is it disturbing that I choose to 'get revenge' against people who put me down in a economically productive and socially acceptable way instead of going on pointless murder sprees that achieve absolutely nothing like this asshat did? Unless you are some communist that doesn't believe anyone should ever strive to be better than someone else or acquire wealth or any of those things.

And yes, several, of a quantity and variety of types that will probably make you wet your bed for the rest of your life if you only knew

Rest assured they will never be used in such a way as you propose. Even *IF* I did go nuts, as a matter of principle, I would use a means other than my guns simply to deny the media and the liberal left fuel for their anti gun propaganda. And I wouldn't want my actions to cause the political subversion of other's constitutional rights.

But that is a big if... more like never. Because you see, at the core of my belief system is the single and universal right to private property and free will, including the right to ones own body and the right to live ones own life in that body as one chooses without unjust transgression by others. Killing without just cause, such as self defense or the defense of others, is murder, which is the most vile possible transgression of the private property rights I would give my life to defend.

It's basically the golden rule: Do onto others as you would wish them do onto you.

I don't want to be murdered or stolen from, so I don't do it to someone else.

The above is basically the basis for civilized society since the dawn of man and is the foundation for every law and consequence thereof ever devised in any man made artificial concept of law and justice.

I sense alot of hate within you.

Thankfully you don't live anywhere near me.

And if you did, I still have a multi-camera motion sensor security system protecting my my house (all paid for by my trust fund) and my person for people like you.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: RobsPics

Originally posted by: exdeath

How is it disturbing that I choose to 'get revenge' against people who put me down in a economically productive and socially acceptable way instead of going on pointless murder sprees that achieve absolutely nothing like this asshat did? Unless you are some communist that doesn't believe anyone should ever strive to be better than someone else or acquire wealth or any of those things.

And yes, several, of a quantity and variety of types that will probably make you wet your bed for the rest of your life if you only knew

Rest assured they will never be used in such a way as you propose. Even *IF* I did go nuts, as a matter of principle, I would use a means other than my guns simply to deny the media and the liberal left fuel for their anti gun propaganda. And I wouldn't want my actions to cause the political subversion of other's constitutional rights.

But that is a big if... more like never. Because you see, at the core of my belief system is the single and universal right to private property and free will, including the right to ones own body and the right to live ones own life in that body as one chooses without unjust transgression by others. Killing without just cause, such as self defense or the defense of others, is murder, which is the most vile possible transgression of the private property rights I would give my life to defend.

It's basically the golden rule: Do onto others as you would wish them do onto you.

I don't want to be murdered or stolen from, so I don't do it to someone else.

The above is basically the basis for civilized society since the dawn of man and is the foundation for every law and consequence thereof ever devised in any man made artificial concept of law and justice.

I sense alot of hate within you.

Thankfully you don't live anywhere near me.

And if you did, I still have a multi-camera motion sensor security system protecting my my house (all paid for by my trust fund) and my person for people like you.

Ok you have just proven that you are a troll. Goodbye now.

PS: have fun with your cameras. I'm sure the guy they would have stopped the guy that caused Monday's massacre. :roll:

 

[RobsPics]

Bye, I have to go out to the gym anyhow.

I'll be driving my '07 Benz.

Instead of hating me, please seek counseling. Its for your own good really.

 

[exdeath]

*deleted by self out of context and letting myself get snared by a troll*

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

you guys are acting like children. take your stupid bickering elsewhere.

 

[postmortemIA]

Originally posted by: RobsPics
Bye, I have to go out to the gym anyhow.

I'll be driving my '07 Benz.

Instead of hating me, please seek counseling. Its for your own good really.

I have 2011 benz... that is i'll get one then.... whos teh winnar now?

 

[Doboji]

After reading parts of Cho's "manifesto" it occurs to me that Cho, and people like him(And BTW there are MANY other people from the same perspective) are seriously lacking important perspective.

Are there alot of rich spoiled little snobs on college campuses? yes absolutely, I myself remember being frustrated that while I had no car at all, many of the kids around me were driving lexuses and BMWs... however there are 2 really important points that he's missing here.

1) You are still attending an American University... that in and of itself makes you yourself a spoiled little snob in relation to much of the world. It means(assuming you don't kill yourself and others) you will have an education allowing you to earn a much better living than much of the rest of the country let alone the rest of the world.

2) If you were a parent, wouldn't you also want the best for your children? Are you an evil snob for wanting your children to be happy, and live a better life than you? If Mr. Cho were to grow up and earn his own living is there any doubt he would also seek the best for his children?

I think in the end Cho proved one thing... he was way more selfish, and spoiled BY FAR than any of his victims.

-Max

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: postmortemIA

Originally posted by: RobsPics
Bye, I have to go out to the gym anyhow.

I'll be driving my '07 Benz.

Instead of hating me, please seek counseling. Its for your own good really.

I have 2011 benz... that is i'll get one then.... whos teh winnar now?

Don't bother with him. A C220 with cloth seats is not a 'benz' :laugh:

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: exdeath
What a fvking tool.

Damn coward. I would have offered to go 1v1 with him on a deserted island if he wanted someone to shoot guns at someone.

:roll: He was mentally deranged and is now dead - what is your excuse for posting this nonsense?

Expressing my anger and limitless disgust that he was a coward for enacting his rage on innocents who had no chance of fighting back and that I would have been (note past tense) happy to accommodate his need to shoot at someone in place of those 32 victims? I could use the exercise.

What is your excuse for your pointless reply?

You are a moron and a showcase for why guns should be outlawed. That's my excuse. Stop your nonsense. :roll:

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Doboji
After reading parts of Cho's "manifesto" it occurs to me that Cho, and people like him(And BTW there are MANY other people from the same perspective) are seriously lacking important perspective.

Are there alot of rich spoiled little snobs on college campuses? yes absolutely, I myself remember being frustrated that while I had no car at all, many of the kids around me were driving lexuses and BMWs... however there are 2 really important points that he's missing here.

1) You are still attending an American University... that in and of itself makes you yourself a spoiled little snob in relation to much of the world. It means(assuming you don't kill yourself and others) you will have an education allowing you to earn a much better living than much of the rest of the country let alone the rest of the world.

2) If you were a parent, wouldn't you also want the best for your children? Are you an evil snob for wanting your children to be happy, and live a better life than you? If Mr. Cho were to grow up and earn his own living is there any doubt he would also seek the best for his children?

I think in the end Cho proved one thing... he was way more selfish, and spoiled BY FAR than any of his victims.

-Max

The whole thing proved he was very mentally ill. When I watched his video I saw a disturbed man who lost the capability to reason and think logically.

I wonder if his family ever showed him any love.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: RobsPics

Originally posted by: exdeath
I didn't like rich brats and snobs either. I dealt with it by moving my way up and surpassing them in the end. Aside from everything else thats wrong with killing innocent people, the look of economic defeat and resentment in their living face is much more pleasing.

Please seeks some psychiatric counseling.

We don't need another deadly massacre.

***bookmarked for future reference****

How did you learn to operate a forum without knowing how to read?

Rich snobs give me ambition and motivation in life to work hard and succeed and make up for temporary deficiencies so that I may one day surpass them and flip the game board around. I love running into people down the road who thought they were better than me a few years before, after I have nicer things or more accomplishments than they ever did.

Where the hell did you get 'deadly massacre' out of that? No need to worry about me. Worry instead about the rich sheltered snobs going nuts after they are cut off from their parents tit and can't face the real world after all their bragging and superiority. It's a hit to the self esteem when all the people you put down are suddenly above you.

You sound like you may seriously need professional help. Your level of self-aggrandizement and professed hunger for "revenge" suggest you have issues. It concerns me that you are a gun owner, quite frankly.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: da loser
they keep interviewing his suitemates. did he have a room by himself? can't imagine a roommate not noticing the guns

Why? They are not large. I'm sure my roommates did things in the room I had no idea about... and don't want to know about.

not only that, but there is nothing wrong with owning guns.
it's funny how people automatically think of guns as evil or bad.