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SVT Cobra

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They finally started playing the end of the video on CNN where the guy yells RUNNNNN



Also I wonder what would have happened if the Imus situation happened yesterday. No one would have cared.
 

Steve

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Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: Mill
I wonder if Colleges will start having those rapid notification systems? They have them at the High Schools here so they can notify parents of closures, accidents, bad weather, or emgergencies. Some of the districts here have 20K+ students, so I can imagine that's a lot of people to contact. They claim these systems can send over 20k text messages and make 20k phone calls in like 5 minutes

That would have saved a lot of lives.

I'm still confused at why one person getting killed in the morning should lead to closing down a school? WTF? Somone got shot in my dorms at school. It didn't affect the running of the school at all. Obviously once the mass shootings started, that was a big deal, but one murder in the morning isn't.

Because having people locked away in relative safety is a step closer to preventing mass shootings.
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: pontifex

so you wouldn't mind walking around campus with a murderer on the loose?

No. Why would I?

oh i don't know, it wouldn't be that he could kill you, but i'm sure there's a perfectly good reason.
you have more balls than me
 

Eli

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Holy fscking Christ!

I just skimmed most of this thread.

Wow. Unreal.
 

TallBill

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Originally posted by: Mill

Not all of us just got back from Iraq, dude. Think about it. That being said, I never said the school should be shut down. Just a warning to students and faculty so they can take precautions and know what they face. Even a simple "gunman killed someone and is on the loose" type of message might have gone a long way.

Still over here, but that really doesn't have much effect on my mindset. Anyways, nothing wrong with some sort of warning, but a shut down just isn't justified over one person.
 

Steve

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Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: Mill

Not all of us just got back from Iraq, dude. Think about it. That being said, I never said the school should be shut down. Just a warning to students and faculty so they can take precautions and know what they face. Even a simple "gunman killed someone and is on the loose" type of message might have gone a long way.

Still over here, but that really doesn't have much effect on my mindset. Anyways, nothing wrong with some sort of warning, but a shut down just isn't justified over one person.

VA Tech is not Baghdad. One shooting definitely warrants a lockdown until the shooter is captured.
 
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Originally posted by: sm8000
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: Mill

Not all of us just got back from Iraq, dude. Think about it. That being said, I never said the school should be shut down. Just a warning to students and faculty so they can take precautions and know what they face. Even a simple "gunman killed someone and is on the loose" type of message might have gone a long way.

Still over here, but that really doesn't have much effect on my mindset. Anyways, nothing wrong with some sort of warning, but a shut down just isn't justified over one person.

VA Tech is not Baghdad. One shooting definitely warrants a lockdown until the shooter is captured.

Have they said if they had someone in custody for the original shootings yet or not? If they did then they probably were not expecting the events that would later unfold, would they?
 

jpeyton

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Okay TallBill, we get it, you're a badass, a body or two isn't going to scare you away from lectures. Neato Cheeto.
 

NanoStuff

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Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: pontifex

so you wouldn't mind walking around campus with a murderer on the loose?

No. Why would I?

Wow. I have no idea how to even answer that one :roll:

To the poor kids

Being outside on campus ground would probably be the safest place. You can hide up a tree, the last place he would bother to look. If he's going from classroom to classroom, staying inside seems like a bad idea to me.
 

TallBill

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Originally posted by: sm8000

Because having people locked away in relative safety is a step closer to preventing mass shootings.

You guys are using information now known to think retroactively about the situation. Think about how often you hear about a random person getting murdered in fairly close locations, and just shrug it off. A typical killer doesn't kill one person that they know and then go attack someone at random on the streets.

Me not really being worried doesn't mean that I have balls, its just common sense.
 

KeithTalent

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Originally posted by: TallBill
It definitely could have saved some lives today.

That is completely baseless. There is no way for anyone to know if that is true or not until all of the facts are out, which is why all of these arguments should be taken out of this thread.

KT
 

TallBill

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Okay TallBill, we get it, you're a badass, a body or two isn't going to scare you away from lectures. Neato Cheeto.

You've never been anywhere in your entire life that someone has been killed within 5 minutes of you? Your first reaction was to barricade yourself in your house???

On a side note, I went to class on september 11th after watching both towers fall from accross the river in Newark.
 

Gamingphreek

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Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: sm8000

Because having people locked away in relative safety is a step closer to preventing mass shootings.

You guys are using information now known to think retroactively about the situation. Think about how often you hear about a random person getting murdered in fairly close locations, and just shrug it off. A typical killer doesn't kill one person that they know and then go attack someone at random on the streets.

Me not really being worried doesn't mean that I have balls, its just common sense.

This is a college campus. When it is in a city you can't lock it down. On a campus they are responsible for their students safety. You are a complete moron if you think that having a murderer running around isn't enough to cancel classes.

I hope you don't wake up and see the reality of the situation- even thought there was only 1 person KILLED at that time.

-Kevin
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: sm8000

Because having people locked away in relative safety is a step closer to preventing mass shootings.

You guys are using information now known to think retroactively about the situation. Think about how often you hear about a random person getting murdered in fairly close locations, and just shrug it off. A typical killer doesn't kill one person that they know and then go attack someone at random on the streets.

Me not really being worried doesn't mean that I have balls, its just common sense.

it would depend on the situation. a guy that kills someone in his house by himself is different than a guy who kills a person in a dorm full of people.

one is most likely going to get away with it, the other pretty much has nothing to lose at that point.
 

NYHoustonman

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Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: sm8000

Because having people locked away in relative safety is a step closer to preventing mass shootings.

You guys are using information now known to think retroactively about the situation. Think about how often you hear about a random person getting murdered in fairly close locations, and just shrug it off. A typical killer doesn't kill one person that they know and then go attack someone at random on the streets.

Me not really being worried doesn't mean that I have balls, its just common sense.

Exactly my sentiments. If I were to hear of a murder in one of the dorms, I'd probably still go to class... Now, if this guy unloaded initially on multiple people, as some have suggested, that'd be a different story. But one person? The guy was probably pissed or had some reason for it.
 

ryan256

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Bumrush99
I hope this nutcase wasn't a CS or online game player, they are going to blame this on gaming

What the guy was is what he was. The blame game will be played later. Right now I cannot understand how so many people are saying "I hope he wasn't X or did X" because they are afraid if the shooter did it will somehow mess with their lives. Over 32 people are dead. I don't really think anyone gives a fvck if you can play your online games or not right now.

Some people tend to immediately think of the long-term consequences immediately. Don't accuse others because you are short sighted.

I'm not shortsighted you dillweed. I'm more interested in what MATTERS, and that isn't video games. It is lives.

Yes.. lives are what matter right now.
But after the shooter has been captured/killed/escaped the long term effects come into play. And this is where the Hack Thompsons and all the other bottom feeding attention whores will start spewing their drivel. They yell, get politicians to listen, and we get our games banned. Don't dis people for hoping that the long term consequences won't get taken out on them.
 

cliftonite

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Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: Mill
I wonder if Colleges will start having those rapid notification systems? They have them at the High Schools here so they can notify parents of closures, accidents, bad weather, or emgergencies. Some of the districts here have 20K+ students, so I can imagine that's a lot of people to contact. They claim these systems can send over 20k text messages and make 20k phone calls in like 5 minutes

That would have saved a lot of lives.

I'm still confused at why one person getting killed in the morning should lead to closing down a school? WTF? Somone got shot in my dorms at school. It didn't affect the running of the school at all. Obviously once the mass shootings started, that was a big deal, but one murder in the morning isn't.


If the shooter hasnt been caught it would be a simple measure to possibly prevent further bloodshed.
 

TallBill

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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: TallBill
It definitely could have saved some lives today.

That is completely baseless. There is no way for anyone to know if that is true or not until all of the facts are out, which is why all of these arguments should be taken out of this thread.

KT

Open up your dictionary and look up the definition of the word "could". I made a simple one line post about my gut reaction to the situation.
 

gwrober

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Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Okay TallBill, we get it, you're a badass, a body or two isn't going to scare you away from lectures. Neato Cheeto.

You've never been anywhere in your entire life that someone has been killed within 5 minutes of you? Your first reaction was to barricade yourself in your house???

On a side note, I went to class on september 11th after watching both towers fall from accross the river in Newark.

Actually, yes - when someone is taken down around here, we reassess our situation/plans, etc - if someone is shot at the mall we were about to go to, we don't go until it's cleared up. It's common sense. Sure I can say I'm a bad a$$ and not afraid, or I carry, or I have a big pair, whatever. It's stupid to go where the killer is on the basis of "why not"....

You're not going to do anything - You're not going to make the situation better by being there. I don't care what you did in the past or anything. If you're not there when it goes down, and not prepared when it goes down, the rest is speculative.
 
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