I am arguing with his statement about what "more" and "just as" mean, and not about guns in particular. Did the capitalized text not clue you in to that?
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: jman19
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Rudee
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Rudee
Is it confirmed the shooter used a handgun? You would think you would need an assault rifle or shotgun to have that many fatalities. Either the shooter is a marksmen with a handgun or he had many many reloads.
umm...
no wonder people are so afraid of guns, they have no clue about them
It's a fact. Assault rifles and shotguns in the hands of a individual with minimal training will inflict more damage then a handgun. Thinks about this scenario.... I'm at the end of a long hallway with an assault rifle, you are at the opposite end of a long hallway with a handgun. Who do you think has the advantage? If the shooter today had them cornered in a small classroom, then a handgun would certainly be just as deadly.
of course an assault rifle would be more deadly, but a handgun is just as deadly.
from what i've read in this post, he killed several of them execution style, which is point blank to the back of the head. no skill needed there.
Your logic is ass - an assault rifle would be MORE deadly, but a handgun is JUST AS deadly...
well a handgun can kill you just as good as a rifle will.
come to think of it a knife will kill you just as much..
Originally posted by: Juno
Originally posted by: Darkstar757
OMG 31 PEOPLE WTF!!! How did he get off that many rounds and no one jumped on this guy!!!!
THIS MAKES ME MAD AS HELL!!!!
Im mad and sad at the same time. This is sick!
yeah, i was wondering the same thing!
if i were a student, i'd pound on the gunman! self-defense ftw.
Originally posted by: gerwen
Originally posted by: jman19
Originally posted by: pontifex
of course an assault rifle would be more deadly, but a handgun is just as deadly.
from what i've read in this post, he killed several of them execution style, which is point blank to the back of the head. no skill needed there.
Your logic is ass - an assault rifle would be MORE deadly, but a handgun is JUST AS deadly...
The difference is splitting hairs. In a battle, the assault rifle has the advantage, but against a roomful of innocents, both are pretty much equal in killing power.
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: XxPrOdiGyxX
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: XxPrOdiGyxX
If we make it legal to carry conceal weapons then there will be a lot of people who will go and get it. Because if you know a bunch of people have it then you will want one to "protect" yourself. Look at the way countries are trying to develop nuclear technologies to keep up and "protect" themselves from countries that already have it. Anyone with a clean record and patience can get a license...that doesn't mean that those people won't ever kill anyone with that power. They can either flip out because their wife/husband cheated on them. They can accidentally jump to conclusions and mistakenly shoot someone over a misunderstanding because they thought the other guy had a gun and was putting them in danger. STUPID PEOPLE WILL GET THEIR HANDS ON THE GUN...GUARANTEED. Why make it legal to carry them and force other people to feel they have to get one to protect themselves?
your logic is fail
haha can't argue with that one. but whatever it is your opinion. i would just rather have a country that isn't like the countries in the middle east where guns are carried around in public, especially by kids. if you don't think escalation is inevitable then i don't know what to say. eventually automatic weapons will become legal. then armor piercing rounds. etc.
automatic weapons are legal in some places. silencers and suppressors too. not sure about the ammo tho.
Originally posted by: jman19
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Rudee
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Rudee
Is it confirmed the shooter used a handgun? You would think you would need an assault rifle or shotgun to have that many fatalities. Either the shooter is a marksmen with a handgun or he had many many reloads.
umm...
no wonder people are so afraid of guns, they have no clue about them
It's a fact. Assault rifles and shotguns in the hands of a individual with minimal training will inflict more damage then a handgun. Thinks about this scenario.... I'm at the end of a long hallway with an assault rifle, you are at the opposite end of a long hallway with a handgun. Who do you think has the advantage? If the shooter today had them cornered in a small classroom, then a handgun would certainly be just as deadly.
of course an assault rifle would be more deadly, but a handgun is just as deadly.
from what i've read in this post, he killed several of them execution style, which is point blank to the back of the head. no skill needed there.
Your logic is ass - an assault rifle would be MORE deadly, but a handgun is JUST AS deadly...
Virginia Tech is better
Of course what do I know, I dropped out of engineering and joined the Building Construction Department which is frickin sweet
Designing buildings and such...YAWN...building the damn things...2 thumbs WAY UP
Originally posted by: jman19
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: jman19
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Rudee
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Rudee
Is it confirmed the shooter used a handgun? You would think you would need an assault rifle or shotgun to have that many fatalities. Either the shooter is a marksmen with a handgun or he had many many reloads.
umm...
no wonder people are so afraid of guns, they have no clue about them
It's a fact. Assault rifles and shotguns in the hands of a individual with minimal training will inflict more damage then a handgun. Thinks about this scenario.... I'm at the end of a long hallway with an assault rifle, you are at the opposite end of a long hallway with a handgun. Who do you think has the advantage? If the shooter today had them cornered in a small classroom, then a handgun would certainly be just as deadly.
of course an assault rifle would be more deadly, but a handgun is just as deadly.
from what i've read in this post, he killed several of them execution style, which is point blank to the back of the head. no skill needed there.
Your logic is ass - an assault rifle would be MORE deadly, but a handgun is JUST AS deadly...
well a handgun can kill you just as good as a rifle will.
come to think of it a knife will kill you just as much..
I am arguing with his statement about what "more" and "just as" mean, and not about guns in particular. Did the capitalized text not clue you in to that?
what are the chances we are going to know someone from here that was in that wrong place at the wrong time? on another board i frequent we have one guy who goes to VA Tech who is not accounted for yet.Originally posted by: toekramp
taken from another thread
about the OP:
Virginia Tech is better
Of course what do I know, I dropped out of engineering and joined the Building Construction Department which is frickin sweet
Designing buildings and such...YAWN...building the damn things...2 thumbs WAY UP
so hopefully he wasn't in the engineering building
I think the guy was injured, as I believe they would leave the dead there for investigation.Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: Rudee
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: jfall
check out the pic on foxnews.com, wtf are they doing?
looks like they are carrying out someone that injured.
They way they are doing looks like a very clumsy and uncoordinated way of carrying out and individual.
That picture is embarassing. In my 40 pounds of gear, I can carry another soldier in 40 pounds of gear for a decent distance in a training environment. With real adrenaline pumping, even a 200 pound unconcious man would be easy to carry for quite some distance.
Originally posted by: XxPrOdiGyxX
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: XxPrOdiGyxX
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: XxPrOdiGyxX
If we make it legal to carry conceal weapons then there will be a lot of people who will go and get it. Because if you know a bunch of people have it then you will want one to "protect" yourself. Look at the way countries are trying to develop nuclear technologies to keep up and "protect" themselves from countries that already have it. Anyone with a clean record and patience can get a license...that doesn't mean that those people won't ever kill anyone with that power. They can either flip out because their wife/husband cheated on them. They can accidentally jump to conclusions and mistakenly shoot someone over a misunderstanding because they thought the other guy had a gun and was putting them in danger. STUPID PEOPLE WILL GET THEIR HANDS ON THE GUN...GUARANTEED. Why make it legal to carry them and force other people to feel they have to get one to protect themselves?
your logic is fail
haha can't argue with that one. but whatever it is your opinion. i would just rather have a country that isn't like the countries in the middle east where guns are carried around in public, especially by kids. if you don't think escalation is inevitable then i don't know what to say. eventually automatic weapons will become legal. then armor piercing rounds. etc.
automatic weapons are legal in some places. silencers and suppressors too. not sure about the ammo tho.
My knowledge of guns laws are, admittedly, not up to date; so I wouldn't be surprised.
Originally posted by: jman19
See my response to waggy.
So not arguing what he said, just how he said it? Nitpicking then?Originally posted by: jman19
I am arguing with his statement about what "more" and "just as" mean, and not about guns in particular. Did the capitalized text not clue you in to that?
Originally posted by: Juno
Originally posted by: Darkstar757
OMG 31 PEOPLE WTF!!! How did he get off that many rounds and no one jumped on this guy!!!!
THIS MAKES ME MAD AS HELL!!!!
Im mad and sad at the same time. This is sick!
yeah, i was wondering the same thing!
if i were a student, i'd pound on the gunman! self-defense ftw.
Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Rudee
Is it confirmed the shooter used a handgun? You would think you would need an assault rifle or shotgun to have that many fatalities. Either the shooter is a marksmen with a handgun or he had many many reloads.
umm...
no wonder people are so afraid of guns, they have no clue about them
what are you confused about? rudee made a valid point and i would agree that this guy had to be a very accurate shot to kill this many. most random shootings have several wounded for every death.
Originally posted by: toekramp
taken from another thread
about the OP:
Virginia Tech is better
Of course what do I know, I dropped out of engineering and joined the Building Construction Department which is frickin sweet
Designing buildings and such...YAWN...building the damn things...2 thumbs WAY UP
so hopefully he wasn't in the engineering building
Originally posted by: Queasy
NBC - description of shooter.
The name of the gunman, whom witnesses described as a young Asian man wearing a maroon cap and a black leather jacket, was not released. It was not known if he was a student.?
Originally posted by: eleison
Originally posted by: Juno
Originally posted by: Darkstar757
OMG 31 PEOPLE WTF!!! How did he get off that many rounds and no one jumped on this guy!!!!
THIS MAKES ME MAD AS HELL!!!!
Im mad and sad at the same time. This is sick!
yeah, i was wondering the same thing!
if i were a student, i'd pound on the gunman! self-defense ftw.
two handguns... the gunman could of use them one @ a time... each gun can carry upto 15 rounds... initial ammo in the beginning of massacre 30 rounds... time to replace magazine.. 3 sec maximun...
Unarmed students going up against a guy with 2 guns which I'm assume one will always be in the loaded position.... suicidal...
There's really nothing the students can do... I guess the only thing would be for some brave students to sacrificing themselve by bum rushing the shooter... thats the only thing.. but then theres just a small chance of that working if the killer didn't get up close to the student... which he didn't really have to..
Sad situation...
Originally posted by: WackyDan
Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Rudee
Is it confirmed the shooter used a handgun? You would think you would need an assault rifle or shotgun to have that many fatalities. Either the shooter is a marksmen with a handgun or he had many many reloads.
umm...
no wonder people are so afraid of guns, they have no clue about them
what are you confused about? rudee made a valid point and i would agree that this guy had to be a very accurate shot to kill this many. most random shootings have several wounded for every death.
Handguns used in the distance that he was likely shooting people from(indoors) are very accurate.
Originally posted by: NakaNaka
I'm really curious to hear the stories of the kids who were in Norris hall, specifically how he got so many rounds off w. out anyone going after him. Also, how did he shoot up a dorm, not get stopped, allowed to roam freely on campus and then kill so many at Norris 2+ hours later. Shouldn't the cops have locked down campus after the first shooting?